NBA Live 18 Videos Released

[nuttyrich]

Wow awkward movement.. looks very canned, very STIFF, After all this time 30 second trailer that looks "nice"..sorry was ready to be blown away.. I'm sure many feel the same. I noticed the guy kept saying the "gameplay LOOKS wonderful".. but never said how the GAME PLAYED which is ALL that matters.

C'mon EA, come through... so we can have two games to look forward to! Lets go!

[ataman5]

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Like what I am hearing, only because you have been nothing but transparent in the past.

I will say again, totally didn't expect all wonky animations to be gone this year. As long as positive progress continues on the animation front and can see that they are getting on the right track, then I will be happy.

I believe i've read or heard somewhere back in time that EA is adding, adjusting, deleting animations thru the year with Live 16 i believe they did something like that so as long as they are aware and working on them, i believe this can be good in the progress, we'll see.

[pslieber]

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Because EA marketing, lol

I have no clue, and have no clue how many will remain this year, etc. I made a list of the ones that I didn't like, which included plenty, and which ones were good out of the prior years, which were few. Most of the new stuff is really nicely done, and specifically contact around the paint, etc is dope. And the sig shot stuff, I can't wait for them to talk about it. It's some of my favorite tech.

Amen. And any teaser video this early in the game is likely showcasing an engine versus playability. Noting and hoping - as you said - many flaws will be patched for Day 1 release.

But yes, marketing people have no clue what actual gamers are looking for. I've covered UFC launch events before, and the disconnect is glaringly obvious. Their marketing peeps are often contract/external, mind you.

With this being said, I'd be thrilled with an upgrade over 16. 2K is a beautiful game, but the pacing just isn't for me. It's the same reason I prefer PES over FIFA.

I hope EA gets this one 'right.'

[BDM313]

Gotta see some 5 on 5 gameplay the animations still got that same stiff look like retro live games...

[bigeastbumrush]

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Because EA marketing, lol

I have no clue, and have no clue how many will remain this year, etc. I made a list of the ones that I didn't like, which included plenty, and which ones were good out of the prior years, which were few. Most of the new stuff is really nicely done, and specifically contact around the paint, etc is dope. And the sig shot stuff, I can't wait for them to talk about it. It's some of my favorite tech.

We're smarter than this.

A marketing department slaps lipstick on a pig meaning they take from what will draw the most attention and publish it for the masses. They would never intentionally release bad footage. Let's face it..this was the best stuff they could find.

I don't care how many carryover animations they scrap. It won't be enough because that sig animation of Harden is what they chose to feature...and it looks like crap.

New tech means absolutely nothing if it cannot animate fluidly. You cannot hide animations when there are only 10 players on a court.

What is the point of releasing yet another game that can't even get the barebones right?

And who are the yes men working there telling each other that this nonsense is acceptable in 2017?

[Playmakers]

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We're smarter than this.

A marketing department slaps lipstick on a pig meaning they take from what will draw the most attention and publish it for the masses. They would never intentionally release bad footage. Let's face it..this was the best stuff they could find.

I don't care how many carryover animations they scrap. It won't be enough because that sig animation of Harden is what they chose to feature...and it looks like crap.

New tech means absolutely nothing if it cannot animate fluidly. You cannot hide animations when there are only 10 players on a court.

What is the point of releasing yet another game that can't even get the barebones right?

And who are the yes men working there telling each other that this nonsense is acceptable in 2017?

Preach on brother

I hate to be negative poster towards Live but at what point will we just get a game that provides animations which resemble that of true NBA ballers?

Seems like there's always something that doesn't get done right with Live when it comes to movement.

[TecmoZack]

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We're smarter than this.



A marketing department slaps lipstick on a pig meaning they take from what will draw the most attention and publish it for the masses. They would never intentionally release bad footage. Let's face it..this was the best stuff they could find.



I don't care how many carryover animations they scrap. It won't be enough because that sig animation of Harden is what they chose to feature...and it looks like crap.



New tech means absolutely nothing if it cannot animate fluidly. You cannot hide animations when there are only 10 players on a court.



What is the point of releasing yet another game that can't even get the barebones right?



And who are the yes men working there telling each other that this nonsense is acceptable in 2017?

Opinion. That is yours. I love Live 16. Still play it. I own the other game too. I enjoy basketball and am excited to play 18. No need to talk down on or hate on anyone. I'm sure the people making the game work plenty hard.

I think the new tech will be huge. It's an exciting time to be a basketball video game fan.


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[FerdBrown]

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We're smarter than this.



A marketing department slaps lipstick on a pig meaning they take from what will draw the most attention and publish it for the masses. They would never intentionally release bad footage. Let's face it..this was the best stuff they could find.



