NBA Live 14 Screenshots - Kyrie Irving Facial Scan Renders

[youvalss]

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So did EA. Hence the original post: Why is everyone up in arms over EA not releasing anything yet, but 2k gets a free pass?

Curiosity. It's human.

[Ajknowsit]

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First off let's get back on topic, and WOW those images look well like the real deal. And second to the guy's asking why the one on the right looks better than the one on the left, well click the link and read.

The one the right is an early go at it and the one on the left is the latest in game go at it. I won't believe it till I see it in motion on the court, but WOW if it looks like that.

[24ct]

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EA has never had a problem with their graphics. Those textures look incredible compared to the competition.

If EA gets player movement/control/motion correct this time, I'll be purchasing 2 hoops games. The gameplay is the only thing stoping EA from competiting. If players don't move like robots this game should be good for next gen sports.

[iverson_2k]

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Well I know of at least two people who played the demo at E3 and they said the game looks nothing like De'Andre Jordan CGI trailer they showed. They said the graphics would make you do a double take. Also, they said the gameplay is extremely smooth. However, this was the same demo where they show Kyrie just dribbling the ball behind Scott O'Brien while Mike Conley interviewed him. Not sure how it will play when its 5 vs. 5. But the game seems to be moving in the right direction.

[Da_Czar]

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EA has never had a problem with their graphics.

I think the claymation of live 08 and 09 and the bad player models and over shine of live 10 would disagree with you. Their best looking gen 3 games were also the worst in animation with live 06 and 07.

The screen shots look dope. If you notice there is a different haircut or at least different shapeup between the two pics. Since they are talking about updating accessories and haircuts maybe they were showing how minimal the differences can be ? IDK all I know is it looks good.

Also looking forward to EA's take on menus' It may seem small but I have always loved what they do with their logos in their menu's etc. Just having a fresh take on things means I'm getting live no matter what. Just to see what's new and fresh.

[jtdribbles25]

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To say NBA Live needs to show footage right now is asinine in my eyes. If they have something to "wow" us with, if it were released right now.. it would wow us all until September. By the time 2k releases something, then the "wow" factor will be several weeks old, and they've lost momentum.

There's nothing to gain for them releasing anything right now. These renders are magnificent. I'm lookng forward to seeing what they bring to the table this year.

Neither 2k nor Live have brought anything substantial to the table for next gen consoles. So we wait it out. Live isn't competing with the current gen 2k, so no reason to jump the gun and let their info sit there and get stale.

But for those of you who say they have something to prove and need to release info now to gain those people who don't know Live, or who are on the fence... is it really going to sway you if it's released now vs a bombardment of information closer to release?

No, not in my eyes at least. To each their own though.

Asinine is unnecessarily harsh. As you said to each his own. To say there is nothing to gain is again your sole opinion. With the failings of the previous two releases they need to gain my willingness to embrace the product.?

2k doesn't need to do this because of the track record. Live could have released some footage without "flooding" us with it. At present time I have only marginal thoughts that say this will be remotely competitive. They could have certainly created some positive buzz and momentum with some legitimate footage.

Would it matter now vs closer to release. Sure. Right now I'm planning on the games I will buy at launch and have actually pres ordered a couple. Live is not on my list to purchase. However some footage might have an impact. It doesn't have to get stale. Just give us somethin!

[BiggD]

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I've seen this movie before and I don't like the way it ends :-(

[nick_sr]

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So did EA. Hence the original post: Why is everyone up in arms over EA not releasing anything yet, but 2k gets a free pass?

another great post!

[WTF]

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Asinine is unnecessarily harsh. As you said to each his own. To say there is nothing to gain is again your sole opinion. With the failings of the previous two releases they need to gain my willingness to embrace the product.?

2k doesn't need to do this because of the track record. Live could have released some footage without "flooding" us with it. At present time I have only marginal thoughts that say this will be remotely competitive. They could have certainly created some positive buzz and momentum with some legitimate footage.

Would it matter now vs closer to release. Sure. Right now I'm planning on the games I will buy at launch and have actually pres ordered a couple. Live is not on my list to purchase. However some footage might have an impact. It doesn't have to get stale. Just give us somethin!

I said asinine in my eyes. I didn't say "it's asinine". That's a harsh statement. That's judging everyone else's opinion. I'm saying that in my opinion, they have nothing to gain. You say you won't buy it even if they come out 1 week before release and show you a game that is a great simulation? Do they need to go forth and show their cards just because? I don't think so. You do.

Regardless, whenever they release info, I'll be here to watch it. If it warrants a purchase based on when they release the information, I'll buy it. It's as easy as that.

If they release information today that says "purchase me", it doesn't increase my desire to buy it. To be honest, my excitement would probably be curtailed by seeing some 2k information a little closer to time.

I want 2 basketball games to provide a good experience.

