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  • 33JAF
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    • Aug 2016
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    #91
    Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

    Originally posted by 23
    This is the worst line of thinking ever.

    Anytime you have less options its not worth it.

    This game needs to do more than just focus on what 2k is not doing right...because they do A LOT right.

    You can't compete with a franchise who puts out a complete game each year while you keep saying we're hearing you and working on it and NEVER do it.

    Its way below standards of todays games in general to be missing core features year after year for no reason at all.
    Because I feel different than you, I have the worst line of thinking...ever?

    Do you realize that some people have a different perspective than you?

    Your priorities aren't mine. I am excited for this game.

    I just want to have fun playing a basketball video game..but I have the "worst line of thinking ever"...ok.
    Last edited by 33JAF; 06-23-2017, 12:57 AM.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #92
      Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

      Originally posted by 33JAF
      Because I feel different than you, I have the worst line of thinking...ever?

      Do you realize that some people have a different perspective than you?

      Your priorities aren't mine. I am excited for this game.

      I just want to have fun playing a basketball video game..but I have the "worst line of thinking ever"...ok.

      Any thinking that fewer options is okay is definitely bad, especially in this day and age and especially relating that thinking to a company badly in need of more options.

      I have no issue with you thinking differently than me but some of you guys accept too little and keep this series as a low expectation game.

      It does nothing but fester that "you aint got that either, thats cool" attitude.

      This has nothing to do with you being excited to play this game.

      I guess there is just some here who just dont care if this series does better or not, as long as its something to play.

      That's fine too I guess but I feel like that's what they've listened to in the past far too much that led to nowhere.

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      • PVarck31
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        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #93
        Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

        Originally posted by 23
        Any thinking that fewer options is okay is definitely bad, especially in this day and age and especially relating that thinking to a company badly in need of more options.

        I have no issue with you thinking differently than me but some of you guys accept too little and keep this series as a low expectation game.

        It does nothing but fester that "you aint got that either, thats cool" attitude.

        This has nothing to do with you being excited to play this game.

        I guess there is just some here who just dont care if this series does better or not, as long as its something to play.

        That's fine too I guess but I feel like that's what they've listened to in the past far too much that led to nowhere.
        Where does he say having fewer options is ok? All he is saying is that he will get the game if there is no roster editing. For him, if the game plays well and he likes it then he is ok with no editing this year. And he actually never even said he was ok with no editing.

        And why wouldn't Live try to focus on getting things right that 2K doesn't. They seem to be doing just that with the new dribble techniques and on ball defensive controls. Giving the user more control is their focus and personally I love that they are going for that.

        I don't understand what you want people to do. The game isn't even out yet and you're accusing people of not caring if the series does better or not. As long as they have something to play? That's ridiculous. I'm sure when everyone gets to play it there will be a ton of constructive criticism.

        And if you're talking about how we shouldn't accept no editing, they know we want that. WTF basically said he shouted from the rooftops about it. And said the devs really want it in too. Again, what more do you want?

        It seems like you take issue with anyone who says positive stuff about the game.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #94
          Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

          Originally posted by PVarck31
          Where does he say having fewer options is ok? All he is saying is that he will get the game if there is no roster editing. For him, if the game plays well and he likes it then he is ok with no editing this year. And he actually never even said he was ok with no editing.

          And why wouldn't Live try to focus on getting things right that 2K doesn't. They seem to be doing just that with the new dribble techniques and on ball defensive controls. Giving the user more control is their focus and personally I love that they are going for that.

          I don't understand what you want people to do. The game isn't even out yet and you're accusing people of not caring if the series does better or not. As long as they have something to play? That's ridiculous. I'm sure when everyone gets to play it there will be a ton of constructive criticism.

          And if you're talking about how we shouldn't accept no editing, they know we want that. WTF basically said he shouted from the rooftops about it. And said the devs really want it in too. Again, what more do you want?

          It seems like you take issue with anyone who says positive stuff about the game.
          Tell me how not having standard options is a blessing in disguise?

          Thats where he said it. Thats makes zero sense whatsoever.

          Please dont play the say positive about the game card on me. I point out good and bad for any game i play period, especially basketball.

          It has absolutely nothing with liking the game or not. I said plenty positive but I'm not going to play ostrich.

          I could care less if he likes the game or not really it was never about that. I played at EA play not just watched videos. I enjoyed it some too but i also see some long standing issues on the same front and the last thing EA needs is the fans continuing to say its cool when its not cool.

          The reason Lives focus shouldnt be just looking at what 2k is not doing only is because 2k does way more things right. They have a formula contrary to people coming here saying otherwise the game has grown into a juggernaut for a reason but that's another story.

          The problem is they keep ignoring basic stuff.

