NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Coming Soon For Xbox One

[Walt Frazier]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

I don't think they focused on fixing it for this year. I guess all they had time to do was graphics, animation, onboarding and presentation. If not this year they definitely have to fix it next year along with deeper modes and customization.


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They promised a fix for 14...and I know for a fact they have worked on it for 15.

The fact they have addressed it and worked on it and yet it is still there shows it can't be fixed.

It is the engine. That means 16 will have the bug also.

[Walt Frazier]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

Nah man, lol

This isn't the CPU trying to get a two for one...they are just simply brain dead down the stretch. Walt pretty much described what happens a lot of the time perfectly. I also just had the Grizzlies inbound the ball down 53-48 and they ran the clock down to the buzzer to launch a 3 with C. Lee. Will upload it shortly.

Edit:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1559503547615287&id=100006669704684

Something's just wrong with they way they are programmed to execute in late game situations...

I think the issue is they CAN'T programme the CPU for specific situations...so, the CPU just plays normally and takes the best shot / doesn't realise it is down 3.


I don't want to sound negative, but FIFA had terrible late game AI for years and years. Only a new engine changed things. It looks like LIVE is stuck with this crap until they change the engine. I don't even know what to say at this point. It is the ultimate game killer in a sports game.


They are probably just going to ignore it from here and hope people like you stop bombarding their twitter feed with videos of late game AI failure

[Calvenn]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

This begs the question, what exactly was improved in regards to the late game ai? I also have the same question about the listed defensive improvements. Not to sound down about this patch ( have already noted the positives) but how can they make these statements when in some cases the situation has worsened or never improved?

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

Watching some CPU v CPU and I must say that ea really did a great job addressing the high volume of shots that go in. Both teams are shooting below 45% instead of both teams shooting above 55%.

Aslo seeing more realistic scores

[Walt Frazier]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

This begs the question, what exactly was improved in regards to the late game ai? I also have the same question about the listed defensive improvements. Not to sound down about this patch ( have already noted the positives) but how can they make these statements when in some cases the situation has worsened or never improved?

Sometimes the late game CPU would not take ANY shot.


I.e. they would just dribble the clock out when down.


Going on their notes, I think they have addressed that.


END OF GAME AI
Address late game AI issues where players would not react or respond naturally – often causing them to dribble the ball out or not attempt a shot with the clock winding down.




I.e. nothing about "take the wrong shot / take a 2 when down three". They have carefully worded it, but it basically hasn't addressed the main issue.

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

This begs the question, what exactly was improved in regards to the late game ai? I also have the same question about the listed defensive improvements. Not to sound down about this patch ( have already noted the positives) but how can they make these statements when in some cases the situation has worsened or never improved?

Defense didn't change imo

[benefactor]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

This begs the question, what exactly was improved in regards to the late game ai?

Not sure if you read the first post, but it mentions the CPU will now actually take a shot.

Before (and all through Live 14) the team with the ball often wouldn't even attempt a shot. This happened at any time during a game, no matter what the score or how much time left. It just looked even worse when a team was down with seconds remaining and instead of attempting a shot to win the game, they dribbled to the siren sounded.

For all those who didnt read ...

We also received some questions from fans about how the update is affecting rosters.

Synergy tendencies have always been a part of making NBA LIVE play like the real deal, and today we’ve added some new features to make the integration even better.

Synergy feeds us roster data every day so lineups reflect the real world:

- We reflect the last game played. That’s sometimes that can be two or three nights ago.
- All players are always available in Dynasty, Rising Star and Ultimate Team
- If a particular player didn’t dress, he will not show up in the lineup when entering Play Now (Both Offline and Online)
- If a player DNP but was on the bench, he’ll be available (unless there were 12 active players who played in the game, then DNP won’t be in the lineup).

This allows us to be in lockstep with the NBA, and always reflects the actual starting lineups on a day-to-day basis.

This is a terrible excuse and a cop-out.

Lebron didn't play last game in real life, so I can't load up the game I paid $60 for and play as him in a simple quick game.

Just ridiculous.

We all know how features (hopefully sliders etc) are talked about for future versions but this reads like it is intended. How the hell can EA not allow us to choose Live or Manual rosters? If we don't want to abide by the injury or trade list, we shouldn't have to.

[WTF]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

Awesome, LBJ is in the Cavs lineup. Updated 1 HR after the game was over.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

I believe that Walt is right regarding the bug being unfixable because the bug is in the engine. Looking back on EA games like NCAA Football where the CPU AI fails to recognize that it's down at the end and instead of runner ng hurry up to score, they still run the football. Or the bug where if you played on Heisman, if the CPU was inside the 50 yard line they would never punt. They would always kick FG no matter what. Just stupid simple stuff. Surely they know how cruicial late game AI is to basketball right?

[Walt Frazier]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

I believe that Walt is right regarding the bug being unfixable because the bug is in the engine. Looking back on EA games like NCAA Football where the CPU AI fails to recognize that it's down at the end and instead of runner ng hurry up to score, they still run the football. Or the bug where if you played on Heisman, if the CPU was inside the 50 yard line they would never punt. They would always kick FG no matter what. Just stupid simple stuff. Surely they know how cruicial late game AI is to basketball right?

Yes, it is the engine.

Which means it is stuck there for the forseeable future...and is a damm shame as it kills a basketball game.

[benefactor]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

No way.

I'm no programmer but I bet my house it's fixable.

[Walt Frazier]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

No way.

I'm no programmer but I bet my house it's fixable.

Explain wh it has been there for two years?

And why several EA games have had similar problems that were not fixed until a new engine?

[Calvenn]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

Quick question for everyone playing the game post patch and reporting results particularly in regards to defensive enhancements. Are your defensive settings at default ( on ball auto, off ball auto) or have you modified the coaching settings? If so, what is your modification setting?

[ThaLiveKing]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

I played a game and a half when I got home, the percentages are on point, much more balanced (Xbox One), I don't have the official patch yet, but I'm noticing difference in a lot of things such as animations in the paint, and much quicker game play, smoother game play, something had to update, I hope the patch is out when I get up, cause my experience in those games and a half were pretty nice and realistic. I play 8 min quarters!!

[benefactor]

Re: NBA Live 15 Title Update #2 Available Now For PS4, Tomorrow For Xbox One

Placebo mate.

If you haven't got the patch you are just seeing stuff you never looked for before.