Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for best..

**ForTheCity** · 09-29-2003, 01:24 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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ID isn't all "sparkly" and "shiny" for the children. Its meat and potatoes basketball for fans of realism outside of sweaty player models.

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Yeah...okay. Thats all fine and dandy.

But the objective of them making the game in the fisr place is for it to SELL. For it to appeal to all users of the game. Maybe you arent realizing that...

And by the way...

Not being able to pass out of layups is not realism.
Elite ballhandlers like AI, T-Mac, Kobe doing 5th grade crossovers is not realism.
Walking into Alley-Oops is not realism
180 MPH Spin Moves is not realism
Being able to use the same post move to score everytime is not realism
Getting called for charges when you make the slightest contact with a defender is not realism
The cardboard crowd is not realism

**Court_vision** · 09-29-2003, 01:59 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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ForTheCity said:
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ID isn't all "sparkly" and "shiny" for the children. Its meat and potatoes basketball for fans of realism outside of sweaty player models.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...okay. Thats all fine and dandy.

But the objective of them making the game in the fisr place is for it to SELL. For it to appeal to all users of the game. Maybe you arent realizing that...

And by the way...

Not being able to pass out of layups is not realism.
Elite ballhandlers like AI, T-Mac, Kobe doing 5th grade crossovers is not realism.
Walking into Alley-Oops is not realism
180 MPH Spin Moves is not realism
Being able to use the same post move to score everytime is not realism
Getting called for charges when you make the slightest contact with a defender is not realism
The cardboard crowd is not realism

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The card board crowd is gone...

And BTW I love the realism of 2K3 where Reggie Miller stands and wathces all game...and I can't get enough of Charlie Ward pulling that nasty cross over on me. You just can't beat all the guys moving like robots also...because, last time I watched an NBA game, the real dudes were just as non athletic...

I also can't get enough of the Utah Jazz fast break in Live 2003...or guys not fouling at the end of the game, because that's realistic...

Point is, they all have flaws...and at least ID has the tendancies right.

**Court_vision** · 09-29-2003, 01:59 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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ForTheCity said:
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ID isn't all "sparkly" and "shiny" for the children. Its meat and potatoes basketball for fans of realism outside of sweaty player models.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...okay. Thats all fine and dandy.

But the objective of them making the game in the fisr place is for it to SELL. For it to appeal to all users of the game. Maybe you arent realizing that...

And by the way...

Not being able to pass out of layups is not realism.
Elite ballhandlers like AI, T-Mac, Kobe doing 5th grade crossovers is not realism.
Walking into Alley-Oops is not realism
180 MPH Spin Moves is not realism
Being able to use the same post move to score everytime is not realism
Getting called for charges when you make the slightest contact with a defender is not realism
The cardboard crowd is not realism

<hr /></blockquote>

The card board crowd is gone...

And BTW I love the realism of 2K3 where Reggie Miller stands and wathces all game...and I can't get enough of Charlie Ward pulling that nasty cross over on me. You just can't beat all the guys moving like robots also...because, last time I watched an NBA game, the real dudes were just as non athletic...

I also can't get enough of the Utah Jazz fast break in Live 2003...or guys not fouling at the end of the game, because that's realistic...

Point is, they all have flaws...and at least ID has the tendancies right.

**Court_vision** · 09-29-2003, 01:59 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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ForTheCity said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
ID isn't all "sparkly" and "shiny" for the children. Its meat and potatoes basketball for fans of realism outside of sweaty player models.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...okay. Thats all fine and dandy.

But the objective of them making the game in the fisr place is for it to SELL. For it to appeal to all users of the game. Maybe you arent realizing that...

And by the way...

Not being able to pass out of layups is not realism.
Elite ballhandlers like AI, T-Mac, Kobe doing 5th grade crossovers is not realism.
Walking into Alley-Oops is not realism
180 MPH Spin Moves is not realism
Being able to use the same post move to score everytime is not realism
Getting called for charges when you make the slightest contact with a defender is not realism
The cardboard crowd is not realism

<hr /></blockquote>

The card board crowd is gone...

And BTW I love the realism of 2K3 where Reggie Miller stands and wathces all game...and I can't get enough of Charlie Ward pulling that nasty cross over on me. You just can't beat all the guys moving like robots also...because, last time I watched an NBA game, the real dudes were just as non athletic...

I also can't get enough of the Utah Jazz fast break in Live 2003...or guys not fouling at the end of the game, because that's realistic...

Point is, they all have flaws...and at least ID has the tendancies right.

**aholbert32** · 10-02-2003, 06:07 PM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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monkey said:
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jmood88 said:

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Don't call me son *******. In the copy of inside drive that I have it's nothing special. I see no player tendencies or anything. .

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HOLY S### you MORON...THERE ARE PLAYER TENDANCY SLIDERS...THAT'S THE KEY POINT!!!!!!

Calms downs...

Apology to all.

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Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

**aholbert32** · 10-02-2003, 06:07 PM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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monkey said:
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jmood88 said:

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Don't call me son *******. In the copy of inside drive that I have it's nothing special. I see no player tendencies or anything. .

<hr /></blockquote>

HOLY S### you MORON...THERE ARE PLAYER TENDANCY SLIDERS...THAT'S THE KEY POINT!!!!!!

Calms downs...

Apology to all.

