Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

[ngreatshark]

Meanwhile, the developers are on twitter telling people that the game is for "sim" gamers and that the people who gave it bad reviews don't know much about basketball.

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Yeah clearly we don't know what we are talking about, we just need to learn basketball and learn how to use there more sim than ever game mechanics

[allhailben7]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

Now they have no excuse for how bad the game is, which was atrocious by almost anybody's opinion... But they did not really have 3 years to develop the game. Sony only started giving out/selling development kits in the middle of last year (xbox, I don't know).

It's a bad game and there's no excuse, but don't say they had 3 years to work with the new technology.

[bspang2]

Can we get the same apology from the Madden 25 team as well???!!!!

[bspang2]

Sad.. Sean O'Brien is the new David Littman. He lied to all of us about gameplay before summer, and now they come out like its groundhog day, and guys.. excuse me "Struggle Live Apologists" are praising this..

You guys are the reason Live is in this state.. you settle and buy mediocrity, and now you are struggling to find aspects of the game to like to disguise the disbelief of the shattered pride you have. Some of you were lungs full of air, chest pumped out, holding the Live 14 flag baton, saying the other game is stale, yady yada and still are in denial seeing how bad this game is... UNBELIEVABLE..

On top of that you have Scott OG saying that he doesnt care about the low reviews from IGN initally, but then calls those guys "nerfhoops". I wonder what he thinks of Sean, being that hes apologizing for this game he oversaw? No offense to Sean O'Brien either about saying sorry, but this is just sad. now Andrew Wilson is apologizing too..

They're saying that player feedback is showing the game is hard to learn, but they have simplified controls.. so what the heck does that mean. especially for the Struggle Live Apologists screaming that Live has better control then the other game, etc..

This is damage control at its highest level

Anyone seen Dounte on the EA forums.. pray for that guy... & Sirs, Ced and a few others...

This is what happened to you guys.. guess who's EA, and who the Live fan is?

Finally someone says something besides me!!! Thank you for this.

[allhailben7]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

The biggest problem I have is--if he truly believes himself--why did they even have to sacrifice anything? They only used up 9 GB of space. WTF?

Seriously, it's not like it came down to "do I put in this or that," they didn't even use a 4th of the space! They could have gone for actual gameplay, a decent physics engine, 2k graphics, and anything else that basically 2k has.

Their problem is not that they sacrificed anything, it's that they took a minimalist approach.

[Sticks13]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

I'm sorry bro, but if some nefarious looking character comes walking towards you and you hand him your money before he says anything or shows you a gun or knife or something, it's not robbery. If you went out and spent your money on this game without a single millisecond of actual gameplay footage released from them, then it's on you.

Yea when I saw dudes saying they had preordered before even seeing the game I scratched my head in wonder.

[Sticks13]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

Meanwhile, the developers are on twitter telling people that the game is for "sim" gamers and that the people who gave it bad reviews don't know much about basketball.

I'm just wondering where those folks that were saying only "true ballers" could understand this game are, what a joke.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

Now they have no excuse for how bad the game is, which was atrocious by almost anybody's opinion... But they did not really have 3 years to develop the game. Sony only started giving out/selling development kits in the middle of last year (xbox, I don't know).

It's a bad game and there's no excuse, but don't say they had 3 years to work with the new technology.

To also clear the record, because I hear this a lot. When people say that, they aren't talking about this one specific game.

After Elite was cancelled the decision was made that they would sit out making an Elite/Live 12 and focus on coming back for 13. Instead of taking the time to work on 13 the entire time after Elite was cancelled they did pretty much nothing in 2011 until around October or November where the first thing they did then was waste time looking through the Elite code for things to keep from a cancelled effort. They didn't even put a full team together until around December of that year or January of 2012. They then proceeded to pull the same hide and seek stuff they pulled this year until the footage leaked out of that garbage between Miami/OKC and the fact that they were making a digital only game that was supposed to be a glorified beta test too. They lied then claiming that the code for Live 10 had been thrown out and they tried to pretend like the Elite code was trashed too. Fast forward to today and it's the same old song and dance. Only difference is the NBA probably put a boot in their *** that made them release this game. Dudes had the nerve to be in here throwing out those "*****" arguments when people were point out the red flags and similarities in approach that we've repeatedly seen from them.

