NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

**The 24th Letter** · 11-21-2013, 11:28 AM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by apollooff320

don't know because I was watching the Houston game that was DVRed while looking at the video. All I saw was him doing was playing Roy Hibbert like he was a PG and running around with other players how they are not suppose to be used. He doesn't know the sport and probably like most of the reviewers cared about pretty graphics and canned animations. If your a big NBA fan you'll notice the game isn't all that bad by playing the demo. No it's not worth full price but the game isn't horrible either. EA has something here and all they need to do is keep improving and they will be back.

I knew the "pretty graphics" schtick was coming...and canned animations? If reviewers cared that much about canned animations this game wouldn't be getting 4,5's and 6's, because it sure has a lot them...

The fact that he was successfully able to run around with Hibbert as a PG is another problem in itself..

As I said, he didn't say anything that wasn't true...I'd like to see someone refute one of their actual points instead of trying to paint them as biased...I'm a huge NBA fan, and have been playing this game since shortly after the PS4 was released and now own the game as the buyer didn't want it..

I said myself that IGN over did it with their review..but besides the insults, they weren't that far from the truth...it's not a good basketball game...

**GisherJohn24** · 11-21-2013, 11:33 AM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

It has sent me fun moments but the game feels about 50% done to me. Rebounding is awful. Guys like hibbert under the rim watching the ball hit the floor and waiting for the defense to snatch it up.

And really? No game sliders??? Next gen this is not

**El_Poopador** · 11-21-2013, 11:35 AM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by The 24th Letter

I knew the "pretty graphics" schtick was coming...and canned animations? If reviewers cared that much about canned animations this game wouldn't be getting 4,5's and 6's, because it sure has a lot them...

The fact that he was successfully able to run around with Hibbert as a PG is another problem in itself..

As I said, he didn't say anything that wasn't true...I'd like to see someone refute one of their actual points instead of trying to paint them as biased...I'm a huge NBA fan, and have been playing this game since shortly after the PS4 was released and now own the game as the buyer didn't want it..

I said myself that IGN over did it with their review..but besides the insults, they weren't that far from the truth...it's not a good basketball game...

i posted igns gameplay video and it looks exactly the opposite of what their review states in terms of gameplay. they were down 9-2 because they were trying to charge the paint and take contested jumpers. there were only 3 blocks even with them taking bad shots and only one block up to the point where they said "there have already been several blocked shots". so i think apollooff320 was pretty accurate when saying that a lot of people care more about pretty graphics than anything else. as soon as you see that its not graphically amazing you write it off and it makes everything else seem substandard. i think that if this game looked as good as 2k does from a visual standpoint the scores would be much much better.

**yungflo** · 11-21-2013, 11:53 AM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by El_Poopador

the guy who reviewed the game isn't even playing. its his cowroker..and plus, I think he's doing that to illustrate a point. he was playing 2k earlier and wasn't pounding it in..

**idlehands** · 11-21-2013, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by El_Poopador

i posted igns gameplay video and it looks exactly the opposite of what their review states in terms of gameplay. they were down 9-2 because they were trying to charge the paint and take contested jumpers. there were only 3 blocks even with them taking bad shots and only one block up to the point where they said "there have already been several blocked shots". so i think apollooff320 was pretty accurate when saying that a lot of people care more about pretty graphics than anything else. as soon as you see that its not graphically amazing you write it off and it makes everything else seem substandard. i think that if this game looked as good as 2k does from a visual standpoint the scores would be much much better.

I've been sitting back and reading all these responses and comments like this is one of the reasons that game developers never take fans seriously. They can release a game that can look like crap and have terrible animations and staunch gameplay, yet someone will come yelling to their defense that no one plays the game right and that is the problem. This game could look gorgeous but if the gameplay is still like this, than it will get reviews like Ryse Son of Rome is getting: It's a pretty game with awful gameplay. Stop with the excuses and stop with the "oh if this was 2K" crap. If 2K released a game like this, there would be Live fans drooling over the chance to mock and destroy the game.

Stop making excuses for developers who don't care. Make them own up to their mistakes and create a better product. I love competitions in the game market. I demand better from Live. I WANT BETTER FROM LIVE. I want to fight over which game I should get. That was the beauty. Madden was at it's best when it had competition coming from all fronts not just 2K (Gameday 99 and others).

Now back to my lurking ways......

