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  • stillfeelme
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 2407

    #61
    Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

    After listening to this I am a little more optimistic about Live long term than I was before. Not impressed enough to pre-order without gameplay. I think they are two-three years from probably being a competitor to 2K if nothing goes wrong. As long as the "suits" at EA don't place unrealistic sales numbers with this game and let them keep building they will be alright.

    Expectations:

    • I am expecting them to nail the signature dribbling aspect of the game. They have talked about it too much to not nail this.
    • Attention to accessory detail, sneakers etc.
    • I am expecting the models to be average or sub par and probably the same for animations not involving dribbling or signature shots. I think some of the animations will take away from the game and be the game weak points
    • Online to be seamless and interface and menus to be nice.
    • Synergy input to make most of the gameplay resemble real NBA play.
    • Controls to be ok but I didn't really like the sound of using the face buttons to shoot but I will reserve judgement later.
    • Sound and atmosphere to be very well
    • Modes to be ok but probably less than what we are used to.

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    • donp1981
      Rookie
      • Aug 2013
      • 34

      #62
      Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
      Peyton Manning can speak about mistakes after scoring 51 points because he's earned the right to and has been to the top before.

      He has earned the right to be called "a great one".

      Let's keep things in perspective.

      Just saying...
      I agree and I'm not giving nba live that type of credit. When Scott said he wasn't satisfied dude made it sound like it was a bad thing for someone to not be satisfied with their current results but looking to improve in the future. That's all.

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      • King_B_Mack
        All Star
        • Jan 2009
        • 24450

        #63
        Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

        Originally posted by stillfeelme
        After listening to this I am a little more optimistic about Live long term than I was before. Not impressed enough to pre-order without gameplay. I think they are two-three years from probably being a competitor to 2K if nothing goes wrong. As long as the "suits" at EA don't place unrealistic sales numbers with this game and let them keep building they will be alright.

        Expectations:

        • I am expecting them to nail the signature dribbling aspect of the game. They have talked about it too much to not nail this.
        • Attention to accessory detail, sneakers etc.
        • I am expecting the models to be average or sub par and probably the same for animations not involving dribbling or signature shots. I think some of the animations will take away from the game and be the game weak points
        • Online to be seamless and interface and menus to be nice.
        • Synergy input to make most of the gameplay resemble real NBA play.
        • Controls to be ok but I didn't really like the sound of using the face buttons to shoot but I will reserve judgement later.
        • Sound and atmosphere to be very well
        • Modes to be ok but probably less than what we are used to.
        That's pretty terrible logic man. All that was talked about for Elite was dribbling and your skills dictating shot success and you just need to feel it for yourself and when it was all said and done it felt like ****.

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        • krazyboy225
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1020

          #64
          Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          That's pretty terrible logic man. All that was talked about for Elite was dribbling and your skills dictating shot success and you just need to feel it for yourself and when it was all said and done it felt like ****.
          Actually hes on the right track, they've been touting not only the dribbling controls this year but also how good it will supposedly look, including all these new animations that they are implementing.. so yea hes right.. there is no excuse not to nail the dribbling aspect of the game.. whether they do or not.. that remains to be seen.
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          • joe_lmc
            Just started!
            • Oct 2013
            • 1

            #65
            I SAY THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT: "YOU GOT TO BE LITERALLY ******** IF YOU THINK NBA 2K14 LOOKS BETTER THAN NBA LIVE 14 PERIOD & THEIR TRAILORS AND SCREEN SHOTS. AND IM NOT SPEAKING TO THE/NO DISABLED WHEN I SAY ******** SO NO DISRESPECT AT ALL BUT C'MON BEING IN-DENIAL NBA 2K FANS(WHO WERE NBA LIVE FANS FIRST JUST UP UNTIL NBA LIVE 10 AND YOU FELT YOU WERE FORCED TO SWITCH SO THAT YOU CAN STILL PLAY A BASKETBALL GAME BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH NOW, YALL KNOW NBA 2K WILL NEVER COME CLOSE TO BEING BETTER THAN NBA LIVE. AND ANOTHER THING YOU NOTICE IS HOW QUIET NBA 2K IS THIS YEAR NOW THAT THEY HAVE COMPETITION THIS YEAR (& 2K ALREADY HAVE A GAME RELEASE AND THEY STILL NERVOUS ABOUT HOW NBA LIVE GONE SHUT THEM DOWN.THE ONLY THING EA SPORTS NEED TO DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MOMENT RIGHT HERE BY RELEASING TONS OF NEW INFO,GAME-PLAY,& MORE TRAILORS. ALSO NBA 2K14 IS DANG NEAR IDENTICAL TO NBA 2K13 ESPECIALLY THE GRAPHICS(NEARLY NO CHANGES WHAT SO EVER). NOW THIS COMPETITION THING IS ALL FUN & GAME PEOPLE SO DON'T TAKE IT TO THE HEART BUT EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT I SAID WAS ALL ABSOLUTELY TRUE & MOST(MOST!!) OF YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY DEEP DOWN. #Honesty #StayBLESSED

