NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirmed

[SageInfinite]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

It sounds moreso like you have a problem with dev teams approach or mentality than the inclusion of sliders. I agree that sliders shouldn't let devs off the hook, but now that they've made there way into our games, they shouldn't be gone.

It's like a game not having a franchise or online mode. Once they've been in multiple games it becomes a standard. To have a release without one certainly deserves backlash. Especially with this dev since they haven't gotten much right in the past few years.

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

It sounds moreso like you have a problem with dev teams approach or mentality than the inclusion of sliders. I agree that sliders shouldn't let devs off the hook, but now that they've made there way into our games, they shouldn't be gone.

It's like a game not having a franchise or online mode. Once they've been in multiple games it becomes a standard. To have a release without one certainly deserves backlash. Especially with this dev since they haven't gotten much right in the past few years.

Exactly. Sliders should be for people that want to get a different experience not the best way a gamer can get a SIM experience that should be the developers job. The evidence suggest that sliders have become the latter.


As a gamer that prefers the most SIM experience as possible it doesn't bother me that this years title doesn't have any sliders. Only if EA can indeed deliver on all the promise of proper physics based on player attributes and synergy that ensure that said players play the way there real life counterparts plays. Again this is pretty ambitious for a company that has yet to come through. This is the gamble they are taking.


This franchise is trying to separate itself from it competition. I don't know if that means they are getting away from sliders or that sliders are just indeed at the bottom of their priority list. EA built the game up from scratch fairly recently, have shifted directions and are now playing catch-up. If this change can bring something fresh to the bball gaming genre while delivering on a great SIM on court product I have no problem supporting it.

[KyotoCarl]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

I think this is the fundamental difference on my stance from others. I see sliders as a crutch that developers use to give me an incomplete game, and they get away with it under the disguise of customization. There's no reason to have such statistical anomalies out the box on a game that focuses on being a SIM and that's well tuned.

This is just a difference of opinion.
For me, I think most people don't use sliders, they just play the game as it is.
When the devs decide how the game should play they base it on how a small sample of people play it, but when you have millions of people paying the gsme every day you are going to get different outcomes from what the devs anticipated.

That's why I think sliders should be in the game, so you can adjust the game to play the way you want too.

[StankonYa]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

Just said it in the other thread, but zero chance I purchase this game now with no sliders.

Can't force people to play the game a certain way. This isn't 1988 on the Nintendo.

I'm still going to try this game out, but yeah..no sliders is kind of a deal breaker.

It would most likely be a deal breaker for 2k15 also.

[StankonYa]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

Exactly. Sliders should be for people that want to get a different experience not the best way a gamer can get a SIM experience that should be the developers job. The evidence suggest that sliders have become the latter.


As a gamer that prefers the most SIM experience as possible it doesn't bother me that this years title doesn't have any sliders. Only if EA can indeed deliver on all the promise of proper physics based on player attributes and synergy that ensure that said players play the way there real life counterparts plays. Again this is pretty ambitious for a company that has yet to come through. This is the gamble they are taking.


This franchise is trying to separate itself from it competition. I don't know if that means they are getting away from sliders and that sliders are just indeed at the bottom of their priority list. EA built the game up from scratch fairly recently, have shifted directions and are now playing catch-up. If this change can bring something fresh to the bball gaming genre while delivering on a great SIM on court product I have no problem supporting it.

I agree, I just wish they had sliders.It may even be something they can patch in later down the road.

[youvalss]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

Not that it would fix the game to every person's likings and/or make it "sim" to one's taste, but I hope the game at least includes several different settings - not only level of difficulty.

[renewill27]

You can't edit rosters which sucks.

[Teddy_Long]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

we can't edit rosters, no sliders, what is ea trying to pull? i've been reading the same mess on the nhl section.

[Ermolli]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

To the ones who asked if EA has said before about the lack of sliders well yes they did in the NLSC's podcast with Sean O'Brien during mid August.

NBA Live 15: Podcast Interview with Sean O' Brien

Even Haval93 mentioned in a post there just in case someone missed it.

[bigsmallwood]

NO Sliders or the ability to edit a roster? SIGH This seems an awful like how they started last gen (PS3/360)......I cannot properly respect EA Sports for moves like this. There is no logical reason for SLiders or Roster editing not to be in the game....CURRENT GEN PS4/Xbox One Makes ZERO sense

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

we can't edit rosters, no sliders, what is ea trying to pull? i've been reading the same mess on the nhl section.

