NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

[youvalss]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

To be honest, we'd all nitpick a 5 minute video to death. I'm as guilty as everyone else. Trust me, I know. I've done it. Once you play the game though, completely different story.

This is being done for so many other games, there are even IGN or Gamespot videos analyzing every second of a video, and showing it in slow-motion. What's the problem with nitpicking and analyzing?

Also, I think pretty much all their Live 15 trailers received mostly positive critics. Why wouldn't a gameplay video? Unless they are really scared to get burned like what happened the last couple of years after showing gameplay videos...

[La Verite]

LOL, the letter. We've gotten that letter the last 4 years homie. If you want to see connecting with the fans, just look at how they showed off Live '10. They went as far as having Mike Wang show us footage from his house and breaking down the game with actual running gameplay. All that did was reel us back into the series when 2K10 was absolutely terrible.

If this is what you call connecting with that fans, then you haven't been around long enough.

Since Live 95 and 96 I've been around but left live alone when Dreamcast came out with 2K then was onto ps2 up until 2k6.

I've been around but not around or into the media around games like this untill 2k11. So the media part, yes I missed and I didn't care for Live 10 anyways and yes 2K10 sucked, never bought that. 2k9 was my game until 2K11 but I said that already lol. Anyways I'm excited for this now because 2K has become like Madden, and Live 14 reminded me on how they ,EA, always had the atmosphere right, see Coach K. 14 was fun but gameplay and smoothness was missing so I'm excited for 15 to do right.

[Super Glock]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Competition is a great thing, even if you don't acknowledge that there is competition. Competition breeds greatness, and I'm looking forward to it for many years to come.

As much as I disagree with marketing this year, I know where they're coming from because I fell victim myself. Once you play it, I think most guys will understand.

WTF whenever I'm about done with this series you bring me back in lol. I'll trust your word and can't wait to try the demo.

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

I hear you... as long as this doesn't become common place for them to throw "we're not going to market game heavily" out there and then hide the game until release..then it's all good....saying that up front doesn't absolve them any criticism of the process IMO

Oh, I'm not saying it was the best strategy, or that it should be the plan going forward. I'm just saying that there has been a lot of speculation (mostly negative) when they said from the beginning we wouldn't see much in terms of marketing for the game this year.

But I do think they could have done a much better job quelling some of the fears that people have.

[WTF]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

WTF whenever I'm about done with this series you bring me back in lol. I'll trust your word and can't wait to try the demo.

Haha. Not my intent to reel anyone in, but I do think that guys who play the demo or the EA ACCESS version will thoroughly enjoy their time with the game AS LONG AS they don't play the game like it's 2k. If guys slow down and learn how the players move and how the controls respond to your input, you'll have a lot of fun.

Oh, and make SURE you turn Auto Motion to ON.

[La Verite]

^does 2k15 have automation? Spiiiit.....

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Don't play the game like its 2K or don't play the game like its NBA Street? Because there is a difference.

[WTF]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Don't play the game like its 2K or don't play the game like its NBA Street? Because there is a difference.

Don't play the game control wise like it's 2k. The player movements are completely different. I'm aware there is a difference. I've seen guys get frustrated because they feel like they can't do certain things. They can, and more, but they have to rethink how they're controlling their players.

[rtkiii]

Well this helps me decide. No BBALL game this year for me. Nice work EA and 2K on the Bball front. Good thing Madden is actually pretty freaking good.

[Mr.Smif]

Same reaction I had when I read that post. There is a final video on youtube where HipHopGamer gives his real opinion on his experience while playing Live 15. I know he's not taken seriously on here, but I found this video interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PGTl7XUC1o

What stood out to me about what he said is how he felt about the graphics, he was not impressed, saying only a little better than 14.

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Come on man, you're better than this. My point still stands and so does yours, despite what you said specifically. Where in that post do you get the perception that I "seem convinced" that 15 won't deliver the goods and what does it matter if I don't think it will? I've stated more than once around here that I'm going to try the demo cause I want to see for myself, I also bought 14 last year just to see for myself. So what does it matter?

