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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23432

    #1

    Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

    Alright I finally decided to do this since I have time now. Over all, like all their sports games, NBA Live 19 player ratings are over inflated and clumped together. So I decided to re-rate players for better game play. So here is a guideline.

    Play Style - You will want to change this for a lot of players. IMO EA gave too many players the wrong play style type.

    Speed - Going to have to cap this for a few positions.

    Centers: No higher then 82 speed. Vast majority of Centers should be in the 60s, with some in the 50s and low to mid 70s. Really only 2 or 3 Centers should be at 80 or above.

    Forwards - No higher then 89.

    Guards can go max 99. However only a handful should be above 90.

    Vertical - Centers need to be capped at 80.

    Strength - Lower it over all for everybody. Only a handful should be at or above 90. Majority of the guards should be in the 60s and low 70s. Forwards should be mid 70s to high 80s.

    All the shooting ratings should be adjusted. A lot of players are shooting much better this season then what NBA Live 19 got them at and a lot of players are shooting more poorly this season and need to have their ratings go down.

    Dunk - Severely over inflated. Only handful deserve above 90. Majority of capable of dunking should be 70 to 85. This will SEVERELY cut back on the amount of fancy dunks you see by way too many players.

    Layups - Same as dunk rating, over inflated and need to be scaled way back.

    Court Vision - I call it the IQ rating of players. I broke it down into the following:

    Best Player on the team: 95 and above

    Good Players - 80 to 90

    Average Players - 70 to 79

    Below Average Players - 60 to 69

    Bad Players - 59 and below

    Passing - Need to be toned down for a lot of players and raised for others. Nothing wrong with players with a pass rating in the 50s. They can still pass the ball. A lower passer rating in the hands of the CPU AI will make them choose safer passes and less passing in traffic or cross court.

    Dribbling - Same as passing. Nothing was more annoying then seeing Centers and Power Forwards dribbling like they were Kyrie Irving.

    Defensive Awareness - Need to be toned way down. See the scale for court vision. Let's be real here, some players simply suck on defense. Majority of NBA players I would consider average on defense. Very few actually deserve a 90 or above rating.

    On Ball Defense - See above for defensive awareness. By default they had way too many players too high like the league was full of lockdown Gary Payton type of defenders. See the scale for court vision. I consider most of the NBA average on ball defenders. Very few should be above 90. Then you also have plenty in the NBA who are below average defenders.

    Block and Steal - Both over rated. Scale that way back. Majority of my players I gave a steal rating in the 60s and low 70s. Like I said before, the NBA is not full of Gary Paytons.

    Contested shot, clutch, shoot off dribble - All need to be re-rated.
  • CujoMatty
    Member of Rush Nation
    • Oct 2007
    • 5444

    #2
    Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

    Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
    Alright I finally decided to do this since I have time now. Over all, like all their sports games, NBA Live 19 player ratings are over inflated and clumped together. So I decided to re-rate players for better game play. So here is a guideline.

    Play Style - You will want to change this for a lot of players. IMO EA gave too many players the wrong play style type.

    Speed - Going to have to cap this for a few positions.

    Centers: No higher then 82 speed. Vast majority of Centers should be in the 60s, with some in the 50s and low to mid 70s. Really only 2 or 3 Centers should be at 80 or above.

    Forwards - No higher then 89.

    Guards can go max 99. However only a handful should be above 90.

    Vertical - Centers need to be capped at 80.

    Strength - Lower it over all for everybody. Only a handful should be at or above 90. Majority of the guards should be in the 60s and low 70s. Forwards should be mid 70s to high 80s.

    All the shooting ratings should be adjusted. A lot of players are shooting much better this season then what NBA Live 19 got them at and a lot of players are shooting more poorly this season and need to have their ratings go down.

    Dunk - Severely over inflated. Only handful deserve above 90. Majority of capable of dunking should be 70 to 85. This will SEVERELY cut back on the amount of fancy dunks you see by way too many players.

    Layups - Same as dunk rating, over inflated and need to be scaled way back.

    Court Vision - I call it the IQ rating of players. I broke it down into the following:

    Best Player on the team: 95 and above

    Good Players - 80 to 90

    Average Players - 70 to 79

    Below Average Players - 60 to 69

    Bad Players - 59 and below

    Passing - Need to be toned down for a lot of players and raised for others. Nothing wrong with players with a pass rating in the 50s. They can still pass the ball. A lower passer rating in the hands of the CPU AI will make them choose safer passes and less passing in traffic or cross court.

    Dribbling - Same as passing. Nothing was more annoying then seeing Centers and Power Forwards dribbling like they were Kyrie Irving.

    Defensive Awareness - Need to be toned way down. See the scale for court vision. Let's be real here, some players simply suck on defense. Majority of NBA players I would consider average on defense. Very few actually deserve a 90 or above rating.

    On Ball Defense - See above for defensive awareness. By default they had way too many players too high like the league was full of lockdown Gary Payton type of defenders. See the scale for court vision. I consider most of the NBA average on ball defenders. Very few should be above 90. Then you also have plenty in the NBA who are below average defenders.

    Block and Steal - Both over rated. Scale that way back. Majority of my players I gave a steal rating in the 60s and low 70s. Like I said before, the NBA is not full of Gary Paytons.

    Contested shot, clutch, shoot off dribble - All need to be re-rated.
    This is why we need a roster share option.
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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23432

      #3
      Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

      So what will you see if you do all of this ?