<hr /></blockquote>

Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

**aholbert32** · 10-02-2003, 06:07 PM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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monkey said:
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jmood88 said:

<hr /></blockquote>

Don't call me son *******. In the copy of inside drive that I have it's nothing special. I see no player tendencies or anything. .

<hr /></blockquote>

HOLY S### you MORON...THERE ARE PLAYER TENDANCY SLIDERS...THAT'S THE KEY POINT!!!!!!

Calms downs...

Apology to all.

<hr /></blockquote>

Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

**Court_vision** · 10-03-2003, 12:49 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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aholbert32 said:

Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

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Fair enough.

Sorry about that. It was a few days ago now...no dramas since.

**Court_vision** · 10-03-2003, 12:49 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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aholbert32 said:

Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

<hr /></blockquote>

Fair enough.

Sorry about that. It was a few days ago now...no dramas since.

**Court_vision** · 10-03-2003, 12:49 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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aholbert32 said:

Both of you are warned. Chill out with the personal attacks.

<hr /></blockquote>

Fair enough.

Sorry about that. It was a few days ago now...no dramas since.

**XBox_Roughneck** · 10-04-2003, 01:13 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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BOSsTOwN said:
i agree that for an Xbox only game ID should be the best looking...but id was never better than 2k and i played all 3

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For pure control/gameplay I'd disagree. NBA2k3 is nice (I own it) and some of it's little things are really nice ( replays with the background being one color while the player is full color) but for on the court action Inside Drive 2003 was better than Live or NBA2k.

Seriously. NBA Live had NO defensive play last year, which resulted in EA going back to the drawing board and focusing on the DEFENSE being better. 2004 will see entire teams shifting the way they are suppose to on DEFENSE.

NBA2k3 had great player models and great crowds, but at times it's pace seemed very slow, and even though the animation lock was less than the previous year...animations still at times took over for actual controller input.

Inside Drive had the worst crowds last year, and IMHO it had the least attractive player models (though the texture detail was the best)...but it still doesn't have on the court competition for EA or Sega yet.

This year will be a close race, but if you're a fan of tight control, great slider options to tweak the game the way YOU like to play... well, you better grab a copy of Inside Drive 2004.

**XBox_Roughneck** · 10-04-2003, 01:13 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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BOSsTOwN said:
i agree that for an Xbox only game ID should be the best looking...but id was never better than 2k and i played all 3

<hr /></blockquote>

For pure control/gameplay I'd disagree. NBA2k3 is nice (I own it) and some of it's little things are really nice ( replays with the background being one color while the player is full color) but for on the court action Inside Drive 2003 was better than Live or NBA2k.

Seriously. NBA Live had NO defensive play last year, which resulted in EA going back to the drawing board and focusing on the DEFENSE being better. 2004 will see entire teams shifting the way they are suppose to on DEFENSE.

NBA2k3 had great player models and great crowds, but at times it's pace seemed very slow, and even though the animation lock was less than the previous year...animations still at times took over for actual controller input.

Inside Drive had the worst crowds last year, and IMHO it had the least attractive player models (though the texture detail was the best)...but it still doesn't have on the court competition for EA or Sega yet.

This year will be a close race, but if you're a fan of tight control, great slider options to tweak the game the way YOU like to play... well, you better grab a copy of Inside Drive 2004.

**XBox_Roughneck** · 10-04-2003, 01:13 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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BOSsTOwN said:
i agree that for an Xbox only game ID should be the best looking...but id was never better than 2k and i played all 3

<hr /></blockquote>

For pure control/gameplay I'd disagree. NBA2k3 is nice (I own it) and some of it's little things are really nice ( replays with the background being one color while the player is full color) but for on the court action Inside Drive 2003 was better than Live or NBA2k.

Seriously. NBA Live had NO defensive play last year, which resulted in EA going back to the drawing board and focusing on the DEFENSE being better. 2004 will see entire teams shifting the way they are suppose to on DEFENSE.

NBA2k3 had great player models and great crowds, but at times it's pace seemed very slow, and even though the animation lock was less than the previous year...animations still at times took over for actual controller input.

Inside Drive had the worst crowds last year, and IMHO it had the least attractive player models (though the texture detail was the best)...but it still doesn't have on the court competition for EA or Sega yet.

This year will be a close race, but if you're a fan of tight control, great slider options to tweak the game the way YOU like to play... well, you better grab a copy of Inside Drive 2004.

**XBox_Roughneck** · 10-04-2003, 01:23 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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jmood88 said:
Don't call me son *******. In the copy of inside drive that I have it's nothing special. I see no player tendencies or anything. It can't just be my copy because I know other people that don't see the so called greatness of this game.

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1) It might be your XBox.
2) Maybe you weren't looking for player tendancies in a basketball game.

Yes, ID has IMHO the best CPU in game AI.

**XBox_Roughneck** · 10-04-2003, 01:23 AM

Re: Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for be

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jmood88 said:
Don't call me son *******. In the copy of inside drive that I have it's nothing special. I see no player tendencies or anything. It can't just be my copy because I know other people that don't see the so called greatness of this game.

<hr /></blockquote>

1) It might be your XBox.
2) Maybe you weren't looking for player tendancies in a basketball game.

Yes, ID has IMHO the best CPU in game AI.

Looks like Inside Drive 2004 will once again hold the title for best..

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