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            • stillfeelme
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 2407

              #66
              Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              That's pretty terrible logic man. All that was talked about for Elite was dribbling and your skills dictating shot success and you just need to feel it for yourself and when it was all said and done it felt like ****.
              The Kyrie dribbling in 2K14 is nothing like they were touting in Elite 11. What part of my post is terrible logic? I think they will get the dribbling down and it will most likely be the highlight of the game. What have they talked about the most? Bounce Tek, Bounce Tek and more Bounce Tek. All the people that played with the dribbling demo seemed to like it and came away impressed. It isn't hard to tell that they focused on this aspect of the game. They motion captured the guy with arguably the best handles in the league and appear to have more signatures of other players TBD.

              What they talked about in Elite doesn't mean much to me now because they have a whole new regime in 14. Elite was bad, real bad Michael Jackson. Elite was bad to the point where I don't think the Dev's knew how bad it was while making it, maybe they did but whatever I don't know. I actually think Scott O'Gallagher and the new producers are actually switching the thinking for basketball made by EA. Is it EA lol yeah but they are coming from a different stance this time rock bottom, build the foundation and add on.

              The stick skills is a whole different topic which I didn't like in Elite and you noticed there is no stick skills mentioned in 14. Left sticks is moving, right sticks is dribbling and shooting is on the face button. There is some modifiers on the triggers that enable some signature stuff as well. Also to make this clear I had no intentions of getting Elite 11 but I wish I downloaded it now.

              I say all of this but the dribbling means nothing to me if the gameplay isn't up to par realistic. I don't know what your standards are but my standards are pretty high. I am not sure they can meet my standards which is why I say they are 2-3 years from being a competitor IMO if EA doesn't screw it up.

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              • Boilerbuzz
                D* B**rs!
                • Jul 2002
                • 5154

                #67
                Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                Originally posted by Jay Jay
                Real time physics was the new engine son.
                You have no clue. Just stop. Elite was the Live engine what some new systems bolted on. Just because you read too much into marketing hype, doesn't make it fact.

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                • TUSS11
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1483

                  #68
                  Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                  Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                  That's pretty terrible logic man. All that was talked about for Elite was dribbling and your skills dictating shot success and you just need to feel it for yourself and when it was all said and done it felt like ****.
                  Chill. Those are his expectations. I swear some of y'all come in here looking to shoot down anything that resembles optimism. It's like y'all have a seizure when anyone sounds the slightest bit hopeful.

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                  • frankwyte81
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 95

                    #69
                    Originally posted by joe_lmc
                    I SAY THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT: "YOU GOT TO BE LITERALLY ******** IF YOU THINK NBA 2K14 LOOKS BETTER THAN NBA LIVE 14 PERIOD & THEIR TRAILORS AND SCREEN SHOTS. AND IM NOT SPEAKING TO THE/NO DISABLED WHEN I SAY ******** SO NO DISRESPECT AT ALL BUT C'MON BEING IN-DENIAL NBA 2K FANS(WHO WERE NBA LIVE FANS FIRST JUST UP UNTIL NBA LIVE 10 AND YOU FELT YOU WERE FORCED TO SWITCH SO THAT YOU CAN STILL PLAY A BASKETBALL GAME BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH NOW, YALL KNOW NBA 2K WILL NEVER COME CLOSE TO BEING BETTER THAN NBA LIVE. AND ANOTHER THING YOU NOTICE IS HOW QUIET NBA 2K IS THIS YEAR NOW THAT THEY HAVE COMPETITION THIS YEAR (& 2K ALREADY HAVE A GAME RELEASE AND THEY STILL NERVOUS ABOUT HOW NBA LIVE GONE SHUT THEM DOWN.THE ONLY THING EA SPORTS NEED TO DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MOMENT RIGHT HERE BY RELEASING TONS OF NEW INFO,GAME-PLAY,& MORE TRAILORS. ALSO NBA 2K14 IS DANG NEAR IDENTICAL TO NBA 2K13 ESPECIALLY THE GRAPHICS(NEARLY NO CHANGES WHAT SO EVER). NOW THIS COMPETITION THING IS ALL FUN & GAME PEOPLE SO DON'T TAKE IT TO THE HEART BUT EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT I SAID WAS ALL ABSOLUTELY TRUE & MOST(MOST!!) OF YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY DEEP DOWN. #Honesty #StayBLESSED
                    Do you even know what a sentence is? You put two periods and four commas in your 880 word ALL-CAPPED run-on sentence. C'mon son. Nobody can read that crap, it literally made my head hurt.
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                    • AusBot
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 36

                      #70
                      Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                      Originally posted by frankwyte81
                      Do you even know what a sentence is? You put two periods and four commas in your 880 word ALL-CAPPED run-on sentence. C'mon son. Nobody can read that crap, it literally made my head hurt.
                      He also never closed his quotation which pisses me off.

