Just wondering what exactly is updating? I haven't played Live in years so I can't remember if there is really a difference between day 1 with the game and how the game plays throughout and all the way to the end of the actual NBA regular season. Is Synergy exclusive to EA?
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Would love to know this also.
Since it's updating everyday before the preseason started, assuming it does nothing.
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It’s supposed to update player tendencies I believe, so if some is shooting from a certain spot on the floor or shooting more 3’s or layups then they are supposed to do that in the game.
How much it is actually doing I have no idea.
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its a mask for..nvmComment
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From my experiences with Live and Synergy, it really starts to show once the teams get about 10 games into the season. This seems to allows for a greater sample size and for the Synergy data to be more precise.JahsWillComment
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When it first came out, I honestly thought it would revolutionise CPU AI in sports games.
Sadly though, it simply has not worked.Comment
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I honestly believe synergy is the sole reason we cant get the player edit feature...im sure there's some in house deal going on.
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Live 10 had both, and I edited players myself to have the game play the way I wanted to. We need that level of control back. Personally, I think the reason why there's no cap is that they put those elements in The One mode, and it gives us a reason to buy the game every year, instead of hanging onto an old game, and updating the rosters ourselves.
That's one of the reasons why I don't buy madden every year, that and it's other issues lol.Comment
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Does anyone know, are Synergy updates applied to ongoing Franchise modes? If Synergy is working the way it is intended to in this game, I hope so!"Basketball is my favorite sport
I like the way they dribble up and down the court
Just like I'm the King on the microphone so is Dr. J and Moses Malone"Comment
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Re: Can someone explain what exactly Synergy is doing for Live?
To be specific.
lets take kyle kuzma from the lakers. he's scoring from everywhere. BUTTTTT, if we pulled his shots made, you would see he makes more shots from certain spots than others. Synergy is SUPPOSED put that within your players tendencies. if he drives left most of the time. that is also a tendency update.
Synergy is basically a super scouting report on every player. which is a tendencies report. what does he do well, what does he do poorly, what does he do period.
if you are a controlling a player, the only thing synergy SHOULD change for you is hot spots on the court. where has your guy been making shots from in real life? if you shoot from those spots in those scenarios(he comes off a screen to his left and pulls up at 15 feet = Money...when he comes off the same screen to the left behind the 3pt line he's brick city.
The idea was to make darn sure NBA live played exactly how the real nba guys were playing TO DATE. no just getting an average/overall view of how they play in general (2K). Live wanted it to be LIVE as of right now this is how this guy is playing.
Now is it correctly linked to player attributes/tendencies? who knows
I know in the past, they had someone or someones...there to help with roster updates. meaning synergy will guide them in their updates. But if they need to tweek something that they saw in synergy numbers to actually reflect what you and I see with our eyes. they would..
^^where it all started.. Read that article. its good intel regardless of if it works in game today or not.
below is a small piece of the interview
IGN: Very cool. So how exactly does your company support the Dynamic DNA feature that's in NBA Live? Are there mechanics or is it kind of an abbreviated format?
Garrick Barr: It is very detailed. They're not using all of our data, but they're using a very large amount of our data. I would say something like 60 percent of the categories and data and they're diving pretty deep into what the various options are in each play type category such that the game has to support the actual play types, and I was amazed to find that, when I first saw the game and spoke with the folks at EA, how many of our play types were encompassed by the game. I think that they did some stuff to enhance what they did so that our data could drive additional situations, then they added defense (which was astounding to me that you couldn't control defense up until this time), so it just seems like a real quantum leap in how the games are designed.