**The 24th Letter** · 11-21-2013, 12:05 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by El_Poopador

i posted igns gameplay video and it looks exactly the opposite of what their review states in terms of gameplay. they were down 9-2 because they were trying to charge the paint and take contested jumpers. there were only 3 blocks even with them taking bad shots and only one block up to the point where they said "there have already been several blocked shots". so i think apollooff320 was pretty accurate when saying that a lot of people care more about pretty graphics than anything else. as soon as you see that its not graphically amazing you write it off and it makes everything else seem substandard. i think that if this game looked as good as 2k does from a visual standpoint the scores would be much much better.

This game isn't a gem that is a graphical update away from being a classic...it just isn't...you guys seem hell bent on making it out it out to be, but that's not the case...there are CORE issues with this game....despite what we saw in the video the reviewer was 100% right about blocking being wonky, there's absolutely no ball tracking in the game by paint protecters.

I want an NBA Live 15 man, ignoring these issues doesn't help anyone...

**dtq** · 11-21-2013, 12:09 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by idlehands

I've been sitting back and reading all these responses and comments like this is one of the reasons that game developers never take fans seriously. They can release a game that can look like crap and have terrible animations and staunch gameplay, yet someone will come yelling to their defense that no one plays the game right and that is the problem. This game could look gorgeous but if the gameplay is still like this, than it will get reviews like Ryse Son of Rome is getting: It's a pretty game with awful gameplay. Stop with the excuses and stop with the "oh if this was 2K" crap. If 2K released a game like this, there would be Live fans drooling over the chance to mock and destroy the game.

Stop making excuses for developers who don't care. Make them own up to their mistakes and create a better product. I love competitions in the game market. I demand better from Live. I WANT BETTER FROM LIVE. I want to fight over which game I should get. That was the beauty. Madden was at it's best when it had competition coming from all fronts not just 2K (Gameday 99 and others).

Now back to my lurking ways......

Well said. I'm a lurker like you and it's infuriating at times reading comments from the usual suspects. Some may be playing devil advocates but there are a selected few who I truly believe are guilty of astroturfing for EA as their posts displayed a total lack of objectivity.

**El_Poopador** · 11-21-2013, 12:10 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by The 24th Letter

This game isn't a gem that is a graphical update away from being a classic...it just isn't...you guys seem hell bent on making it out it out to be, but that's not the case...there are CORE issues with this game....despite what we saw in the video the reviewer was 100% right about blocking being wonky, there's absolutely no ball tracking in the game by paint protecters.

I want an NBA Live 15 man, ignoring these issues doesn't help anyone...

wait what? the reviewers said there were too many blocks. how are there too many blocks if theres no ball tracking?

**El_Poopador** · 11-21-2013, 12:15 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by yungflo

the guy who reviewed the game isn't even playing. its his cowroker..and plus, I think he's doing that to illustrate a point. he was playing 2k earlier and wasn't pounding it in..

he was definitely getting inside more in the 2k gameplay. he had 2 points in the live gameplay and it wasnt even from the paint. it was from an open jumper. to me that says that you CANT just charge the paint like he said you can. if it was so easy it shouldnt matter who plays it everyone should just be able to score at will right? look im not saying the game is great by any means. im saying that the reviewers are incompetent when it comes to playing the game and that makes for an invalid review. my whole point is dont knock it until you learn how to play it. from the videos i saw with people who tried to play realistically the game looked like a decent sim game. players who tried to run and gun without playing smart did horrible in the game.

**The 24th Letter** · 11-21-2013, 12:23 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by El_Poopador

wait what? the reviewers said there were too many blocks. how are there too many blocks if theres no ball tracking?

Right, blocks happen...but there are rarely cases (I haven't seen any) where your timing the offense players move and swatting the ball out.of the air ....I don't know if you've played NBA 2k12, but it's very similar...but worse..

It's almost like blocks are overdone because other than that, there isn't reliable interior defense...

**King_B_Mack** · 11-21-2013, 12:29 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by The 24th Letter

This game isn't a gem that is a graphical update away from being a classic...it just isn't...you guys seem hell bent on making it out it out to be, but that's not the case...there are CORE issues with this game....despite what we saw in the video the reviewer was 100% right about blocking being wonky, there's absolutely no ball tracking in the game by paint protecters.

I want an NBA Live 15 man, ignoring these issues doesn't help anyone...