So while no, they haven't been working on this particular game for four years, EA has had four full years to get its **** together on the basketball court and has done nothing with it.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

I have a question. How can they have a bounce tek demo at e3 to promote the game but not have a practice mode in the actually game? That demo at e3 impressed me. The graphics didn't even look bad. It also wasn't slowed down.

The actual game looks and plays horrible. How did they go from that e3 demo to total ****. Smh

In regards to the apology and improvements I'll have to see it to believe it.
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You must have romanticized what you saw. Because what it saw was pretty much consistent with what we got. The only thing missing was defenders getting in your way and you wanting to do more than just dribble.


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[bspang2]

Although we appreciate the apology from one team at EA sports (NBA LIVE) in many ways we all deserve an apology for almost all the EA sports Franchises. When I say we deserve an apology, I mean we deserve an apology for all the false advertisements and false promises we constantly receive each season. Yes, not everyone will be pleased and we will always find something to criticize. So I will leave the evaluation to the OS community.

Lets simply take a look at the EA Tiburon "Our Values" which is written on all the ways at EA and you all be the judge and tell me if the EA sports games meets these supposed core "Values" of EA sports:

1. BE BOLD: Go big, Take the right risks.
2. THINK CONSUMERS FIRST: Listen and respond, Deliver beyond their expectations, build lifetime customers.
3. CREATE QUALITY AND INNOVATION: Deliver products and services that surpass expectations, be relentless about improving quality.
4. ACT WITH INTEGRITY: be transparent
5. BE ACCOUNTABLE: Deliver on commitments.

Now these are just a few of EA's values and relate to game development. Now IMO when thinking of the EA sports franchises moving from old-generation to this next-gen system, EA sports air balled, fumbled, and got a yellow card on their sports games for the PS4 and Xbox ONE systems.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

Now they have no excuse for how bad the game is, which was atrocious by almost anybody's opinion... But they did not really have 3 years to develop the game. Sony only started giving out/selling development kits in the middle of last year (xbox, I don't know).

It's a bad game and there's no excuse, but don't say they had 3 years to work with the new technology.

This is no excuse. There is quite a bit of work that can be done without actual hardware. Any software company worth a damn is capable of making software independent of hardware as much as possible. It's called cross-platform development. And considering the hardware is an "off the shelf" architecture, even more could have been done. This REALLY is no excuse.

Guys, the thing that sticks out to me with this apology is that Wilson gave the same apology after Live 13 and Moore gave it after Elite 11. Also, any work they do on Live 14 hurts Live 15 as well. The 15 dev cycle is already cut into as it is for every sport title! Frankly, I think they need to minimize losses and Live 15 is up in the air. That's what this is all about.


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[yungflo]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

I like the part when he apologizes, then say we aren't playing the game right, instead of admitting, the game is broken...entirely. BounceTek ain't saving that. But Like my man OG, Obrien is keeping it dairyfree lol

[bubba4]

Hmmm. They hid the game until release, and now they're sorry they released it. They apologized 3 years ago for their basketball game. They obviously don't know how to make a basketball game. This is what all these apologies are all about.

[Jano]

Re: Sean O'Brien Issues Apology for NBA Live's Quality, Promises Improvements

I'm not in the camp that says EA shouldn't have released this game.

They needed to get a game out there it's been too long since their last game. At least this way if the big boys at EA wants to discontinue the series for good this time they've got more than enough reasons. No more cancellations to hide behind.. the sales and fan support will speak for themselves.

I think the apology letter was a great idea for sure. Though statements like this

We felt authentic gameplay, control and the connected experience would provide the best foundation for the future. As a result, game visuals and animation polish suffered.

Are a bit perplexing... isn't animation polish a part of authentic gameplay in a basketball simulation?

Anyways EA isn't going to be gaining many fans with letter's like this. I just hope that this letter is the start of improvement.

Just improve your game EA and take your lumps along the way like a champ and not a chump...

[Gramps91]

I really hope EA can deliver, until then, there's always 2k to go to, and EA if you buy the NBA license you have NO IDEA how pissed I will become.

With all that said, good luck, I honestly would like a solid game from both sides.