Open/Guarded/Contested

[GSW]

What is the formula behind this?

I didnt see a thread about this exact topic.

It seems to me that "Guarded" shots have the same probability of going n as "contested"

I know there is a picture around of "Guarded" being basically any defender within 5 feet of you but exactly what is the science behind this?

I dont feel like I can hit one/two dribble pull ups in this game sometimes even with height advantages because of "guarded" percentages being affected.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

GotMad made a good breakdown of this in another thread....I'll see if I can find it.

I remember I was playing a game in scrimmage though...went around a pick with D-Lill clean and pull up for a jumper.

Somehow this translated into a 'contested' shot when my man was at least 2-3 feet beside me with his hands down..

I think the logic behind contested shots, as well as the penalty for contested shots should be tweaked..

[zmoney117]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

I agree. Basically impossible to establish a mid range game. Even elite guys (durant,curry, irving) can't break their man down and make a mid range shot. Shot penalties are so crippling. All scoring in a game comes from open threes and dunks/layups. Not a good representation of the sport. Players iso and make contested mid range jumpers all the time.

[catfish9-5]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

This is why I can't play this game. I will start to play it hoping something might be changed. Mid 1st quarter, im done. I really want to enjoy it but the jump shooting in general makes me turn it off. Be it the lack off cpu mid range game and the not being able to make a simple jump shot due to "contested"

[mp3]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

The thing that is killing me right now is that the cpu either kills you on drives which if you do stop them you finish a 12 minute quarter game on superstar with 20+ blocks or on the flip side the cpu buries you with hitting 20 of 23 three point attempts.

[WTF]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

It wasn't as bad as it is now on release. They've tweaked something that did not work as well as they thought. Initially, guys complained (with merit) that some of the shooting % were high, especially from beyond the arc. EA tweaked the radius in which shots were contested/guarded apparently resulting in lower % shooting.

I miss the game on release to be honest.

[zrohman]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

It wasn't as bad as it is now on release. They've tweaked something that did not work as well as they thought. Initially, guys complained (with merit) that some of the shooting % were high, especially from beyond the arc. EA tweaked the radius in which shots were contested/guarded apparently resulting in lower % shooting.

I miss the game on release to be honest.

At least it was balanced, even with percentage too high. Now I can't even get through a full game

[dasunsrule32]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

I'm not having issues. What I've learned, splitting double teams will get you open midrange jumpers. Happy, happy, happy... :-)

Along with good ball movement

[The 24th Letter]

Open/Guarded/Contested

Agree with you guy's, the balance of the game is what kept me coming back originally....I had my complaints but I felt the game played fair .....things seem to have been thrown out of wack with the update....

[donkey33]

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Yeah, I find I turn it off now after 5-6 minutes as it's unplayable. At least when it was released, it was well balanced and fun. I loved seeing players curl off a screen and drain a jumper or three. No longer.

If they let us remove the patch, I'd do it to get back to release game play.

[kwas676]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

Yeah, I find I turn it off now after 5-6 minutes as it's unplayable. At least when it was released, it was well balanced and fun. I loved seeing players curl off a screen and drain a jumper or three. No longer.

If they let us remove the patch, I'd do it to get back to release game play.

Same here man, also seems like the animations got worse.

[catfish9-5]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

It wasn't as bad as it is now on release. They've tweaked something that did not work as well as they thought. Initially, guys complained (with merit) that some of the shooting % were high, especially from beyond the arc. EA tweaked the radius in which shots were contested/guarded apparently resulting in lower % shooting.

I miss the game on release to be honest.

Have you been playing live? I played a little this morning and jump shots seem to be a little more accurate as far as makes. And post play seems not to be as herky jerky with extreme contact. Don't know. Just wanted to check with you or 24th, guys I trust with gameplay input and if y'all have noticed a slight "improvement".

[WTF]

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Yeah, I played 3-4 games this morning. It's the first time I've had some extended playtime for a bit.

I'm having a good time playing again. I gave some pretty harsh but fair criticism, and although I'm not sure how quick things can be fixed, a lot of the flow was MUCH better this morning.

I saw the Thunder throw an oop against me the first possession of the game, guys were moving the ball quicker, not dominated by the PG.

Jumpshots, I'm knocking down at a nice clip, as is the CPU. Even saw some Ibaka baseline jumpers.

[catfish9-5]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

Yeah, I played 3-4 games this morning. It's the first time I've had some extended playtime for a bit.

I'm having a good time playing again. I gave some pretty harsh but fair criticism, and although I'm not sure how quick things can be fixed, a lot of the flow was MUCH better this morning.

I saw the Thunder throw an oop against me the first possession of the game, guys were moving the ball quicker, not dominated by the PG.

Jumpshots, I'm knocking down at a nice clip, as is the CPU. Even saw some Ibaka baseline jumpers.

Well, I'm glad you're seeing it too. I've had some fun games, now if we can get a roster update, I might start a dynasty to see how it goes. Thanks for your reply

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Open/Guarded/Contested

Have you been playing live? I played a little this morning and jump shots seem to be a little more accurate as far as makes. And post play seems not to be as herky jerky with extreme contact. Don't know. Just wanted to check with you or 24th, guys I trust with gameplay input and if y'all have noticed a slight "improvement".

I'll check it out....good to hear some are seeing improvements