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  • platic
    Rookie
    • Oct 2003
    • 199

    #1

    Recommend a game please?

    Greetings!

    I'm a long time fan of the NBA 2K series, but I haven't played a basketball video game since 2002. I think the best basketball sim I have ever played was NBA 2K2 on the dreamcast.

    I'm looking for game recommendations right now. Obviously, the two candidates would be ESPN Basketball 2005 and NBA Live 2005.

    I put a premium on realism, and I would always choose a game that's more "realistic" over one that's more "fun". In other words, I want a basketball simulation.

    I want a game where the team FG% should usually be between .380 to .550. I definitely do NOT want games where medium-range jumpshots are a a lost cause, and all the teams end up getting 60 to 70 pts of their points in the paint (that was my problem with NBA2K2). And obviously, I do not want a game where everyone from Earl Boykins to Shawn Bradley to Reggie Miller doing windmill dunks all the time. In fact, the less spectacular dunks, the better. A realistic game ought to have no more than one spectacular dunk per quarter. And of course, I do not want a game where I can consistently score 55 points every single night on 24-38 shooting whenever I play LeBron James, Tracy McGrady, or some other superstar.

    Had NBA2K2 featured more medium range jumpshots and far less points in the paint, I would've considered it a perfect game. I don't know what has happened to the ESPN Basketball or the NBA Live series since that time.

    Now, I'm sure that none of these games can offer all that I want out of the box. However, I'd like a game where the sliders and/or ratings can be tweaked to the point that I can have the simulation I want.

    Any recommendations for a particular game that fits my specific needs? Would people just recommend that I wait for next year, and go 3 straight years without playing a basketball game?
  • SonicMage
    NBA Ratings Wizard
    • Oct 2002
    • 3544

    #2
    Re: Recommend a game please?

    Originally posted by platic
    I put a premium on realism, and I would always choose a game that's more "realistic" over one that's more "fun". In other words, I want a basketball simulation.
    Need to be careful with your words there. Realistic games are supposed to be fun, too. Otherwise why would you be playing the game?

    I personally play NBA Live more than ESPN just because of the NBA Live on PC factor.

    Both games have their pros and cons in the realism department, though neither have really reached a point close to it, I'm afraid to say.
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    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #3
      Re: Recommend a game please?

      Originally posted by platic
      I put a premium on realism, and I would always choose a game that's more "realistic" over one that's more "fun". In other words, I want a basketball simulation.
      Need to be careful with your words there. Realistic games are supposed to be fun, too. Otherwise why would you be playing the game?

      I personally play NBA Live more than ESPN just because of the NBA Live on PC factor.

      Both games have their pros and cons in the realism department, though neither have really reached a point close to it, I'm afraid to say.
      NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

      Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
      Link to Ratings All-time

      Discussion found here

      Comment

      • Playmakers
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 15416

        #4
        Re: Recommend a game please?

        I play Live 2005. I had ESPN but lets just say I returned it after about two weeks. Once I did that I started tweaking the hell out of Live because believe it or not the game actually plays very good basketball once you fool around with slidersand player ratings most noticeable the block shots ratings.

        I would suggest Live but hey this is a NBA Live forum.
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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 15416

          #5
          Re: Recommend a game please?

          I play Live 2005. I had ESPN but lets just say I returned it after about two weeks. Once I did that I started tweaking the hell out of Live because believe it or not the game actually plays very good basketball once you fool around with slidersand player ratings most noticeable the block shots ratings.

          I would suggest Live but hey this is a NBA Live forum.
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          • ludacris06
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 1527

            #6
            Re: Recommend a game please?

            I suggest ESPN over NBA Live 2005.

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            • ludacris06
              Banned
              • Sep 2003
              • 1527

              #7
              Re: Recommend a game please?

              I suggest ESPN over NBA Live 2005.

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              • pennsy
                Rookie
                • Dec 2002
                • 164

                #8
                Re: Recommend a game please?

                I suggest Live over ESPN!!!!

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                • pennsy
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 164

                  #9
                  Re: Recommend a game please?

                  I suggest Live over ESPN!!!!

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                  • fobbybobby23
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 825

                    #10
                    Re: Recommend a game please?

                    if you can get both

                    haha sorry it doesn't really help you...well i personally have a PS2 so ESPN and NBA both have pros and cons, but the ESPN on xbox...has the patch, so maybe it plays differently?? so maybe if you have an xbox..i duno

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                    • fobbybobby23
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 825

                      #11
                      Re: Recommend a game please?

                      if you can get both

                      haha sorry it doesn't really help you...well i personally have a PS2 so ESPN and NBA both have pros and cons, but the ESPN on xbox...has the patch, so maybe it plays differently?? so maybe if you have an xbox..i duno

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                      • Vince
                        Bow for Bau
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26017

                        #12
                        Re: Recommend a game please?

                        I suggest Inside Drive over both,if you want true realism.
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                        • Vince
                          Bow for Bau
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26017

                          #13
                          Re: Recommend a game please?

                          I suggest Inside Drive over both,if you want true realism.
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                          • Discrimihater
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 395

                            #14
                            Re: Recommend a game please?

                            i suggest Live, after having played both. I couldn't really get over 2K5's timeout glitch (as most know by now, the timeouts were set on manual instead of auto, so there's no AI timeouts) and Live just feels like a better game this year. the dunk contest helps Live's cause too
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                            • Discrimihater
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 395

                              #15
                              Re: Recommend a game please?

                              i suggest Live, after having played both. I couldn't really get over 2K5's timeout glitch (as most know by now, the timeouts were set on manual instead of auto, so there's no AI timeouts) and Live just feels like a better game this year. the dunk contest helps Live's cause too
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