Should I do this trade? part 3,257

[SoldierSooner]

Im in year two of my clippers dynasty. I am playing with the rosters from the official roster update. Shaun Livingston isnt doing too good. I traded away Elton Brand in year one to create cap space. here is my current roster.
Starting 5:
C-Chris Kaman (60 ovr)
PF- Marcus Fizer (62 ovr) [acquired via free agency b/c of the Elton Brand deal..lol]
SF- Corey Maggette (80 ovr)
SG- Josh Howard (75 ovr) [acquired in Elton Brand trade]
PG- Shaun Livingston (68 ovr)
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Bench:
SF - Marquis Daniels (68 ovr) [acquired in Elton Brand trade]
PG - Tyronn Lue (59 ovr)
PG - Marko Jaric (62 ovr)
SG - Keith Bogans (60 ovr)
PF - Chris Wilcox (58 ovr)
C - Theo Ratliff (60 ovr)
SF - Bobby Simmons (59 ovr)
C - Lamar Ashe (57 ovr) [drafted rookie]

ok...Livingston is sucking it up...he isnt too fast and he cannot shoot...and I need help down low too.
so here is the trade

Clippers get:
PG - TJ Ford (62 ovr)
PF - Keith Van Horn (71 ovr)
SG - Deshawn Stevenson (60 ovr)
Bucks get:
PG- Shaun Livingston (68 ovr)
PG - Tyronn Lue (59 ovr)
PG - Mark Jaric (62 ovr)


Bogans can play backup PG, and I still have cap space to sign another pg if needed. Travis Best is available for the money i have left

now I tried this trade and the bucks accepted, then I turned off my ps2 w/o saving b/c i wasnt exactly sure that I wanted to do this. What do you guys think? I do play every single game and right now I am 7-3, with horrible post play and horrible play out of Livingston. Do I let him progress? or do I get help down low w/ Van Horn and also let TJ Ford progess on my team?

[pnoyMESSIAH]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

i dont think you should go thru with the trade as your looking for help down low.. van horn isnt gonna give you too much there, hes more of a SF than a PF... if ur looking for what u lost in brand, then look elsewhere

[pnoyMESSIAH]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

i dont think you should go thru with the trade as your looking for help down low.. van horn isnt gonna give you too much there, hes more of a SF than a PF... if ur looking for what u lost in brand, then look elsewhere

[SonicMage]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

What on God's green earth would make the Bucks accept this deal?

I could see if you had Wilcox added in instead of Lue, maybe. Youre still taking away one of their top vets in Van Horn and not giving any proven ones back. A real team I think would laugh this one off. You have to give a little to get a little.

[SonicMage]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

What on God's green earth would make the Bucks accept this deal?

I could see if you had Wilcox added in instead of Lue, maybe. Youre still taking away one of their top vets in Van Horn and not giving any proven ones back. A real team I think would laugh this one off. You have to give a little to get a little.

[SoldierSooner]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

actually i made a mistake, it was Theo Ratliff, not Marko Jaric in which i was able to get it to go through..

[SoldierSooner]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

actually i made a mistake, it was Theo Ratliff, not Marko Jaric in which i was able to get it to go through..

[dieselboy]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

actually i made a mistake, it was Theo Ratliff, not Marko Jaric in which i was able to get it to go through..

Theo Ratliff is rated a 60?!? This game is awful...

I wouldn't make the trade. Let Livingston develop, and keep powder off your team.

[dieselboy]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

actually i made a mistake, it was Theo Ratliff, not Marko Jaric in which i was able to get it to go through..

Theo Ratliff is rated a 60?!? This game is awful...

I wouldn't make the trade. Let Livingston develop, and keep powder off your team.

[Ofizzle]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

Theo really isn't that good, he's a decent rebounder, amazing shot blocker, and can score about 10 points, but that's about all.

[Ofizzle]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

Theo really isn't that good, he's a decent rebounder, amazing shot blocker, and can score about 10 points, but that's about all.

[JohnnyWoodcock]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

if you need help down low i wouldn't do it. theo huxtable is better in the post than anyone you're getting back.

i like tj ford though, so i would probably do the deal. does this affect the cap at all? ie-shorter contracts.

[JohnnyWoodcock]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

if you need help down low i wouldn't do it. theo huxtable is better in the post than anyone you're getting back.

i like tj ford though, so i would probably do the deal. does this affect the cap at all? ie-shorter contracts.

[SoldierSooner]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

I guess the virtual Shaun Livingston heard talk of trade rumors from me b/c my last game against the jazz he was actually hitting shots! 19 pts, 8 Assists, 3 steals. Im gonna really wait til "februrary" on the game before I do anything with Shaun...atleast give him a chance. and Fizer is alright in the post, and Kaman is the man, never ever trade him for anyone...after 11 games he is averaging 12.5 points 10.7 boards and 2.8 blocks. and i am lighting it up w/ Maggette..the main reason im 8 and 3 is b/c of him..I put up 47 against phoenix and 38 against the knicks w/ maggette. anyway didnt mean to go off on a rant. thanx for everyones input...livingston stays!

[SoldierSooner]

Re: Should I do this trade? part 3,257

I guess the virtual Shaun Livingston heard talk of trade rumors from me b/c my last game against the jazz he was actually hitting shots! 19 pts, 8 Assists, 3 steals. Im gonna really wait til "februrary" on the game before I do anything with Shaun...atleast give him a chance. and Fizer is alright in the post, and Kaman is the man, never ever trade him for anyone...after 11 games he is averaging 12.5 points 10.7 boards and 2.8 blocks. and i am lighting it up w/ Maggette..the main reason im 8 and 3 is b/c of him..I put up 47 against phoenix and 38 against the knicks w/ maggette. anyway didnt mean to go off on a rant. thanx for everyones input...livingston stays!