Better than what exactly?


I don't know how you can read what you posted and think anybody could come away thinking you feel positive about Live 15. "EA Sports is the epitome of snake oil salesmen" isn't a ringing endorsement.


But I have to say this line is what really make me think you are expecting Live 15 to come up short. "They won't show any sort of unedited gameplay of the game to this point and they're okaying articles that can be read as 'yeah, we're selling you a less than stellar game this year with the intention of giving you that stellar product two years from now.'"

Maybe I did misinterpret your meaning reading things often doesn't express tone, but it certainly seems like you aren't expecting much from Live 15.

So your thing is everyone should shut up and not say anything at all about the game until it comes out? What does that help exactly?

I just think in fairness it best to look at each game as it's own independent entity. Going in with a mindset of since EA has marketed bad games the same way it is marketing this game therefore this game will likely be bad is going in with a preconceived notion. That's the impression I took from your post. Again not the opinion police and certainly not trying to tell you how to feel especially not over a videogame if that was indeed you point in your post. Just think people should pump the brakes until we have unedited footage to really judge Live 15 in order to do so with a clean slate. I understand your argument they haven't earned a clean slate. However from what I see when people go into something with a negative mindset it has a negative impact on what I they take away. Either way not a big deal.

[GisherJohn24]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

What stood out to me about what he said is how he felt about the graphics, he was not impressed, saying only a little better than 14.

14 didn't look bad. Just herky jerky

[King_B_Mack]

NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Better than what exactly?





I don't know how you can read what you posted and think anybody could come away thinking you feel positive about Live 15. "EA Sports is the epitome of snake oil salesmen" isn't a ringing endorsement.





But I have to say this line is what really make me think you are expecting Live 15 to come up short. "They won't show any sort of unedited gameplay of the game to this point and they're okaying articles that can be read as 'yeah, we're selling you a less than stellar game this year with the intention of giving you that stellar product two years from now.'"



Maybe I did misinterpret your meaning reading things often doesn't express tone, but it certainly seems like you aren't expecting much from Live 15.

Yeah, you're definitely missing where I'm coming from. Because you're talking about things that isn't relevant to the topic of this thread. I'm speaking in the context of this article. I don't trust EA and being "snakeoil salesmen" with regards to telling you the game is coming out next year right now. I like Sean and I believe he's putting his all into trying to right this ship, but he's not writing any checks at EA. So him telling me Live 16 is coming because it's already in development means jack because it's not his decision. I'll bet Mike Wang could tell us Live 11 was coming a week before Live 10 dropped as well. How'd that work out for everybody?



As for the other line. How is that me believing Live 15 is going to come up short? That's what he said in the article. Or at least what a lot of readers could take away from it. That's all I was stating. That's not me stating my expectations for 15, that's me pointing out how his comments come off in this write up.

I just think in fairness it best to look at each game as it's own independent entity. Going in with a mindset of since EA has marketed bad games the same way it is marketing this game therefore this game will likely be bad is going in with a preconceived notion. That's the impression I took from your post. Again not the opinion police and certainly not trying to tell you how to feel especially not over a videogame if that was indeed you point in your post. Just think people should pump the brakes until we have unedited footage to really judge Live 15 in order to do so with a clean slate. I understand your argument they haven't earned a clean slate. However from what I see when people go into something with a negative mindset it has a negative impact on what I they take away. Either way not a big deal.

People taking notice of the same patterns happening repeatedly isn't being unfair. There's not a whole lot of people if any saying they aren't going to try the game for themselves outside of the usual trolls that infest every forum fanboying for their favorite franchise. EA is literally giving people nothing on this game, so if people are talking and expressing their concerns with that approach, so be it.

[dubplate]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

What stood out to me about what he said is how he felt about the graphics, he was not impressed, saying only a little better than 14.

Yet every other preview I've read says the graphics are definitely better than last year. I don't trust this dude at all.

[thedream2k13]

Re: NBA Live Executive Producer: There will be an NBA Live 16 (Polygon)

Producers comments are like telling me to skip live 15 and buy 16. He needs to choose his words more carefully