They had a list of priorities and apparently those things were at the bottom of the list. It's known that the Live series is behind and many aspect that gamers are use to having standard just didn't make the cut.

[Playmakers]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

Hey EA please take notes

LIST OF GAMEPLAY OPTIONS WE USED TO HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN THE GAMEPLAY LACKED REALISM OUT OF THE BOX ON LAST GEN CONSOLES WITH SYNERGY:

User Steal Ability:
User Interception Ability:
User Shot Block Ability:
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability:
User Offensive Rebounding:
User Defensive Rebounding:
User Fakeout Discipline:
User Short Range Shooting:
User Medium Range Shooting:
User Long Range Shooting:
User Dunk Percentage:
User Lay-up Percentage:
User Drop Step Effectiveness:
User Sink Or Swim Effectiveness:
User Defensive Post Strength:
User Shot Alter Ability:
User Fight Through Screen Ability:
User Hands in Post:
User Hands on Perimeter:

CPU Steal Ability:
CPU Interception Ability:
CPU Shot Block Ability:
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability:
CPU Dunk vs Layup Frequency:
CPU On Ball Physical Defense:
CPU Offensive Rebounding:
CPU Defensive Rebounding:
CPU Fakeout Discipline:
CPU Short Range Shooting:
CPU Medium Range Shooting:
CPU Long Range Shooting:
CPU Dunk Percentage:
CPU Lay-up Percentage:
CPU Drop Step Effectiveness:
CPU Help Side Defensive Efffectiveness:
CPU Sink Or Swim Effectiveness:
CPU Close Out Effectiveness:
CPU Defensive Post Strength:
CPU Shot Alter Ability:
CPU Fight Through Screen Ability:
CPU Pass Accuarcy:
CPU Hands in Post:
CPU Hands On Perimeter:


LIST OF GAMEPLAY OPTIONS WE'LL HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN THE GAME LACKS REALISM OUT OF THE BOX ON NEXT GEN CONSOLES WITH SYNERGY:

Difficulty Level
Game speed
QTR Length



Now of course if the AI is what you have hyped it up to be for the last 3 years then all this stuff (Sliders) becomes a moot point......

But if for some reason the AI/Synergy Engine doesn't render the desired results then this decision to not include USER CUSTOMIZED SLIDERS for a 2nd straight year could get ugly on these boards real quick.....

And if I was a betting man most of the traffic on these boards will come to a SNAIL CRAWL 1-2 months after the release of this game.

Then just like clockwork you'll have someone come on here start up thread asking questions from the community as to what we'd like to see in the game NEXT YEAR all over again and there will be hundreds of posters requesting once again SLIDERS.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

To the ones who asked if EA has said before about the lack of sliders well yes they did in the NLSC's podcast with Sean O'Brien during mid August.



NBA Live 15: Podcast Interview with Sean O' Brien



Even Haval93 mentioned in a post there just in case someone missed it.

Thanks for posting this...didn't catch it

Honestly, the could've told us this in December 2013 and I would still be complaining about it, lol

It is what it is at this point though...guess well see if it can be implemented next year

[GisherJohn24]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

It comes down to resources needed to have roster edits and sliders. I can live without them for now if they want to focus on the gameplay. It comes down to the gameplay. Let's face it, sliders and roster edits dont' mean a thing if the gameplay is bad. I'd rather them focus on that first. Give us the sliders later.

[Playmakers]

Re: NBA Live 15 Twitter Chat with Executive Producer Sean O'Brien, No Sliders Confirm

It comes down to resources needed to have roster edits and sliders. I can live without them for now if they want to focus on the gameplay. It comes down to the gameplay. Let's face it, sliders and roster edits dont' mean a thing if the gameplay is bad. I'd rather them focus on that first. Give us the sliders later.

Your post make a lot of sense but the biggest problem I have is what other sports game out there has told their fans we'll work on including sliders later?

I don't see how that impacts their ability to work on gameplay just by adding sliders....

We aren't asking them deliver us sliders out of the box that represents a SIM playing experience we are just asking them to add sliders in case we need to tweak certain aspects of gameplay that their synergy engine doesn't deliver properly out of the box to us....

Well anyway there's nothing we can do about it so I'm going to let this situation go and move on from Live again this year...