          People have been talking about editing since Live 14 and with delays cancellations whatever its still not there. Thats not by accident..

          As far as WTF, i appreciate anyone telling ea the real but let's be honest....and this is nothing against him.

          For the fact that he has to go yelling to the rooftop about standard basic baseline modern floor level things means there is a big problem with them still being out of touch with the community.

          Some things at this point should go without saying. Franchise hasnt been touched since this game came to the 360/ps3 and its still a backend deal.

          Thats incredible man but every year he's yelling and theyre listening and you see people are still begging for old baseline basic tenets of gaming.

          But its cool probably just a blessing in disguise.

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          • PVarck31
            Moderator
            • Jan 2003
            • 16869

            #95
            Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

            I'm not gonna quote your long post, 23. But you seem to be really annoyed with anyone who says they like what they are seeing and that they are not criticizing the game.

            I think it's well known that 2K has a superior feature set. 2K has been around consistently forever basically.

            NBA Live is rebooting. (I know, again, and that's not good I get that.) But the reality of the situation is that they have to play catch up and yes that is their fault, but at some point we have to let that go and support what they are trying to accomplish now.

            We all know they haven't put out a playable product since Live 10. But aren't we supposed to let them try to get everything on track?

            They can't just add everything 2K has and make every mode super deep in one version of the game. Unfortunately they had to build a solid foundation first.

            It just seems like you expect this game to have a dearth of features and deep customization when the reality of the situation is that simply isn't possible for a game that is basically a complete reboot.

            If you don't want to give them time to build on the foundation then fine. But other want to support it .

            So yeah man, that's about all I got. I don't want to get into a long drawn out argument with you because we seem to have some very contrasting opinions about the game. So it would probably be pointless.

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            • dubcity
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              #96
              Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

              They don't want you to have updated rosters on offline after the playoffs are over because they want Ultimate Team to be the only mode to hold it's value in the off-season and (particularly) when the next game in the series comes out.

              This would be the type of game I might buy 6-8 months after release, when it's on sale, but not if it's shelf life is going to be intentionally shortened by not allowing roster sharing/editing.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #97
                Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                Originally posted by PVarck31
                I'm not gonna quote your long post, 23. But you seem to be really annoyed with anyone who says they like what they are seeing and that they are not criticizing the game.

                I think it's well known that 2K has a superior feature set. 2K has been around consistently forever basically.

                NBA Live is rebooting. (I know, again, and that's not good I get that.) But the reality of the situation is that they have to play catch up and yes that is their fault, but at some point we have to let that go and support what they are trying to accomplish now.

                We all know they haven't put out a playable product since Live 10. But aren't we supposed to let them try to get everything on track?

                They can't just add everything 2K has and make every mode super deep in one version of the game. Unfortunately they had to build a solid foundation first.

                It just seems like you expect this game to have a dearth of features and deep customization when the reality of the situation is that simply isn't possible for a game that is basically a complete reboot.

                If you don't want to give them time to build on the foundation then fine. But other want to support it .

                So yeah man, that's about all I got. I don't want to get into a long drawn out argument with you because we seem to have some very contrasting opinions about the game. So it would probably be pointless.
                And I'm going to say it once more. Please dont preference what I'm saying about liking the game or not.

                That's a cop out man. You're creating a red herring argument I'm not even making.

                I never said i hated the game first of all and if you can find that post since my EA Play experience then feel free to show me some proof.

                I'm not cool with you throwing accusations and making these assumptions because i said him being cool with no having option is okay.

                When you asked me i just pointed it out to you which tells me you completely missed him saying that and you still didnt adress it.

                I never addressed him liking the game in the first place. I'm getting the game and made that known long time ago.. .but again that has nothing to do with what i said.


                This has nothing to do with 2k. Having roster editing has been in games period since forever. Reboot or not its a shame that this same thread has been started for 3 years in a row now with no real answer as to why something so basic that has been in every single sports game since nintendo 64 is not present.

                NBA Live has had all of the excuses in the world man, and the customer base has gone ghost.

                You dont get them back by giving mediocre feedback and half doing the job.

                I pop in Live 16 and see how people who bought the game including me were lied to about roster updates. Players who were traded well over a year ago are still on their old teams and you can't do anything about it.

                That makes the game unplayable and deflates the customer base dont you get it?

                But even with that, okay roster editing its not there but just flat out calling it okay, I'm sorry i just disagree with that wholeheartedly.

                Ive said nothing about it the last 2 years just watched. Its still the same old thing once again. We can pretend I'm the issue for pointing it out until they send another apology letter because they cant figure out why the momentum is slow.