Man Two-Four stop it. You knew what this was back when Live 13 got cancelled. Hell you knew what this was when Elite got cancelled. Honestly before that too. There was dudes lined up to run in front of the firing squad to keep a bullet from hitting Live/EA knowing full damn well they were looking at trash. We all knew that when the day came that EA FINALLY pushed a basketball game out that door there was going to be that group that ate it right up no matter how it actually was. It could of been a game that was literally Kyrie Irving taking a **** from start to finish and there would be that group that would find some way to spin it into a positive. "It's a little rough around the edges, but if you were a real big basketball fan like I am, you'd know that players have to go to the bathroom at some point." "This plays a real solid, fundamental bowel movement. He even reaches for TP, the other game doesn't have that."

The only thing we can do is hope that EA is listening to all the other feedback and making the proper changes. Thing is, they haven't done that for damn near a decade worth of basketball games. I really don't expect them to start now.

**yungflo** · 11-21-2013, 12:30 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by idlehands

I've been sitting back and reading all these responses and comments like this is one of the reasons that game developers never take fans seriously. They can release a game that can look like crap and have terrible animations and staunch gameplay, yet someone will come yelling to their defense that no one plays the game right and that is the problem. This game could look gorgeous but if the gameplay is still like this, than it will get reviews like Ryse Son of Rome is getting: It's a pretty game with awful gameplay. Stop with the excuses and stop with the "oh if this was 2K" crap. If 2K released a game like this, there would be Live fans drooling over the chance to mock and destroy the game.

Stop making excuses for developers who don't care. Make them own up to their mistakes and create a better product. I love competitions in the game market. I demand better from Live. I WANT BETTER FROM LIVE. I want to fight over which game I should get. That was the beauty. Madden was at it's best when it had competition coming from all fronts not just 2K (Gameday 99 and others).

Now back to my lurking ways......

I don't get that either.

To say live is a good game is like saying, the bobcats are a good team, but they don't play good together. Lol whats the definition of a team?

Same thing can be applied to games.

That's simply a contradicting statement. How can people accept this game? I had my share of defense too, but after playing the game, its horrible! Devs wanted us to play the game instead of criticizing it when watching it. Well, it turned out, playing it was alot worse than watching it!

I won't say its 4/10 bad. There are some highlight moments, but 5.5-6/10 is warranted. I tried playing the demo a few times after my initial impression..Couldn't get through the first quarter.

I'm not going to put this on the devs entirely. It has to be company direction. Different studio and its still has traits from past lives. EAC makes terrific games. Tiburon is not known for good games...but still..

**yungflo** · 11-21-2013, 12:37 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by El_Poopador

he was definitely getting inside more in the 2k gameplay. he had 2 points in the live gameplay and it wasnt even from the paint. it was from an open jumper. to me that says that you CANT just charge the paint like he said you can. if it was so easy it shouldnt matter who plays it everyone should just be able to score at will right? look im not saying the game is great by any means. im saying that the reviewers are incompetent when it comes to playing the game and that makes for an invalid review. my whole point is dont knock it until you learn how to play it. from the videos i saw with people who tried to play realistically the game looked like a decent sim game. players who tried to run and gun without playing smart did horrible in the game.

I tried it and yet, I found his analysis to hold weight, but like I said, the reviewer wasn't playing the game..They were streaming 2k on the XBO on there, so someone find a stream of that. I bet he was playing alot better in 2k then he was in live.

**yungflo** · 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM

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I wish sony would take the plunge and develop an NBA game. Yes, I know they made nba:the life, but without the life, there would be no my player/rising career mode or a time release on jumpers.. the game was arcady but it was still fun.

I would like to see them take a more simulation approach. Seeing how they were the only video game to secure the tnt license...that'll be awesome to see in a video game again.

**Boilerbuzz** · 11-21-2013, 12:54 PM

Re: NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

Originally posted by apollooff320

don't know because I was watching the Houston game that was DVRed while looking at the video. All I saw was him doing was playing Roy Hibbert like he was a PG and running around with other players how they are not suppose to be used. He doesn't know the sport and probably like most of the reviewers cared about pretty graphics and canned animations. If your a big NBA fan you'll notice the game isn't all that bad by playing the demo. No it's not worth full price but the game isn't horrible either. EA has something here and all they need to do is keep improving and they will be back.

Wait. You weren't even paying attention!? Wow. First, it was a player versus player game and you don't know which player he was. He also was able to FINISH that play with an And-1. One of the points he was making was that the game doesn't reward players for playing realistically. Whether you agree with that or not, that was what he was saying.

But you not even bothering to pay actual attention to the review completely disqualifies your criticism.

NBA Live 14 Reviews From Around the Web

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