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  • Hengist
    Rookie
    • Sep 2014
    • 266

    #106
    How anyone can be optimistic about this is baffling. How anyone can even STILL want to play Live after all the massive advancements 2k has made from 2k11 onward is make it even MORE baffling. Why are they still even trying at this point? Is it an issue of irrational "pride" ? They are so far behind 2k in nearly EVERY facet of EVERYTHING. They say competition drives innovation, well, frankly 2k hasn't really needed Live as a competitor to usher it forward...........and still doesn't.

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    • WTF
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 20274

      #107
      Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

      Originally posted by 88SiegHeil88
      How anyone can be optimistic about this is baffling. How anyone can even STILL want to play Live after all the massive advancements 2k has made from 2k11 onward is make it even MORE baffling. Why are they still even trying at this point? Is it an issue of irrational "pride" ? They are so far behind 2k in nearly EVERY facet of EVERYTHING. They say competition drives innovation, well, frankly 2k hasn't really needed Live as a competitor to usher it forward...........and still doesn't.
      Awesome, so you have your game of choice, I'm truly happy for you. However, for others, myself included, there are several facets of 2k that have not made "massive advancements" since 2k11. In fact, quite a bit of what Next Gen 2k14 was, was a regression to many.

      While its great that you enjoy it, respect that others don't, and others look for a viable alternative that suits the style that they're looking for.

      I'm someone who wants 2 good basketball games. I'll buy both games. I'll try to play both games. I'll stick with the 1 that feels best to me. If you want to just buy 1 game on namesake alone, or because it better suits your wants and needs, then that's great. To come on a separate forum to belittle others opinions and attempt to dissuade anyone instead of holding tight for your game isn't needed.
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      • da ThRONe
        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
        • Mar 2009
        • 8528

        #108
        Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

        Originally posted by WTF
        It's not a cause of concern. I understand with the series cancellations in the past, why guys are "weary", but this is not a reason for concern. It's actually a positive to fix these items prior to release. For all we know, it could be minor aesthetic things to enhance all of our experiences collectively.

        As much as it stinks for everyone not to be able to get their hands on it 3 weeks earlier, like we all anticipated, but it's no cause for concern.

        The game will come out, and you can judge upon it's release if you want it or not. There is gameplay coming, there are podcasts and blogs coming. You'll see plenty before release to base your decision on. Pushing it back a few weeks to give "you", the buyer, a better, more complete product is not a bad thing.


        I'd much rather wait 3 weeks for a more polished game than get one and either have to wait for a patch or even worse never have it addressed.


        On a side note I know last gen games had a limit on the number of patches developers could release. Does the same hold true for the nexgen systems?
        Last edited by da ThRONe; 09-15-2014, 08:23 PM.
        You looking at the Chair MAN!

        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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        • GisherJohn24
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 4579

          #109
          Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

          Originally posted by WTF
          Awesome, so you have your game of choice, I'm truly happy for you. However, for others, myself included, there are several facets of 2k that have not made "massive advancements" since 2k11. In fact, quite a bit of what Next Gen 2k14 was, was a regression to many.

          While its great that you enjoy it, respect that others don't, and others look for a viable alternative that suits the style that they're looking for.

          I'm someone who wants 2 good basketball games. I'll buy both games. I'll try to play both games. I'll stick with the 1 that feels best to me. If you want to just buy 1 game on namesake alone, or because it better suits your wants and needs, then that's great. To come on a separate forum to belittle others opinions and attempt to dissuade anyone instead of holding tight for your game isn't needed.
          Yup. Far as I'm concerned 2k11 is the one I still prefer. Live 10 right up there too

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          • WTF
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 20274

            #110
            Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

            Originally posted by da ThRONe
            I'd much rather wait 3 weeks for a more polished game than get one and either have to wait for a patch or even worse never have it addressed.


            On a side note I know last gen games had a limit on the number of patches developers could release. Those the same hold true for the nexgen systems?
            The patch number, I'm not sure if that's still there or not. The good thing with EA though, is that they have the internal "Live Update System" which can deliver as many as they want through the season, the same way they do the roster updates. Pretty slick stuff.
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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #111
              Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

              They will likely still need a patch even with those 3 weeks, just like all the other sports franchises...., just hope this time the patch focuses on the real issues...

