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  • 2_headedmonster
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2251

    #16
    Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

    Originally posted by apollooff320
    he's right though...also Pham does come off bias. Why he even bring up shot fatigue when it wasn't even in the game until last year, and on top of that a lot of us hate it and think it's unrealistic.
    Also what do you think you're gonna get with a person with a channel name of "Sam Pham NBA2K Tips and Tutorial". Then in his video says he will have a lot of 2K16 videos and a lot of NBA Live 16 criticism videos.
    Is it that Sam Pham lied about his praise or you have a problem with him favoring it?

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    • LetTheBoyShoot
      Banned
      • Sep 2015
      • 63

      #17
      LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

      I didnt mention this in the vid but matchmaking could use some improvements, sometimes it doesnt find anyone [emoji20]
      Last edited by LetTheBoyShoot; 09-20-2015, 05:15 AM.

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      • stillfeelme
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 2407

        #18
        Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

        Wow I thought the layups were bad didn't realize they were this bad because I never tried to use them to this level

        Can a dev comment on what is included in a patch?

        • Shooting % success rate seems to be off the calculation seems wrong that seems simple to fix by patch
        • Layup triggering speed and distance, guys triggering layups from distances way too far and too fast. Can this even be patched?
        • Success in the paint when contested needs to go way down.
        • Animation selection in the paint is just awkward to say the least. The animations don't play out in a normal way. I know they know this which makes me think this is the best they could do with whatever time resources constraints they had. Is this stuff even patchable.
        • AI defense can it be patched

        I haven't heard or seen a post saying these type of things are included in day 1 patch

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        • Scvllp
          Pro
          • Sep 2014
          • 609

          #19
          Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

          I didn't make it past a minute in the video because of the guys voice. From what I did see all he did was prove Sam right.

          If you seriously think a patch is going to fix the issues in these videos you are kidding yourself

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          • MUTWOKAL
            Rookie
            • Feb 2013
            • 66

            #20
            Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

            Isn't the demo the full game but with locked out features it's also the same size as the full game in gb so there's no reason to think the full game will fix anything graphically or any AI fixes just unlocks the features


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            • Philstat
              Pro
              • Oct 2002
              • 864

              #21
              Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

              Originally posted by swac07
              I was thinking the same thing the whole time watching the video, dude completely showed the game has MASSIVE issues and then keeps saying it's not a big deal to be concerned about, it's just the demo, it'll be patched - uhhh yeah, sure it will be.

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              • Philstat
                Pro
                • Oct 2002
                • 864

                #22
                Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                Originally posted by LetTheBoyShoot
                Are you kidding me? I can do the same thing on 2k! Thats after 4 patches!


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                BS, YOU CAN NOT DO THIS ON 2K, just total BS, just don't see it happening. I actually find 2K frustrating at times because the defense is like glue, almost too much at times, to a fault.
                Last edited by Philstat; 09-20-2015, 10:53 AM.

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                • mrprice33
                  Just some guy
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5986

                  #23
                  Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                  Live might just not be in a place for the AI to contest cheese like that, sorta like where Madden was a couple of years ago, or 2K was 2 years ago or so. For users playing against AI, you'll probably have to play a realistic game to get realistic results. What stuff like this does for online play remains to be seen. We had a cheeser in our testing group who was killing another player with Lillard. I took over and I think he scored 4 points in a quarter. If a user can stop it, then it's not quite a gamebreaker. It's certainly less fun if this is all you see online, but it's not necessarily a game breaker.


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                  • swac07
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1843

                    #24
                    Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                    Originally posted by MUTWOKAL
                    Isn't the demo the full game but with locked out features it's also the same size as the full game in gb...


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                    B...I...N...G....O....!!!

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                    • thedream2k16
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 651

                      #25
                      Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                      78 was the highest I got with durant so far just doing same screen plays over and over. I pray for everyone the the retail version has adaptive AI like what I witnessed with the other game last night. And per this issue being patched, that's impossible

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                      • Roger_Black
                        Rookie
                        • May 2015
                        • 157

                        #26
                        LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                        Originally posted by kolkmania
                        You do realize a patch won't create a complete new defensive system right?

                        Not true. At all.

                        The 'defensive system' is just object-oriented code and logic algorithms.

                        And Patches are used to fix such coding issues.

                        When you download & install a 'patch' it OVERWRITES the existing code already installed on your console.

                        So a developer can patch ANY part of the game they wish. (Whether it's the defensive system, the presentation UI panels, shot mechanics, the CPU AI, the HUD overlays, the arenas, jerseys, etc.)

                        The only question/factor is whether they have enough 'time' and 'resources' available to work on certain issues.

                        That's the ONLY thing that limits what gets put into any given 'patch'.

                        Patches are usually confined to 'bug fixes' because most developers do not have enough coders on staff to work on the very next version of the game... AND... rebuild/fix the existing game at the same time.

                        But with enough time & effort... EA (or 2k) could turn an entire NBA sports game into a 'first-person shooter' with just a SINGLE patch, if they chose to do so.

                        But it just doesn't happen.

                        The investment is too great because a game developer has to devote a significant amount of MONEY (and staff) to do it... which cuts deeply into their annual profits.

                        So it's not that a single 'patch' could never create an entire defensive system.... It's really a matter of 'how long' it would take to rebuild it... and whether or not it's worth the investment, in the eyes of the EA executives.
                        Last edited by Roger_Black; 09-20-2015, 11:20 AM.

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                        • Philstat
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 864

                          #27
                          Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                          Originally posted by swac07
                          B...I...N...G....O....!!!

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                          Exactly, a lot of folks wan't to deny the fact, this is the FULL GAME, with compartments of it locked until you purchase.

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                          • thedream2k16
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 651

                            #28
                            Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                            Originally posted by LetTheBoyShoot
                            Are you kidding me? I can do the same thing on 2k! Thats after 4 patches!


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                            Lol NOPE and MANY have tried

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                            • swac07
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 1843

                              #29
                              Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                              Originally posted by Philstat
                              Exactly, a lot of folks wan't to deny the fact, this is the FULL GAME, with compartments of it locked until you purchase.
                              And the Day one Patch thats why I laugh...We all d'led the full game (22.3 Gbs)its just LOCKED with just pro am & tip off(limited) open [emoji38]

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                              • Goffs
                                New Ork Giants
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12279

                                #30
                                Re: LeBron Scores 138 Points: Live 16 Major Layups + Dribbling Through Issues

                                Live "fans" are a funny bunch...video proof of something potentially game breaking and brush it off...

                                Yeah this game has a bright future if devs listen to these "fans"

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