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  • Haval93
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    • Jan 2008
    • 512

    #631
    Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

    My impressions so far of the demo are very mixed. On one hand, it's a solid improvement over Live 15 in some areas, but on the other hand the game needs a ton of work still. For game play, animation quality, quantity, context and collision detection are the weak points. There are still horrid animations in the game that make no sense in context to the current situation and just look horrible. I run into these animations way too much. Collision detection also needs to be fixed, too many times do players just push other players out the way, or when a player actually stops another, it's a pre-determined animation and not a dynamic one. I am tried of seeing the pre-determined(canned animation) dunk on animations. I also am seeing a ton of sliding on dunks and dribbling moves. I thought "Live-Motion and Ragdoll physics" were suppose to fix these problems. As far as the positives, the dribble hand-off mechanic and Pro-Am are nice, but one game play feature and one mode aren't going to keep me coming back to the game.

    Hopefully "next year" we see real and actual improvements to overall game play and an improved presentation suite(Same for the past three years), and more depth to features(Same last three years with exception of Pro-Am). As of now, the NBA Live team has lost my support with the past three years of fumbling around trying to establish an identity. Myself and many others are tried of hearing "potential" for this series, they have had plenty of time, man-power, and resources and yet an overall great product has yet to be released. Just my two cents.

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    • Flightwhite24
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      • Jul 2005
      • 12094

      #632
      NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

      Just got a quick game in with the new update just to see if I noticed any improvements. To be totally honest other than the Russell face update which by the way is really bad, looks nothing like him. I didn't notice any difference.

      I played the Spurs and it was still either drive to the paint or the 3. What really made me end up turning it off was the picture I'm about to post. Kawhi shooting at the other basket. Twice now I've seen it.

      I wish I was more of a online gamer and then this game would probably be a keeper. Still a great deal of work for EA to do with this title imo.


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      • Playmakers
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        • Sep 2004
        • 15407

        #633
        Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

        I have to be unbiased and say i agree with both flight and havala93 that this game is still light yers behind some of the sports games out there.

        I spent playing fifa, nhl, nba 2k and madden lastnight just to see how the demo version of live stacked up to those games and again it all goes back to the animations in this series just being way too much at a disadvantage when you compare them to those other games even after 3 years now.

        Now i do like game don't get me wrong and I've never encountered seeing the cpu do what flight just posted in that picture but ea has a history of those types of things happening in nbalive year after year which to be quite frank assinine to have that type of crap happen when your trying to restablish your product to a fanbase.

        This game plays like what nba live 06 or 07 should have felt like yet here we are roughly 8 years later finally getting a game that has some replay value.....the problem is it can't compete from a overall perspective with it's other sports counter parts.

        I'm going to make the best of it though just wish they didn't charge us $60 bucks for a barebones product in terms of depth.

        I'm not a online gamer so i have to rely on Ea's ability to give us a good cpu ai experience.....i hope they can fix some the issues reported in the demo this year after the game drops with a top notch patch
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        • WTF
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          • Aug 2002
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          #634
          Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

          Hey Flight, did you happen to restart the game after the Live Content Update? A few of us have had it be where it would download the update, but not really initialize until you restart. I'd give that a try. Obrien mentioned that the backwards shooting was fixed in the update.

          Can't really disagree all that much , but you should be seeing some additional contact, etc.
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          • Calvenn
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            • Oct 2002
            • 698

            #635
            Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

            I agree with what is being said here. The game has its strengths but also needs very evident and effective patching. I'm personally not into all the fancy game and story modes except for Dynasty, but the market demands it so this must become an area of focus next year akin to Pro AM. From a gameplay perspective, I am not going to lie, the game is a pleasure with certain eye sores. They need to address defense as has been mentioned ad nauseum. As it stands, it's too easy to shake your defender at times. This brings me to my next point. The animation that is triggered during these sequences needs more balance and variety. At this juncture the same half twist animation is being used for a fakeout each time. How about a defender falling out of balance (not necessarily facing the other direction) and other similar animations? Also, the cpu defender should be able to maintain better position most of the time after a crossover or combo move has been performed. Can this be corrected this year? So, definately more animations should be incorporated. Also agree that more uniqueness must be implemented. Dribbling, shooting, post game, etc, etc. This was belabored last year and they have improved in certain ways but need a lot more obviously.

