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  • SonicMage
    NBA Ratings Wizard
    • Oct 2002
    • 3544

    #16
    Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

    Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
    Why won't we come up with some logical forumlas for the non objective rating categories on Live. (3pt, fg, steals, etc...........) Because obviously there is no logical way that EA gave this people's ratings.
    I already have eight of the categories figured out and described in detail in some other thread around here. The only thing that makes my ratings more realistic than NBA Live is that they account for playoffs as well as the previous regular season.

    The ratings that do need more adjusting are the ones that you called "subjective", the athleticism categories and such. As one guy pointed out, Eddy Curry should NOT have a higher speed rating than Ben Gordon, thats just nuts. But then again, EA Sports have always had problems rating rookies.
    NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

    Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
    Link to Ratings 1996-2017
    Link to Ratings 1973-1996
    Link to Ratings All-time

    Discussion found here

    Comment

    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #17
      Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

      Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
      Why won't we come up with some logical forumlas for the non objective rating categories on Live. (3pt, fg, steals, etc...........) Because obviously there is no logical way that EA gave this people's ratings.
      I already have eight of the categories figured out and described in detail in some other thread around here. The only thing that makes my ratings more realistic than NBA Live is that they account for playoffs as well as the previous regular season.

      The ratings that do need more adjusting are the ones that you called "subjective", the athleticism categories and such. As one guy pointed out, Eddy Curry should NOT have a higher speed rating than Ben Gordon, thats just nuts. But then again, EA Sports have always had problems rating rookies.
      NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

      Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
      Link to Ratings All-time

      Discussion found here

      Comment

      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #18
        Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

        Originally posted by Sonicmage
        I already have eight of the categories figured out and described in detail in some other thread around here. The only thing that makes my ratings more realistic than NBA Live is that they account for playoffs as well as the previous regular season..
        Things like what, what are the formulas
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • DC
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2002
          • 17996

          #19
          Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

          Originally posted by Sonicmage
          I already have eight of the categories figured out and described in detail in some other thread around here. The only thing that makes my ratings more realistic than NBA Live is that they account for playoffs as well as the previous regular season..
          Things like what, what are the formulas
          Concrete evidence/videos please

          Comment

          • SonicMage
            NBA Ratings Wizard
            • Oct 2002
            • 3544

            #20
            Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
            Things like what, what are the formulas
            NBA Live:

            OFFREB = previous season's Offensive rebounds per minute
            DEFREB = previous season's Defensive rebounds per minute
            PASSING = previous season's Assists per minute
            STEAL = previous season's Steals per minute
            BLOCK = previous season's Blocks per minute
            FATIGUE = previous season's Minutes per game (not exact, but very close)
            FREETHROW = previous season's free throw percentage
            PRIMACY = previous season's shots per minute [(FGA + .44*FTA)/MINUTES] (not exact)

            My ratings are a little bit more realistic than NBA Live's defaults because I also account for the previous year's playoffs, like I said. These changes, though, are usually by only one or two points per rating. If you try these on a player who played less than 300 minutes in the previous season and playoffs combined, these will not work.

            Of course, you would also need my rating tables that convert these stats into
            an actual rating. It took me a while to build them because NBA Live's ratings are not determined linearly. I dont have rating tables that convert for college stats and high school stats yet so it also wont work for rookies.

            There is a disclaimer though. Using the previous year's stats to generate ratings like NBA Live does for some of them is not good for predicting how a player will perform this upcoming season. It just gives a good representation of how a player performed last season. There are no formulas that can determine how a player will perform in the 2004-2005 season until the season is over. This rating generator is, however, excellent for creating historical teams.
            NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

            Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
            Link to Ratings 1996-2017
            Link to Ratings 1973-1996
            Link to Ratings All-time

            Discussion found here

            Comment

            • SonicMage
              NBA Ratings Wizard
              • Oct 2002
              • 3544

              #21
              Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

              Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
              Things like what, what are the formulas
              NBA Live:

              OFFREB = previous season's Offensive rebounds per minute
              DEFREB = previous season's Defensive rebounds per minute
              PASSING = previous season's Assists per minute
              STEAL = previous season's Steals per minute
              BLOCK = previous season's Blocks per minute
              FATIGUE = previous season's Minutes per game (not exact, but very close)
              FREETHROW = previous season's free throw percentage
              PRIMACY = previous season's shots per minute [(FGA + .44*FTA)/MINUTES] (not exact)

              My ratings are a little bit more realistic than NBA Live's defaults because I also account for the previous year's playoffs, like I said. These changes, though, are usually by only one or two points per rating. If you try these on a player who played less than 300 minutes in the previous season and playoffs combined, these will not work.

              Of course, you would also need my rating tables that convert these stats into
              an actual rating. It took me a while to build them because NBA Live's ratings are not determined linearly. I dont have rating tables that convert for college stats and high school stats yet so it also wont work for rookies.

              There is a disclaimer though. Using the previous year's stats to generate ratings like NBA Live does for some of them is not good for predicting how a player will perform this upcoming season. It just gives a good representation of how a player performed last season. There are no formulas that can determine how a player will perform in the 2004-2005 season until the season is over. This rating generator is, however, excellent for creating historical teams.
              NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

              Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
              Link to Ratings 1996-2017
              Link to Ratings 1973-1996
              Link to Ratings All-time

              Discussion found here

              Comment

              • RoyalBoyle78
                Aka."Footballforever"
                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #22
                Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                Im not editing any of the players, I'm leaving all as is. They will earn the ratings while I'll play.
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                • RoyalBoyle78
                  Aka."Footballforever"
                  • May 2003
                  • 23918

                  #23
                  Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                  Im not editing any of the players, I'm leaving all as is. They will earn the ratings while I'll play.
                  N.Y Mets
                  N.Y Giants
                  N.Y Knicks
                  N.Y Islanders
                  Miami Hurricanes


                  Twitter - @RoyalBoyle78
                  XBOX LIVE - Royalboyle78
                  PSN - RoyalBoyle78

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                  • keithpetty
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 90

                    #24
                    Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                    i will lnot be editing any players on nba live 2005 when i get it for the first 2 weeks. i will wait to the 2004-2005 nba season starts to do all of that stuff.

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                    • keithpetty
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 90

                      #25
                      Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                      i will lnot be editing any players on nba live 2005 when i get it for the first 2 weeks. i will wait to the 2004-2005 nba season starts to do all of that stuff.

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #26
                        Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                        Yea I was saying that as well
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • DC
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 17996

                          #27
                          Re: Since We Already Know We Will Be Doing Alot Of Editing...........

                          Yea I was saying that as well
                          Concrete evidence/videos please

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