I don't care how many carryover animations they scrap. It won't be enough because that sig animation of Harden is what they chose to feature...and it looks like crap.



New tech means absolutely nothing if it cannot animate fluidly. You cannot hide animations when there are only 10 players on a court.



What is the point of releasing yet another game that can't even get the barebones right?



And who are the yes men working there telling each other that this nonsense is acceptable in 2017?

But the game hasn't been released yet, mate.

[noshun]

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But the game hasn't been released yet, mate.

But EA put of that video. They think it looks great otherwise EA wouldn't have put it out there. All that video confirmed to me is that they still are cutting corners. How in the world do you take 2 years off, and try to put mocap on top of/blend in with a base of bad spastic animations?
Your quote entitles them to keep making excuses, and your quote is an excuse itself. It screams the "SLA" (struggle Live apologists) acceptance of mediocrity.

[FerdBrown]

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But EA put of that video. They think it looks great otherwise EA wouldn't have put it out there. All that video confirmed to me is that they still are cutting corners. How in the world do you take 2 years off, and try to put mocap on top of/blend in with a base of bad spastic animations?

Your quote entitles them to keep making excuses, and your quote is an excuse itself. It screams the "SLA" (struggle Live apologists) acceptance of mediocrity.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong!

My quote matey says I'll hold my judgment until I buy the product. That's informed decision making for me.

I prefer not to pepper the forum with negativity. It's not the vibe I want to carry in my head as I do my real job.

[TecmoZack]

NBA Live 18 Videos Released

But EA put of that video. They think it looks great otherwise EA wouldn't have put it out there. All that video confirmed to me is that they still are cutting corners. How in the world do you take 2 years off, and try to put mocap on top of/blend in with a base of bad spastic animations?

Your quote entitles them to keep making excuses, and your quote is an excuse itself. It screams the "SLA" (struggle Live apologists) acceptance of mediocrity.

Dude. People like what they like. I understand if your opinion is not high on a product. That does not mean everyone will have the same opinion.


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[noshun]

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I see the point I made flew over both of your heads. Who's being negative when I and others are pointing out an issue that has been a Live legacy issue going all the way back to PS2 days? You're confusing critique with negativity. Case in point how you say nothing about this:

I have no clue, and have no clue how many will remain this year, etc. I made a list of the ones that I didn't like, which included plenty, and which ones were good out of the prior years, which were few.

Will is clearly stating Legacy issues.. but you don't say Will's being negative. Selective post jumping in excuse favor of Live runs rampant on these forums.. Its a reason the devs wrote a blog not understanding the reaction the game received, and why sales were the lowest for the series ever..

[TecmoZack]

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I see the point I made flew over both of your heads. Who's being negative when I and others are pointing out an issue that has been a Live legacy issue going all the way back to PS2 days? You're confusing critique with negativity. Case in point how you say nothing about this:





Will is clearly stating Legacy issues.. but you don't say Will's being negative. Selective post jumping in excuse favor of Live runs rampant on these forums.. Its a reason the devs wrote a blog not understanding the reaction the game received, and why sales were the lowest for the series ever..

Nothing flew over anyone's head. You called individuals that want the game to succeed SLA's. I'm not calling you a LH. WTF has played the game. He has seen it. He commented about how he can't wait to talk about the tech and how he likes it.

Saying you don't like something is fine. Just did not like the way you did it. Anywho....I'm pumped for EA play.


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[jadert]

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I see the point I made flew over both of your heads. Who's being negative when I and others are pointing out an issue that has been a Live legacy issue going all the way back to PS2 days? You're confusing critique with negativity. Case in point how you say nothing about this:





Will is clearly stating Legacy issues.. but you don't say Will's being negative. Selective post jumping in excuse favor of Live runs rampant on these forums.. Its a reason the devs wrote a blog not understanding the reaction the game received, and why sales were the lowest for the series ever..

You're wasting your time. Some guys just won't get it. Not after embarrassing sales, not after low reviews, not after obscurity, etc. Some people will continue to get excited over very barebones stuff and think that Live will be making a comeback. The common response is that its "your opinion". Yeah, and 5 million others that chose to buy ANOTHER game that also has many flaws. Thats a pretty strong opinion.

[Nemesis Enforcer]

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Don't waste your time with these fools that only come here pre-release. You may be a respected poster but not this forum when every year it's this game is trash, animations are crap without actually playing the final product or making constructive criticism in the vids/feedback/glitches thread with actual vids of the things you dislike in the current game.

At least wtf and others actually play the game and give viable avenues on this board for gameplay changes.