The Lead Pass Explained

[bats26]

Lead Passes aren't random. it just depends on the situation.

If there are defenders already in the lanes , the passer won't throw a lead pass. Even if they're not directly blocking the receiver's path and there still is space to run.
This is still realistic. why would you throw a lead pass, when there's a defender waiting at the other end? They can even try to run and intercept the ball just like in football. that's why the passer just throws a safe pass the receiver catches it safely by facing the ball.


If there are no defenders on the other end, the passer gets to throw a lead pass depending on the who's going to receive it.The receiver has to have ball handling skills for this to happen.

you can't just throw a lead pass to a stiff in real life. they would just end up losing the ball. This is why some even try to stop, jump and catch the ball.


When the lanes are open, Kobe and Odom always does a running catch . I was even able to do a two-pass fast break smoothly. Grant threw a lead pass to Odom, then Odom threw a lead pass to Kobe. both of them did running catches. a super fast 2 second fastbreak!

[bball_1523]

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those who are in the nba should know how to catch a lead pass correctly without jumping up and catching then wasting valuable time so that the cpu can catch up. It's still not good if you ask me. I've tried passing to the most open person and he still jumped and caught. If they jump they should at least not waste 23094823 days trying to have possession of the ball.

[bball_1523]

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those who are in the nba should know how to catch a lead pass correctly without jumping up and catching then wasting valuable time so that the cpu can catch up. It's still not good if you ask me. I've tried passing to the most open person and he still jumped and caught. If they jump they should at least not waste 23094823 days trying to have possession of the ball.

[bats26]

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^^
another explanation for the "jumping to catch" animation is that MAYBE the pass was strong and over the head of the player. he had to jump to catch it. blame it on the passer! hehehe. but i'm serious. i've seen that a couple of times in real life especially if it's a very long pass.

We're even lucky in NBA Live coz we still get to catch the errant pass instead of just a turnover!

It's NBA Live's way of telling us that you have to be conservative when throwing outlet passes. not everyone can pass on point like jason kidd.
You can't just go into fast break mode after every rebound.

[bats26]

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^^
another explanation for the "jumping to catch" animation is that MAYBE the pass was strong and over the head of the player. he had to jump to catch it. blame it on the passer! hehehe. but i'm serious. i've seen that a couple of times in real life especially if it's a very long pass.

We're even lucky in NBA Live coz we still get to catch the errant pass instead of just a turnover!

It's NBA Live's way of telling us that you have to be conservative when throwing outlet passes. not everyone can pass on point like jason kidd.
You can't just go into fast break mode after every rebound.

[bigeastbumrush]

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not everyone can pass on point like jason kidd,.

Yeah and not every basketball player can catch passes over their shoulder like Jerry Rice.

I haven't found a problem with passing, catching or fastbreaks using Pared's sliders. If anything, I have gotten more breaks because for some reason the CPU doesn't get back on defense at times. I don't know if it's fatigue or what but I've had a lot of clear lanes to the hoop on fastbreaks.

[bigeastbumrush]

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not everyone can pass on point like jason kidd,.

Yeah and not every basketball player can catch passes over their shoulder like Jerry Rice.

I haven't found a problem with passing, catching or fastbreaks using Pared's sliders. If anything, I have gotten more breaks because for some reason the CPU doesn't get back on defense at times. I don't know if it's fatigue or what but I've had a lot of clear lanes to the hoop on fastbreaks.

[bats26]

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^^ YEah! Running at full NBA speed while trying to catch a fast lead pass is hard. And unlike football, you still have to dribble the ball once you catch it!

[bats26]

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^^ YEah! Running at full NBA speed while trying to catch a fast lead pass is hard. And unlike football, you still have to dribble the ball once you catch it!

[durvasa]

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Actually, I just had a game where I threw a lead pass to Yao Ming.

There's one situation where you'll always throw a lead pass and that's off a steal. If you get a steal and throw the ball up ahead, as long as there isn't a player directly in front of the recipient he'll catch it in stride. From that point, if you keep throwing forward passes to teammates when there isn't a defender directly in front of them, I believe they will continue to catch it in stride. You simply can't throw a pass to players behind you or it won't work.

I believe it works *some of the time* after blocking a shot and recovering the loose ball. I even once got a fast break with lead passes off a rebound before. But I can only remember this happening once.

[durvasa]

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Actually, I just had a game where I threw a lead pass to Yao Ming.

There's one situation where you'll always throw a lead pass and that's off a steal. If you get a steal and throw the ball up ahead, as long as there isn't a player directly in front of the recipient he'll catch it in stride. From that point, if you keep throwing forward passes to teammates when there isn't a defender directly in front of them, I believe they will continue to catch it in stride. You simply can't throw a pass to players behind you or it won't work.

I believe it works *some of the time* after blocking a shot and recovering the loose ball. I even once got a fast break with lead passes off a rebound before. But I can only remember this happening once.

[bigeastbumrush]

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^^ YEah! Running at full NBA speed while trying to catch a fast lead pass is hard. And unlike football, you still have to dribble the ball once you catch it!

Exactly.

How many times do you see NBA players catching a pass over their head on the run for a fastbreak? Never. It would probably result in a collision (because you're not looking forward, you're looking over your head) or a travel (because you have to catch & dribble).

I think Live takes into account players turning to catch the ball and then running forward. No one really runs in a straight line and catches passes in full stride without turning their body back to the ball.

Could it be done smoother? Of course. But it is what it is.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: The Lead Pass Explained

^^ YEah! Running at full NBA speed while trying to catch a fast lead pass is hard. And unlike football, you still have to dribble the ball once you catch it!

Exactly.

How many times do you see NBA players catching a pass over their head on the run for a fastbreak? Never. It would probably result in a collision (because you're not looking forward, you're looking over your head) or a travel (because you have to catch & dribble).

I think Live takes into account players turning to catch the ball and then running forward. No one really runs in a straight line and catches passes in full stride without turning their body back to the ball.

Could it be done smoother? Of course. But it is what it is.

[bball_1523]

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can I throw the pass ahead of my player with lead pass? what if my player is wide open and has a wide open lane to the hoop? It's happened before and I threw a pass but he caught the ball then took a couple seconds to gather his grip, and the cpu caught up by then.

You know even the lead pass is ineffective sometimes because the cpu still turns into a superhuman and speeds up to your guy. Not all the time, but sometimes I've noticed it and it's very unrealistic and ruins the game at times. The game isn't that bad though, it's playable.

[bball_1523]

Re: The Lead Pass Explained

can I throw the pass ahead of my player with lead pass? what if my player is wide open and has a wide open lane to the hoop? It's happened before and I threw a pass but he caught the ball then took a couple seconds to gather his grip, and the cpu caught up by then.

You know even the lead pass is ineffective sometimes because the cpu still turns into a superhuman and speeds up to your guy. Not all the time, but sometimes I've noticed it and it's very unrealistic and ruins the game at times. The game isn't that bad though, it's playable.