      Much better game play. Way more variety of moves and animations by the AI. More stumbles, bobbled passes. More mismatches being exploited. Less on ball steals over all, now only the actual stealers and beast on ball defenders will actually on ball steal. Way more mid range shooting. More passing of the ball around. More realistic looking fast breaks. Blocks that actually make sense. Teams and players will be more clearly separated. Great players will shine more, bad players will be more exposed. Teams full of bad defensive aware players will clearly stand out.

      The biggest key changes are court vision, on ball defense, steal, block and defensive awareness. Makes a night and day difference.

      Is it worth your time ?

      Hell yes if you are an offline player.

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      • seanhazz1
        Rookie
        • Nov 2006
        • 416

        #4
        Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

        Originally posted by CujoMatty
        This is why we need a roster share option.

        Agreed.......
        Only if it doesn't crash our games upon loading custom rosters.
        There should also be a slider/settings share option, as I feel thecslider adjustments in this year's game work very well towards getting the game to play how you want.

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        • kwas676
          Pro
          • Jul 2008
          • 520

          #5
          Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
          Alright I finally decided to do this since I have time now. Over all, like all their sports games, NBA Live 19 player ratings are over inflated and clumped together. So I decided to re-rate players for better game play. So here is a guideline.

          Play Style - You will want to change this for a lot of players. IMO EA gave too many players the wrong play style type.

          Speed - Going to have to cap this for a few positions.

          Centers: No higher then 82 speed. Vast majority of Centers should be in the 60s, with some in the 50s and low to mid 70s. Really only 2 or 3 Centers should be at 80 or above.

          Forwards - No higher then 89.

          Guards can go max 99. However only a handful should be above 90.

          Vertical - Centers need to be capped at 80.

          Strength - Lower it over all for everybody. Only a handful should be at or above 90. Majority of the guards should be in the 60s and low 70s. Forwards should be mid 70s to high 80s.

          All the shooting ratings should be adjusted. A lot of players are shooting much better this season then what NBA Live 19 got them at and a lot of players are shooting more poorly this season and need to have their ratings go down.

          Dunk - Severely over inflated. Only handful deserve above 90. Majority of capable of dunking should be 70 to 85. This will SEVERELY cut back on the amount of fancy dunks you see by way too many players.

          Layups - Same as dunk rating, over inflated and need to be scaled way back.

          Court Vision - I call it the IQ rating of players. I broke it down into the following:

          Best Player on the team: 95 and above

          Good Players - 80 to 90

          Average Players - 70 to 79

          Below Average Players - 60 to 69

          Bad Players - 59 and below

          Passing - Need to be toned down for a lot of players and raised for others. Nothing wrong with players with a pass rating in the 50s. They can still pass the ball. A lower passer rating in the hands of the CPU AI will make them choose safer passes and less passing in traffic or cross court.

          Dribbling - Same as passing. Nothing was more annoying then seeing Centers and Power Forwards dribbling like they were Kyrie Irving.

          Defensive Awareness - Need to be toned way down. See the scale for court vision. Let's be real here, some players simply suck on defense. Majority of NBA players I would consider average on defense. Very few actually deserve a 90 or above rating.

          On Ball Defense - See above for defensive awareness. By default they had way too many players too high like the league was full of lockdown Gary Payton type of defenders. See the scale for court vision. I consider most of the NBA average on ball defenders. Very few should be above 90. Then you also have plenty in the NBA who are below average defenders.

          Block and Steal - Both over rated. Scale that way back. Majority of my players I gave a steal rating in the 60s and low 70s. Like I said before, the NBA is not full of Gary Paytons.

          Contested shot, clutch, shoot off dribble - All need to be re-rated.
          Man I wish EA would hire you lol. Crazy how little effort they put into the nba side of this game. Fultz 81 overall pretty much sums it smh. Going check this out played s online game cp3 just kept stealing & stealing went look at his rating guy steal overall a 94 smh. With how the gameplay is in this game that’s way to high.

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          • dasunsrule32
            Rookie
            • Nov 2014
            • 494

            #6
            Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

            Originally posted by CujoMatty
            This is why we need a roster share option.
            Yup, one of the things I harped on in the survey they sent out today. And franchise... And online franchise... And... I told them just copy MyLeague lol

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            • alabamarob
              MVP
              • Nov 2010
              • 3335

              #7
              Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

              Fultz and Simmons mid and 3 ball are unexplainable. Bembry isnt even on the playable roster.

              Is there a person identified as responsible for these ratings?
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              • vtcrb
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2006
                • 10293

                #8
                Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

                Originally posted by alabamarob
                Fultz and Simmons mid and 3 ball are unexplainable. Bembry isnt even on the playable roster.

                Is there a person identified as responsible for these ratings?
                She still does ratings as far as I know: https://mobile.twitter.com/emesola
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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23432

                  #9
                  Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

                  Originally posted by vtcrb
                  She still does ratings as far as I know: https://mobile.twitter.com/emesola
                  I think she more in charge of the art direction of NBA Live and accessories. EA Dougie is the one to get at since he is the creative director.

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                  • vtcrb
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 10293

                    #10
                    Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

                    Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                    I think she more in charge of the art direction of NBA Live and accessories. EA Dougie is the one to get at since he is the creative director.
                    I know when I gave ratings information to them before she made the changes, as least that is way messages I received led me to believe. It could have changed. I can tell you they do things the way they want as I gave detailed information with data to back it up and was met with a Generic response and no changes. After that I pretty much stop trying with feedback.
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                    • Tomba
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 8908

                      #11
                      Re: Ratings Over Haul Guideline For Better Game Play

                      It really makes a difference once you edit the roster.

                      prob is eas own roster changes dont go into our old saves
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