                My dude Playmakers who has been an avid live fan forever like before most of these guys were around, before live 10 and beyond is crushed every year because of it and theyve lost a ton of guys just like him for what some of you guys wave off as some petty theyll get to it later thing. Its sad

                You seem stuck on this positive negative thing instead of looking at the big picture.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #98
                  Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                  Originally posted by dubcity
                  They don't want you to have updated rosters on offline after the playoffs are over because they want Ultimate Team to be the only mode to hold it's value in the off-season and (particularly) when the next game in the series comes out.

                  This would be the type of game I might buy 6-8 months after release, when it's on sale, but not if it's shelf life is going to be intentionally shortened by not allowing roster sharing/editing.
                  This is what I'm trying to tell them. They're shooting themselves in the foot every time.

                  This is the mindstate of those millions of basketball players out there they'll never get.

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                  • PVarck31
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16869

                    #99
                    Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                    Originally posted by 23
                    And I'm going to say it once more. Please dont preference what I'm saying about liking the game or not.

                    That's a cop out man. You're creating a red herring argument I'm not even making.

                    I never said i hated the game first of all and if you can find that post since my EA Play experience then feel free to show me some proof.

                    I'm not cool with you throwing accusations and making these assumptions because i said him being cool with no having option is okay.

                    When you asked me i just pointed it out to you which tells me you completely missed him saying that and you still didnt adress it.

                    I never addressed him liking the game in the first place. I'm getting the game and made that known long time ago.. .but again that has nothing to do with what i said.


                    This has nothing to do with 2k. Having roster editing has been in games period since forever. Reboot or not its a shame that this same thread has been started for 3 years in a row now with no real answer as to why something so basic that has been in every single sports game since nintendo 64 is not present.

                    NBA Live has had all of the excuses in the world man, and the customer base has gone ghost.

                    You dont get them back by giving mediocre feedback and half doing the job.

                    I pop in Live 16 and see how people who bought the game including me were lied to about roster updates. Players who were traded well over a year ago are still on their old teams and you can't do anything about it.

                    That makes the game unplayable and deflates the customer base dont you get it?

                    But even with that, okay roster editing its not there but just flat out calling it okay, I'm sorry i just disagree with that wholeheartedly.

                    Ive said nothing about it the last 2 years just watched. Its still the same old thing once again. We can pretend I'm the issue for pointing it out until they send another apology letter because they cant figure out why the momentum is slow.

                    My dude Playmakers who has been an avid live fan forever like before most of these guys were around, before live 10 and beyond is crushed every year because of it and theyve lost a ton of guys just like him for what some of you guys wave off as some petty theyll get to it later thing. Its sad

                    You seem stuck on this positive negative thing instead of looking at the big picture.
                    I'm tired so this is gonna be the last post I make tonight.

                    Like I said, not gonna argue. I guess I don't get it and I guess I'm just one of the people who don't care and just want something to play.

                    I'm pushing 40 and I just want a good basketball game to play. And from what I've seen this game looks to be a massive improvement over 16. If it's not, and the game is ****, then so be it. I won't lose any sleep over it. I can accept the fact there is no roster editing. I'm sorry if that bothers you. I just don't have the time or energy fight that. I really don't care anymore to fight for things that should or shouldn't be in the game. I'm at the stage of my life where if I like a game I play it and if I don't then I don't.
                    Last edited by PVarck31; 06-23-2017, 04:50 AM.

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #100
                      Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                      Originally posted by PVarck31
                      I'm tired so this is gonna be the last post I make tonight.

                      Like I said, not gonna argue. I guess I don't get it and I guess I'm just one of the people who don't care and just want something to play.

                      I'm pushing 40 and I just want a good basketball game to play. And from what I've seen this game looks to be a massive improvement over 16. If it's not, and the game is ****, then so be it. I won't lose any sleep over it. I can accept the fact there is no roster editing. I'm sorry if that bothers you. I just don't have the time or energy fight that. I really don't care anymore to fight for things that should or shouldn't be in the game. I'm at the stage of my life where if I like a game I play it and if I don't then I don't.
                      Dude then why are you in a thread that is literally asking if the game has roster editing this year asking me why I want it?

                      That makes no sense.

                      This has nothing to do with age or anything else but roster editing.

                      When someone said it's probably for the better that it's not there, I disagreed and explained why it's not cool when I'm seeing that people have been literally asking for it for years and many of them skip the game altogether.

                      You proceeded to tell me I'm asking for a derth of features and shouldn't expect it because they're rebuilding when in truth it's intentional.

                      Honestly I have no idea what your point is in this thread because you're not here to talk about roster editing at all.
                      Last edited by 23; 06-23-2017, 05:08 AM.