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                      • King_B_Mack
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #71
                        Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                        Originally posted by TUSS11
                        Chill. Those are his expectations. I swear some of y'all come in here looking to shoot down anything that resembles optimism. It's like y'all have a seizure when anyone sounds the slightest bit hopeful.
                        Man, go somewhere with this. I'm not worried about shooting down his optimism. I'm just pointing out that the logic of saying because they talked about something over and over doesn't mean it's going to be perfect which is what he's said a few times in the Live forums. It's ridiculous logic.

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                        • MarkWilliam
                          72-10
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 2325

                          #72
                          Hearing him talk about team authentic defences was a good listen......

                          Thibs and the way the Bulls side screen and rolls.....if I see the Bulls playing ice defense on pick and roll and see the screen defender zoning low to take away the driving lane I will LOSE MY MIND! Haha...... as a Bulls user I would just LOVE to have the ability to play Bulls defense.....! Part of me thinks this might actually be possible with next gen capabilities and the in depth talk about how much focus was put into the screen and roll aspect of the game......

                          Also enjoyed hearing him talk about the rim and net physics..... sounds like they actually put a small amount of focus on making this good (FINALLY) in a Live game..... hopefully their idea of good rim/net physics is the right idea.......

                          DYING to see this stuff in action!
                          Last edited by MarkWilliam; 10-15-2013, 08:47 AM.

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                          • iverson_2k
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 127

                            #73
                            Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                            After hearing this podcast I'm actually excited more for this game and have high hopes. I think bringing in someone who has played professional basketball is a great move especially since he's a full time employee and not just some nba star who comes in for a few months and shares their thoughts. Also, when Scott said that he is a sim head just like everyone on these forums that made me more comfortable hearing what he had to say. He wants the game to be just as bad as we do. Obviously they can't put everything in the game this year, but he even said this is the foundation which they are going to build on for the future. He also said that he gets tons of emails asking for the gameplay footage, he says that he hears you guys and to just be patient. They are going to release it when the game is 100% to their liking. He confirmed that the game is dropping so no one should be worried, even 2k has only released a 5 sec trailer. When he said that he was playing the Thunder and then in the 2nd half the thunder started speeding up the tempo and feeding Durant that got me super hype, especially if the AI is as smart as they say they are. Finally, when he said that he put a smaller guard on Kobe and Kobe just started dominating that's the type of thing I want to see in the game. Oh yea, he said the ball and rim are completely physics based so he are going to get some great bounces. Cant wait till Nov 19!!!!

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                            • stillfeelme
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2407

                              #74
                              Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              Man, go somewhere with this. I'm not worried about shooting down his optimism. I'm just pointing out that the logic of saying because they talked about something over and over doesn't mean it's going to be perfect which is what he's said a few times in the Live forums. It's ridiculous logic.

                              Where is the terrible logic? Look at your post you responded to my post with statements that were not in my post talking about stick skills. I have seen the videos of the Bounce tek in action they have talked about this feature probably more than anything else in the game and they have shown this more than anything else. People who played with the Bounce tek demo came away impressed with it. They motion captured multiple NBA guards. I stand by what I said In my opinion this will be the best part of their game. So it isn't just what they talked about it is what they actually shown and what they talked about and others who have played with it.


                              Bounce Tek is to NBA Live as blades of grass is to Madden. This is disappointing if you are a football fan though. Just an FYI I joined this site at the time Elite was coming out so I know exactly what the Dev's were spewing at that time.

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #75
                                Re: Operation Sports - Press Row Podcast: NBA Live 14 Gameplay with Scott O’Gallagher

                                Originally posted by stillfeelme
                                Where is the terrible logic? Look at your post you responded to my post with statements that were not in my post talking about stick skills. I have seen the videos of the Bounce tek in action they have talked about this feature probably more than anything else in the game and they have shown this more than anything else. People who played with the Bounce tek demo came away impressed with it. They motion captured multiple NBA guards. I stand by what I said In my opinion this will be the best part of their game. So it isn't just what they talked about it is what they actually shown and what they talked about and others who have played with it.


                                Bounce Tek is to NBA Live as blades of grass is to Madden. This is disappointing if you are a football fan though. Just an FYI I joined this site at the time Elite was coming out so I know exactly what the Dev's were spewing at that time.
                                Believe me man, I know what you said, I read it already, no need to read it again. I got no issue with your opinions and expectations. As I said, I was simply pointing out that it was terrible logic to suggest that because they've talked about something over and over means they'll nail it.

                                Originally posted by stillfeelme
                                • I am expecting them to nail the signature dribbling aspect of the game. They have talked about it too much to not nail this.
                                This is what you said. Seeing it in action, other people playing it and being impressed with it has nothing to do with the statement that "they have talked about it too much to not nail this." Talking about something repeatedly doesn't make it a working feature automatically like you were implying. Hell 2K wouldn't shut up about their ******* Insider and we see how that worked out.

                                That was really all I was pointing out. For the most part I agreed with your post, I just thought that was poor logic shown and voiced it.

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