Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

[Pared]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

Maybe - one can hope - overall ratings don't mean too much.

I felt this in last year's game, that the OVR didn't necessarily show the player's true worth. you needed to look deeper at individual ratings, to evaluate how you wanted to use them.

Why would Garnett be better? Honestly - all-around - Garnett is better. he can play all 5 positions, and plays both outside and in. That doesn't mean, though, that he's a better PF/C than Duncan. Just has more talents, some of which are pretty useless in the post.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

[Pared]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

Maybe - one can hope - overall ratings don't mean too much.

I felt this in last year's game, that the OVR didn't necessarily show the player's true worth. you needed to look deeper at individual ratings, to evaluate how you wanted to use them.

Why would Garnett be better? Honestly - all-around - Garnett is better. he can play all 5 positions, and plays both outside and in. That doesn't mean, though, that he's a better PF/C than Duncan. Just has more talents, some of which are pretty useless in the post.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

[CMH]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

With all the complaining about ratings I really do hope that EA doesn't listen and go back to the 50-100 system.

That system was terrible.

I seriously don't understand how people don't see the benefits of a 1-100 system and why they seriously think that Duncan being an 89 means that he sucks when it really means that he's about a 96 in the old system.

[CMH]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

With all the complaining about ratings I really do hope that EA doesn't listen and go back to the 50-100 system.

That system was terrible.

I seriously don't understand how people don't see the benefits of a 1-100 system and why they seriously think that Duncan being an 89 means that he sucks when it really means that he's about a 96 in the old system.

[Jon22]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

well actually this is really how its down. They get a board and put 0-100 on the board, then call a name , then the guy that is blind folded throws a dart and there you have it.

[Jon22]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

well actually this is really how its down. They get a board and put 0-100 on the board, then call a name , then the guy that is blind folded throws a dart and there you have it.

[SuperFlash]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

Someone on the boards had already posted this but I think we need to see it again.


Previous NBA Lives had the rating scale of the players, 50-99. Thus, the superstar players had to be mid to high 90s leaving little room for improvment and most of all, few differences in each player. With the way they have them rated now, 1 - 99, there can be a greater sense of diversity. Each player has his own feel to him which is unique. Granted KG is rated 97 and Tim Duncan is rated 89, but the way the ratings are those are correct. I am baseing this off of a screenshot about scouting players. You had 3 categories to choose from. Offense, Defense, and Athlete. So instead of having seperate ratings for each position, I believe this is how they worked it. I think it is a good thing too since basketball is a type of game you can get away with it. Football would be nearly impossible since some people are so slow, but in basketball, your skills determine what position you play, along with height. KG plays PF because he is strong and can show midrange jumpers very well. Duncan is a great defensive player with an amazing post game. Duncan will back down KG anyday, but with repects, KG would make Duncan fall over if KG crossed him. I am not saying that Duncan is worse than KG, but KG is a better athlete than Duncan. He can do more than Duncan can but the one thing he cannot do is what Duncan can do at the CENTER position.

The way I see it, the ratings are broken down like this.

100 - 90 Superstar
89 - 80 Franchise type player
79 - 70 Very good player
69 - 60 good player
59 - 50 average player with some good ablilities
49 - 40 below average player but still can get by
39 - 00 bench player

I've been going by a something close to that level rater
100 - 87 Superstar ( I don't think any player should get over 95 at any point in their career)
86 - 78 All-Star
77 - 70 Starter
69 - 61 6th Man
60 - 51 Role Player
50 - 45 Bench Player
44 - 00 Injured Reserve Player

[SuperFlash]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

Someone on the boards had already posted this but I think we need to see it again.


Previous NBA Lives had the rating scale of the players, 50-99. Thus, the superstar players had to be mid to high 90s leaving little room for improvment and most of all, few differences in each player. With the way they have them rated now, 1 - 99, there can be a greater sense of diversity. Each player has his own feel to him which is unique. Granted KG is rated 97 and Tim Duncan is rated 89, but the way the ratings are those are correct. I am baseing this off of a screenshot about scouting players. You had 3 categories to choose from. Offense, Defense, and Athlete. So instead of having seperate ratings for each position, I believe this is how they worked it. I think it is a good thing too since basketball is a type of game you can get away with it. Football would be nearly impossible since some people are so slow, but in basketball, your skills determine what position you play, along with height. KG plays PF because he is strong and can show midrange jumpers very well. Duncan is a great defensive player with an amazing post game. Duncan will back down KG anyday, but with repects, KG would make Duncan fall over if KG crossed him. I am not saying that Duncan is worse than KG, but KG is a better athlete than Duncan. He can do more than Duncan can but the one thing he cannot do is what Duncan can do at the CENTER position.

The way I see it, the ratings are broken down like this.

100 - 90 Superstar
89 - 80 Franchise type player
79 - 70 Very good player
69 - 60 good player
59 - 50 average player with some good ablilities
49 - 40 below average player but still can get by
39 - 00 bench player

I've been going by a something close to that level rater
100 - 87 Superstar ( I don't think any player should get over 95 at any point in their career)
86 - 78 All-Star
77 - 70 Starter
69 - 61 6th Man
60 - 51 Role Player
50 - 45 Bench Player
44 - 00 Injured Reserve Player

[Ofizzle]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

The only thing that bothers me is for playing online, if you update the ratings to be realistic, some people will complain that you're cheating and they want Kirk Hinrich to go back to having a 62 quickness or Brian Cardinal to not be able to shoot at all.

Basketball game ratings always need ratings also because of rookies, so s'all good, it's not like I didn't see it coming that some would be off.

Also about Tim Duncan and KG, people need to stop, all-round play in this game give s a greater rating than position specific play, but the difference isn't really noticable in gameplay. KG having a higher dunk and jump doesn't do that much for you when you're playing, and neither do his higher steal, quickness, speed, passing, and dribble ratings, so who cares.

[Ofizzle]

Re: Can somone please explain the ratings system in Live

The only thing that bothers me is for playing online, if you update the ratings to be realistic, some people will complain that you're cheating and they want Kirk Hinrich to go back to having a 62 quickness or Brian Cardinal to not be able to shoot at all.

Basketball game ratings always need ratings also because of rookies, so s'all good, it's not like I didn't see it coming that some would be off.

Also about Tim Duncan and KG, people need to stop, all-round play in this game give s a greater rating than position specific play, but the difference isn't really noticable in gameplay. KG having a higher dunk and jump doesn't do that much for you when you're playing, and neither do his higher steal, quickness, speed, passing, and dribble ratings, so who cares.