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                      • PVarck31
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16869

                        #101
                        Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                        Originally posted by 23
                        Dude then why are you in a thread that is literally asking if the game has roster editing this year asking me why I want it?

                        That makes no sense.

                        This has nothing to do with age or anything else but roster editing.

                        When someone said it's probably for the better that it's not there, I disagreed and explained why it's not cool when people have been literally asking for it for years

                        You proceeded to tell me I'm asking for a derth of features and shouldn't expect it because they're rebuilding when in truth it's intentional.

                        Honestly I have no idea what your point is in this thread because you're not here to talk about roster editing at all.
                        I posted in this thread because I felt you were unfairly criticizing people for being ok with no roster editing. And also to say I would buy it even if it didn't have roster editing. That's my point, and it's about roster editing.

                        And I agree with you. Roster editing should be in the game. But if it isn't then it isn't. I don't care enough to go on and on about it.

                        You keep arguing with me telling me it's not about this or that and I'm done man. I've said my piece.

                        If you want me to say that you win and I lose then fine. You got me. Now let it go please. I'm done.
                        Last edited by PVarck31; 06-23-2017, 05:15 AM.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #102
                          Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                          Originally posted by PVarck31
                          I posted in this thread because I felt you were unfairly criticizing people for being ok with no roster editing. And also to say I would buy it.

                          You keep arguing with me telling me it's not about this or that and I'm done man. I've said my piece.

                          If you want me to say that you win and I lose then fine. You got me. Now let it go please. I'm done.
                          I didn't criticize anyone I said the poor line of thinking accepting mediocrity which has been the case many times is the exact mindstate and feedback they don't need.

                          Don't twist my words or change the subject because you came here and asked me a question and I answered you but you ignored my answer and went on a tangent about expecting too much when

                          Roster editing is not a derth of features as you claimed I was asking for

                          Calling it a rebuild as the reason when in fact it's not at all.



                          And it's silly to try to portray me as a contrarian continually just because I disagree with you.

                          If you're going to jump in going gangbusters then at least keep it real.

                          It's kinda insulting that you just came in slinging mud and expecting me to fall into the shallow arguing about not liking the game.

                          You don't care about roster editing that's fine but obviously there are a ton of people that do and don't want to get screwed over again by false promises.


                          I did nothing won't and I'm not going to let you take the thread away from why there is no roster editing.

                          I actually talked to the devs about it so I do have an opinion and my say on it and no way am I going to allow you to try to come at me like I'm wrong because I don't agree with that guy.

                          That's crazy
                          Last edited by 23; 06-23-2017, 05:24 AM.

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                          • 33JAF
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                            • Aug 2016
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                            #103
                            Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                            @23 I'm gonna leave it at this because you don't seem to understand anything that I said in my first post.

                            I'm not saying roster editing not being in the game is a good thing, man. Obviously it's an essential part of sports games. I'm just saying that for ME, I will buy it this year either way. It may be a blessing in disguise for ME. Not for everyone. For me. You missed the whole point.

                            You're taking this way too seriously. Just because I feel this way doesn't mean I think everyone else should.

                            You have a pretty obvious agenda in these Live threads. Don't respond to this, you'll be blocked shortly.

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                            • 33JAF
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                              • Aug 2016
                              • 474

                              #104
                              Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                              Originally posted by PVarck31
                              I'm tired so this is gonna be the last post I make tonight.

                              Like I said, not gonna argue. I guess I don't get it and I guess I'm just one of the people who don't care and just want something to play.

                              I'm pushing 40 and I just want a good basketball game to play. And from what I've seen this game looks to be a massive improvement over 16. If it's not, and the game is ****, then so be it. I won't lose any sleep over it. I can accept the fact there is no roster editing. I'm sorry if that bothers you. I just don't have the time or energy fight that. I really don't care anymore to fight for things that should or shouldn't be in the game. I'm at the stage of my life where if I like a game I play it and if I don't then I don't.
                              This is exactly how I feel. I can't believe wanting to have a fun basketball game turned into this argument.

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                              • noshun
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                                • Sep 2006
                                • 1150

                                #105
                                Re: Will You buy NBA Live 18 IF it doesnt have Roster Editing(Editing Players) Option

                                Originally posted by dubcity
                                They don't want you to have updated rosters on offline after the playoffs are over because they want Ultimate Team to be the only mode to hold it's value in the off-season and (particularly) when the next game in the series comes out.

                                This would be the type of game I might buy 6-8 months after release, when it's on sale, but not if it's shelf life is going to be intentionally shortened by not allowing roster sharing/editing.

                                You my man, are very close to why I say Synergy is a mask. 23, these guys are funny over here, N.E. included. They can never be honest with themselves on these forums, imagine in person .
                                NBA Live is the epitome of Cancel Culture..


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