            I am putting some strong faith in this upcoming patch and future patches and hope some key issues will be addressed. This game just has a certain appealing "feel" that I can't find any where else but they need to round it out and hopefully soon!
            Last edited by Calvenn; 09-26-2015, 10:04 AM.

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            • noshun
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              • Sep 2006
              • 1150

              #636
              Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

              Originally posted by Playmakers
              Now i do like game don't get me wrong and I've never encountered seeing the cpu do what flight just posted in that picture but ea has a history of those types of things happening in nbalive year after year which to be quite frank assinine to have that type of crap happen when your trying to restablish your product to a fanbase
              Originally posted by CAMPBLACKMAMBA24
              I played the Spurs and it was still either drive to the paint or the 3. What really made me end up turning it off was the picture I'm about to post. Kawhi shooting at the other basket. Twice now I've seen it.


              Originally posted by Sean O'Brien
              As with anytime you release demo software before it’s final, there’s a chance some funky things might happen – 2D avatars and backwards jump shots, for examples.

              But, these issues – along with others – are scheduled to be updated prior to the official launch on the 29th.
              So basically this stuff from the demo fully contradicts what Sean is saying as he states "demo before it's final," but yet, this stuff is happening in the full finished final version of the game which CBM24 has shown in this pict? Someone is lying here... Yeah I know, theres a patch. It's in both demo and final build, regardless of the patch. Spade a spade fellas.. Hopefully it truly gets fixed...
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              • Flightwhite24
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                • Jul 2005
                • 12094

                #637
                Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                Originally posted by noshun
                So basically this stuff from the demo fully contradicts what Sean is saying as he states "demo before it's final," but yet, this stuff is happening in the full finished final version of the game which CBM24 has shown in this pict? Someone is lying here... Yeah I know, theres a patch. It's in both demo and final build, regardless of the patch. Spade a spade fellas.. Hopefully it truly gets fixed...

                I've only played the retail and I've seen it happen twice. I downloaded the 1st Patch and it happened and now I have the latest update and this happens again. Not gonna lie I was somewhat surprised not only by this but also the facial scan that Russell had.

                Very hard for me being a EA fan from the early/mid 90's when I use to drive from Fresno to EA's San Mateo location and I would get my game a few days early. NBA Showdown was the 1st early release title that started The Hunt for me. But what is going on now I'm just stumped.

                I've been trying to dump this game for 4 days now on my local Craigslist at a $40 price tag and I haven't gotten not 1 single call/offer. Imo that says a lot about what people think of EA basketball.


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                • pdawg17
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 937

                  #638
                  Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by CAMPBLACKMAMBA24
                  I've only played the retail and I've seen it happen twice. I downloaded the 1st Patch and it happened and now I have the latest update and this happens again. Not gonna lie I was somewhat surprised not only by this but also the facial scan that Russell had.

                  Very hard for me being a EA fan from the early/mid 90's when I use to drive from Fresno to EA's San Mateo location and I would get my game a few days early. NBA Showdown was the 1st early release title that started The Hunt for me. But what is going on now I'm just stumped.

                  I've been trying to dump this game for 4 days now on my local Craigslist at a $40 price tag and I haven't gotten not 1 single call/offer. Imo that says a lot about what people think of EA basketball.


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                  Unfortunately I knew Russell's face scan wouldn't be in as I had seen on Twitter from Sean O'Brien that they hadn't gotten to him yet...

                  The rest I'm kind of surprised to read. I posted my post update thoughts in the trial thread Dubs (me) at Spurs and noticed an immediate improvement. I wish I would have saved my shot chart as the Spurs had a handful of mid-range shots that I never saw pre-update. Plus way more contact whether it be bodying up on the perimeter or in the paint. On 5 minute quarters both teams ended up with 13-15 FT each. This was on Allstar with default sliders.