In the past, a player, what they would they would do within the game seemed arbitrary. I think that [real] live coaches, prior to Quantified Scouting and Synergy, they had a gut feel or they did a small... they did a sampling of what they saw to try to figure out what the players like to do. We track it every day and we update it in real-time, so our reports tell you exactly what's going on out on the floor, exactly who these players are, when they slump, when they break out, when they're injured, how slowly they come back, how young players sort of find themselves, start to exert themselves and then become stars. All of that is reflected in our data in real time and that data we've provided to EA Sports to draw that data directly from us on a daily basis so that the artificial intelligence in the game is able to have the players behave precisely how they're supposed to behave in real life in so many different aspects.^^This kind of stuff is why I've always felt that nba live could if they really wanted to(EA would have to throw a ton of cash at them to pull it off and get a large enough team to do it...but they could be the most realistic basketball game right now. They were dead serious about making a sim game. Then some things happened and here comes 2K with a great LOOKing game. meaning to view, it looks like real basketball. But in reality it only sometimes plays like it. Then live got worse and worse over the years in the looks department/animations dept. But if you think about it. with the Elite 11 controls and add in Synergy..if it truly works as advertised. They would have brought you the most realistic hoop experience ever. Now would that be fun for the casuals? Probably not. and theres a ton of cash coming in from the casuals. So what do you do if you're EA?IGN: Now, I know that your tools can essentially provide tendencies of individual players' play as far as the scouting reports and everything. Can it essentially predict when they may be having hot or cold streaks or what areas of the court they're possibly better at shooting from so that coaches and players can analyze and get prepped for an upcoming game?
Garrick Barr: Yes. We have all of that information in the team website tool set. How players are trending, both in respect to their shooting, scoring criteria, their overall impact -- or their non-shooting scoring data set; rebounds, field goals, those types of things -- we've tracked all that over five- or ten-game periods. We have a shot chart to let you know where they're hot, where they're not. All of that stuff.Last edited by splashmountain; 10-17-2017, 05:02 PM.Comment
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Can someone explain what exactly Synergy is doing for Live?
To be specific.
lets take kyle kuzma from the lakers. he's scoring from everywhere. BUTTTTT, if we pulled his shots made, you would see he makes more shots from certain spots than others. Synergy is SUPPOSED put that within your players tendencies. if he drives left most of the time. that is also a tendency update.
Synergy is basically a super scouting report on every player. which is a tendencies report. what does he do well, what does he do poorly, what does he do period.
if you are a controlling a player, the only thing synergy SHOULD change for you is hot spots on the court. where has your guy been making shots from in real life? if you shoot from those spots in those scenarios(he comes off a screen to his left and pulls up at 15 feet = Money...when he comes off the same screen to the left behind the 3pt line he's brick city.
The idea was to make darn sure NBA live played exactly how the real nba guys were playing TO DATE. no just getting an average/overall view of how they play in general (2K). Live wanted it to be LIVE as of right now this is how this guy is playing.
Now is it correctly linked to player attributes/tendencies? who knows
I know in the past, they had someone or someones...there to help with roster updates. meaning synergy will guide them in their updates. But if they need to tweek something that they saw in synergy numbers to actually reflect what you and I see with our eyes. they would..
^^where it all started.. Read that article. its good intel regardless of if it works in game today or not.
below is a small piece of the interview
^^This kind of stuff is why I've always felt that nba live could if they really wanted to(EA would have to throw a ton of cash at them to pull it off and get a large enough team to do it...but they could be the most realistic basketball game right now. They were dead serious about making a sim game. Then some things happened and here comes 2K with a great LOOKing game. meaning to view, it looks like real basketball. But in reality it only sometimes plays like it. Then live got worse and worse over the years in the looks department/animations dept. But if you think about it. with the Elite 11 controls and add in Synergy..if it truly works as advertised. They would have brought you the most realistic hoop experience ever. Now would that be fun for the casuals? Probably not. and theres a ton of cash coming in from the casuals. So what do you do if you're EA?
This is a great post. Thanks for the article too...now I do remember reading that years ago. I wonder if synergy is only linked to offensive tendencies or are defensive tendencies updates as well? Either way, good insight posted here.
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