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #112
                Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                Originally posted by WTF
                It's not a cause of concern. I understand with the series cancellations in the past, why guys are "weary", but this is not a reason for concern. It's actually a positive to fix these items prior to release. For all we know, it could be minor aesthetic things to enhance all of our experiences collectively.

                As much as it stinks for everyone not to be able to get their hands on it 3 weeks earlier, like we all anticipated, but it's no cause for concern.

                The game will come out, and you can judge upon it's release if you want it or not. There is gameplay coming, there are podcasts and blogs coming. You'll see plenty before release to base your decision on. Pushing it back a few weeks to give "you", the buyer, a better, more complete product is not a bad thing.
                Come on WTF.

                A game that was delayed last year and cancelled in years prior not giving anyone pause?

                I'm all for every team trying to improve their product.

                But this smells more like catchup than polishing.

                There's a reason they wanted leaked gameplay videos pulled.

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                • WTF
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20274

                  #113
                  Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                  I don't blame you for feeling that way. If I was in anyone else's shoes, I'd probably feel the same. Fortunately I'm not, and I dont. It's not catchup, but I know that it's not easy to take their word at face value.
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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #114
                    Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                    Originally posted by WTF
                    The patch number, I'm not sure if that's still there or not. The good thing with EA though, is that they have the internal "Live Update System" which can deliver as many as they want through the season, the same way they do the roster updates. Pretty slick stuff.
                    What's the difference between this year and last year with this feature?
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • WTF
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20274

                      #115
                      Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                      From my knowledge, it's just evolved into what they wanted.
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                      • I Djm
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1297

                        #116
                        Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                        Technically speaking the demo can now release early
                        Hand Down,Man Down

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                        • wacko11
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 45

                          #117
                          Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                          WWE got delayed, where's the big front page panic thread......they won't be one, only live gets that treatment.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #118
                            NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                            Agreed. With WWE 11, 12 & 13 being cancelled, and the half *** effort that was WWE 14, there's definitely a need to be concerned with the pattern the company has established.



                            ..............wait.

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                            • Hengist
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 266

                              #119
                              Originally posted by WTF
                              Awesome, so you have your game of choice, I'm truly happy for you. However, for others, myself included, there are several facets of 2k that have not made "massive advancements" since 2k11. In fact, quite a bit of what Next Gen 2k14 was, was a regression to many.

                              While its great that you enjoy it, respect that others don't, and others look for a viable alternative that suits the style that they're looking for.

                              I'm someone who wants 2 good basketball games. I'll buy both games. I'll try to play both games. I'll stick with the 1 that feels best to me. If you want to just buy 1 game on namesake alone, or because it better suits your wants and needs, then that's great. To come on a separate forum to belittle others opinions and attempt to dissuade anyone instead of holding tight for your game isn't needed.
                              Your right. I was a bit "loose" with the cannon. But if past events are a reliable rubric to determine future outcomes, then the delay could be cause for serious panic. I say instead of inciting panic for Live fans by announcing yet another delay, just release the game as is (akin to how Madden is released yearly) and do the necessary patchwork post-release.

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                              • El_Poopador
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 2624

                                #120
                                Re: NBA Live 15: Is the Delay a Reason for Panic or Optimism? (Roundtable)

                                Originally posted by 88SiegHeil88
                                Your right. I was a bit "loose" with the cannon. But if past events are a reliable rubric to determine future outcomes, then the delay could be cause for serious panic. I say instead of inciting panic for Live fans by announcing yet another delay, just release the game as is (akin to how Madden is released yearly) and do the necessary patchwork post-release.
                                It's one of those situations where you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. If they release early when there are still big issues they want to correct (that can be done so in a short time), then the game starts off with bad initial impressions, which they do not need. If they delay, everyone speculates the worst, based on the recent history with Elite 11 and Live 13.

                                I think their best bet is to release the game when it's ready, and not before. If that means it's delayed, so be it. If the game is good, it won't matter. But if they release it half-baked, it's going to tank, patches or not.

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