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  • Lazarus777
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 35
    #46
    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

    First of all, a shooting foul does count as a shot attempt in real, non cybe basketball. But you are correct. The rebound should not. As soon as the basketball bounces off the rim or results in a miss, the play is dead. It's called continuation.

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      • Blue_Monkey
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 1107
        #47
        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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        Lazarus777 said:
        First of all, a shooting foul does count as a shot attempt in real, non cybe basketball. But you are correct. The rebound should not. As soon as the basketball bounces off the rim or results in a miss, the play is dead. It's called continuation

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        Hey, you're right. A missed shot that was called a shooting foul does indeed count as a FG attempt. So the problem is just that the rebounds of these shots still count in ID and that the CPU shoots way too fast. Of course, defense has something to do with how fast they shoot but generally the CPU doesn't use enough shot clock.

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          • Blue_Monkey
            MVP
            • Oct 2002
            • 1107
            #48
            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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            Lazarus777 said:
            First of all, a shooting foul does count as a shot attempt in real, non cybe basketball. But you are correct. The rebound should not. As soon as the basketball bounces off the rim or results in a miss, the play is dead. It's called continuation

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            Hey, you're right. A missed shot that was called a shooting foul does indeed count as a FG attempt. So the problem is just that the rebounds of these shots still count in ID and that the CPU shoots way too fast. Of course, defense has something to do with how fast they shoot but generally the CPU doesn't use enough shot clock.

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              • Blue_Monkey
                MVP
                • Oct 2002
                • 1107
                #49
                Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                Lazarus777 said:
                First of all, a shooting foul does count as a shot attempt in real, non cybe basketball. But you are correct. The rebound should not. As soon as the basketball bounces off the rim or results in a miss, the play is dead. It's called continuation

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                Hey, you're right. A missed shot that was called a shooting foul does indeed count as a FG attempt. So the problem is just that the rebounds of these shots still count in ID and that the CPU shoots way too fast. Of course, defense has something to do with how fast they shoot but generally the CPU doesn't use enough shot clock.

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                  • mvb34
                    S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 8138
                    #50
                    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                    I think the CPU should use the time outs better, If I go on a run the CPU should call timeout to slow the run down
                    http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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                      • mvb34
                        S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 8138
                        #51
                        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                        I think the CPU should use the time outs better, If I go on a run the CPU should call timeout to slow the run down
                        http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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                          • mvb34
                            S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8138
                            #52
                            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                            I think the CPU should use the time outs better, If I go on a run the CPU should call timeout to slow the run down
                            http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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                              • laker8la
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 280
                                #53
                                Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                                First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in. Then it is counted as a FG ATT and a FG Made. Yes, Drive got this wrong. Live is messed up also. I have noticed two things about Live that almost make it a game killer for me. 1.If you shoot a shot and it gets blocked, it won't be counted as a shot attempt. 2.Sometimes,(not always) when you take a charge and the basket goes in anyhow, it will be counted as 2 points. In the NBA, a charge negates any made basket. Also, a few of the offensive rebounds are not counted in the stats(for whatever reason). So, although Drive screwed up on the FG ATT on a shooting foul, there are far more flaws in Live, so be happy with what you got.

                                Laker8LA

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                                  • laker8la
                                    Rookie
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 280
                                    #54
                                    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                                    First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in. Then it is counted as a FG ATT and a FG Made. Yes, Drive got this wrong. Live is messed up also. I have noticed two things about Live that almost make it a game killer for me. 1.If you shoot a shot and it gets blocked, it won't be counted as a shot attempt. 2.Sometimes,(not always) when you take a charge and the basket goes in anyhow, it will be counted as 2 points. In the NBA, a charge negates any made basket. Also, a few of the offensive rebounds are not counted in the stats(for whatever reason). So, although Drive screwed up on the FG ATT on a shooting foul, there are far more flaws in Live, so be happy with what you got.

                                    Laker8LA

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                                      • laker8la
                                        Rookie
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 280
                                        #55
                                        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                                        First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in. Then it is counted as a FG ATT and a FG Made. Yes, Drive got this wrong. Live is messed up also. I have noticed two things about Live that almost make it a game killer for me. 1.If you shoot a shot and it gets blocked, it won't be counted as a shot attempt. 2.Sometimes,(not always) when you take a charge and the basket goes in anyhow, it will be counted as 2 points. In the NBA, a charge negates any made basket. Also, a few of the offensive rebounds are not counted in the stats(for whatever reason). So, although Drive screwed up on the FG ATT on a shooting foul, there are far more flaws in Live, so be happy with what you got.

                                        Laker8LA

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                                          • Blue_Monkey
                                            MVP
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 1107
                                            #56
                                            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                                            laker8la said:
                                            First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

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                                            Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked. But what separates reality and ID here is that a lot of times in real NBA basketball there's a "shooting foul" where there really was no shot but the player was kinda in the act of shooting so he gets free throws. The "shot" doesn't show up in the box socre though.

                                            In ID and I think in other games too there's nothing like this.

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                                              • Blue_Monkey
                                                MVP
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 1107
                                                #57
                                                Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                                                laker8la said:
                                                First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

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                                                Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked. But what separates reality and ID here is that a lot of times in real NBA basketball there's a "shooting foul" where there really was no shot but the player was kinda in the act of shooting so he gets free throws. The "shot" doesn't show up in the box socre though.

                                                In ID and I think in other games too there's nothing like this.

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                                                  • Blue_Monkey
                                                    MVP
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 1107
                                                    #58
                                                    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                                                    laker8la said:
                                                    First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

                                                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                                                    Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked. But what separates reality and ID here is that a lot of times in real NBA basketball there's a "shooting foul" where there really was no shot but the player was kinda in the act of shooting so he gets free throws. The "shot" doesn't show up in the box socre though.

                                                    In ID and I think in other games too there's nothing like this.

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                                                      • bamalam
                                                        MVP
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 1407
                                                        #59
                                                        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                                                        Blue_Monkey said:
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                                                        laker8la said:
                                                        First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

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                                                        Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked.

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                                                        i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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                                                          • bamalam
                                                            MVP
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 1407
                                                            #60
                                                            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                                                            Blue_Monkey said:
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                                                            laker8la said:
                                                            First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

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                                                            Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked.

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                                                            i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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