                  Sure it's only one game but it was dramatic enough I would've thought a decent amount of the improvements would be noticeable right off the bat...
                  Last edited by pdawg17; 09-26-2015, 10:08 AM.

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                  • Flightwhite24
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                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12094

                    #639
                    Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                    Originally posted by pdawg17
                    Unfortunately I knew Russell's face scan wouldn't be in as I had seen on Twitter from Sean O'Brien that they hadn't gotten to him yet...

                    The rest I'm kind of surprised to read. I posted my post update thoughts in the trial thread Dubs (me) at Spurs and noticed an immediate improvement. I wish I would have saved my shot chart as the Spurs had a handful of mid-range shots that I never saw pre-update. Plus way more contact whether it be bodying up on the perimeter or in the paint. On 5 minute quarters both teams ended up with 13-15 FT each. This was on Allstar with default sliders.

                    Sure it's only one game but it was dramatic enough I would've thought a decent amount of the improvements would be noticeable right off the bat...

                    In all fairness I didn't give it a fair shake due to glitch I encountered because I shut it off. It's not a bad game at all but I thought this game would be further along after 3 more years. But I can tell I won't be playing this in the future so I might as well move on but I do hope that this game continues to improve at a much faster pace than the present.


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                    • Flightwhite24
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                      • Jul 2005
                      • 12094

                      #640
                      Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by WTF
                      Hey Flight, did you happen to restart the game after the Live Content Update? A few of us have had it be where it would download the update, but not really initialize until you restart. I'd give that a try. Obrien mentioned that the backwards shooting was fixed in the update.

                      Can't really disagree all that much , but you should be seeing some additional contact, etc.

                      I didn't even think about that. I'm off work in a few hours and will give it another whirl. Thanks for the tip


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                      • celtics6
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                        • Sep 2011
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                        #641
                        Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                        I really like it. Not really seeing what people are saying as far as it being light years behind other games. It's as good as anything else. Shows you what marketing does tho ugh.

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                        • Calvenn
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 698

                          #642
                          Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                          Originally posted by celtics6
                          I really like it. Not really seeing what people are saying as far as it being light years behind other games. It's as good as anything else. Shows you what marketing does tho ugh.

                          Bingo! Well said. Unfortunately good marketing and the ill will developed throughout the years from EA, creates this sort of whiplash reaction. Also doesn't help that there were expectations for a deeper game this year. At its core the game is very solid. Just hope common sense will prevail and that folks out there will take the time to see the game for what is has become and not be easily influenced or dissuaded by others! Just have to go in with the right expectations.
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                          • Playmakers
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                            • Sep 2004
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                            #643
                            Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                            Originally posted by celtics6
                            I really like it. Not really seeing what people are saying as far as it being light years behind other games. It's as good as anything else. Shows you what marketing does tho ugh.
                            When i say light years behind i'm talking about the animations and depth of Live 16

                            If you go play FIFA, NHL, MLB The Show or NBA 2K are telling me that Live 16 has animations that are up to par with those games right now today?

                            In terms of customization do you think Live 16 is on equal terms with those games right now?

                            I'd say this game is lacing in both areas and that's why i said it's light years behind the other sports titles right now...
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                            • The 24th Letter
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                              • Oct 2007
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                              #644
                              NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                              The game is nowhere near as bad (or as revolutionary for that matter) as some say IMO

                              They are definitely lacking in the animation category though ...some of the stuff they pull off especially near the basket is stuff I've never see a NBA player do...and that's not in a good way...


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                              • UAWALKON
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                                #645
                                Re: NBA Live 16 Demo Available For Xbox One and PS4, Post Your Impressions

                                After spending time in learn live cause I was so use to 2k I actually like this game a lot more it plays really good I'm glad I tried it . I'm preordering this game

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