2k hasn't showed anything on next gen either. So basing your decision to purchase on next gen, based on their last gen performance I think is nearly equally as tough, unless they say the gameplay is a port. Yes they've released some good games, but then again, so had Live04 & 05 on xbox/ps2 prior to the 360 release of the new engine, and we all saw how that worked out for them.

Asinine in my eyes, I've been down this road before, I don't need fancy videos 2 months before release, show me some good information closer to release, and I'm good.

[younggoku]

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So did EA. Hence the original post: Why is everyone up in arms over EA not releasing anything yet, but 2k gets a free pass?

Why do people keep asking stuff like this? Of course people are gonna be more weary of a company who have had so many problems to the point of having to skip three game cycles. EA has way more to prove.

[Skopin]

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Why do people keep asking stuff like this? Of course people are gonna be more weary of a company who have had so many problems to the point of having to skip three game cycles. EA has way more to prove.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be wary. But they have stated that we will see footage before the end of summer. It's not the end of summer yet, and people are still speculating and writing it off. It's a new team, a new set of consoles that aren't even out yet, and we haven't seen any next-gen footage from the other side either. Madden went from Madden '05 on the XBox/PS2 to the disappointment of Madden '06 on the 360. What's to stop NBA 2k14 on the PS4/XBO from being just like that?

I'm simply asking: Why the double-standard?

[24ct]

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I think the claymation of live 08 and 09 and the bad player models and over shine of live 10 would disagree with you. Their best looking gen 3 games were also the worst in animation with live 06 and 07.

The screen shots look dope. If you notice there is a different haircut or at least different shapeup between the two pics. Since they are talking about updating accessories and haircuts maybe they were showing how minimal the differences can be ? IDK all I know is it looks good.

Also looking forward to EA's take on menus' It may seem small but I have always loved what they do with their logos in their menu's etc. Just having a fresh take on things means I'm getting live no matter what. Just to see what's new and fresh.

Good point.

I really was generalizing all EA games. Most of their games LOOK REALLY good. They don't always play as good as they look, but since next gen, I've been a fan of EA graphics over the basketball competion. Some versions were worse, but overall I'll give the PS3/360 graphics nod to EA. You're right about the animation of Live, but 2k graphics have a wierd comic book/cartoonish feel to them.

Combine 2K animation with EA textures and you'd have the perfect look and feel of basketball.

[younggoku]

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I'm not saying that people shouldn't be wary. But they have stated that we will see footage before the end of summer. It's not the end of summer yet, and people are still speculating and writing it off. It's a new team, a new set of consoles that aren't even out yet, and we haven't seen any next-gen footage from the other side either. Madden went from Madden '05 on the XBox/PS2 to the disappointment of Madden '06 on the 360. What's to stop NBA 2k14 on the PS4/XBO from being just like that?

I'm simply asking: Why the double-standard?

It's really not that hard to understand, it's easier to trust someone who has put out a solid product year after year as opposed to someone who has been known to struggle and had to skip years due to having an unfinished product. And that's really a big leap to think because madden turned into such a disappointment on completely different consoles that somehow 2k will make the same mistake.

Especially seeing as how 2k released a gameplay vid of ingame pre alpha footage months back that people were raving about something that madden didn't do. Not to mention how devs are raving about how easy these new consoles are to develop for.

[Sundown]

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What about 2k's next gen info and realtime 5vs5. It's sickening how biased os is to 2k.

Is 5vs5 really going to change anyone's biased opinions? 90% of us have already made our decision on games that aren't even out yet and i doubt 5vs5 will change that.

Can't wait for all the nit picking and hate when they do release gameplay.

The only bias for 2k is because we already know 2k's 5v5 will be solid at the minimum. It's been the best basketball game year to year for the last decade and the only year it may have been tied 2k's Mike Wang was at the helm of Live.

So worst case, next gen 2k will be a very good title enhanced with next gen graphics.

Live's worst case could be pretty bad. It's best case probably won't rival 2K's worst case this year but will be something to build on going forward.

Anyway, face scanning looks great. The models look a little plasticky compared to 2k but might also have more detail. What we need to see are the bodies, and so far the previews aren't impressive. Deandre Jordan doesn't look like Deandre Jordan. It looks like the actual dismembered head of Deandre Jordan sewed onto a sock puppet.

[k1lo5]

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The only bias for 2k is because we already know 2k's 5v5 will be solid at the minimum. It's been the best basketball game year to year for the last decade and the only year it may have been tied 2k's Mike Wang was at the helm of Live.

So worst case, next gen 2k will be a very good title enhanced with next gen graphics.

Live's worst case could be pretty bad. It's best case probably won't rival 2K's worst case this year but will be something to build on going forward.

Anyway, face scanning looks great. The models look a little plasticky compared to 2k but might also have more detail. What we need to see are the bodies, and so far the previews aren't impressive. It looks like real people's heads stuck on a sock puppet.

Agree with you Sundown. Competition between Live and 2k will only benefit us the consumers. Let's hope Live comes out and is good.