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  • Roggie
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    • Dec 2008
    • 1753

    #31
    Re: recruiting help?

    Originally posted by DCDuck
    75%.

    It's not a glitch. The 35 point cost per coach is the cost of setting up a visit weekend. You can host multiple recruits on one of those visit weekends without having to pay the 35 per coach for each recruit, but the points are still taken from your overall number of weekly points.
    It depends on how you look at it. Since it's supposed to take points away from all 3 coaches, but doesn't take points away from any, meaning they spend zero time each on the kid to give him a tour.
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    • waytofailself
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      • Feb 2011
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      #32
      Re: recruiting help?

      Originally posted by Roggie
      It depends on how you look at it. Since it's supposed to take points away from all 3 coaches, but doesn't take points away from any, meaning they spend zero time each on the kid to give him a tour.
      It's not a glitch though -- it has been like that in every CH game to date. But yes, I misstated to a certain extent. As long as the coaches each have enough time for one tour, you can pack in as many tours that week as your recruiting points will allow. Try and lump them together as best you can. Think of it in the real world sense of the coaches using time efficiently.

      Speaking of glitches though, if you find yourself with a sunday game (or whatever game is at the far right of the calendar view), you'll notice you cannot do scouting or home visits. However, you CAN do campus visits. If you find yourself with such a schedule, try to plan to save your campus visits for those weeks where the game does not allow you to do home or scout trips.
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      • Roggie
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        • Dec 2008
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        #33
        Re: recruiting help?

        Originally posted by waytofailself
        It's not a glitch though -- it has been like that in every CH game to date. But yes, I misstated to a certain extent. As long as the coaches each have enough time for one tour, you can pack in as many tours that week as your recruiting points will allow. Try and lump them together as best you can. Think of it in the real world sense of the coaches using time efficiently.

        Speaking of glitches though, if you find yourself with a sunday game (or whatever game is at the far right of the calendar view), you'll notice you cannot do scouting or home visits. However, you CAN do campus visits. If you find yourself with such a schedule, try to plan to save your campus visits for those weeks where the game does not allow you to do home or scout trips.
        I'm not understanding one thing. You're saying as long as the coaches have enough time for one tour, it works. But, since a campus visit takes 35 time, you can still use it when nobody has 35 time to give. I've had times where my coaches' combined time remaining was about 5 and given out two tours. I doubt that was intentional. It might be something overlooked, but it's definitely not supposed to work that way. I totally understand that you could do multiple tours where only the first one took time away, but the fact that you can give tours while NO coaches have even a tenth of the available time required is no way intentionally in the game.
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        • waytofailself
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          • Feb 2011
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          #34
          Re: recruiting help?

          Originally posted by Roggie
          I'm not understanding one thing. You're saying as long as the coaches have enough time for one tour, it works. But, since a campus visit takes 35 time, you can still use it when nobody has 35 time to give. I've had times where my coaches' combined time remaining was about 5 and given out two tours. I doubt that was intentional. It might be something overlooked, but it's definitely not supposed to work that way. I totally understand that you could do multiple tours where only the first one took time away, but the fact that you can give tours while NO coaches have even a tenth of the available time required is no way intentionally in the game.
          Hm, I've never tried it that way. If it works then it's a glitch then -- I've only ever done it where you pay in time for one visit and then the other visits cost no time (even if you have enough points to spend because there is no game that week).
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          • Roggie
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            • Dec 2008
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            #35
            Re: recruiting help?

            Originally posted by waytofailself
            Hm, I've never tried it that way. If it works then it's a glitch then -- I've only ever done it where you pay in time for one visit and then the other visits cost no time (even if you have enough points to spend because there is no game that week).
            Yep. I've never had a time where it didn't work. I've had times when I was confused because it disappeared, but I realized I ended up calling 1 too many people and didn't have the available points. I'm trying to think if there's some other part of it, but I do know for a fact I've brought a guy in when nobody had the time plenty of times.
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            • hazey
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              • Mar 2008
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              #36
              Re: recruiting help?

              Anyone have any idea on how many percentage points you can expect to gain from campus visits?

              What's the most someone has seen?

              What's around the average?

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              • Pitfighter87
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                • Nov 2009
                • 803

                #37
                Re: recruiting help?

                Originally posted by Roggie
                The biggest tip that I use that isn't listed is to look at 4 stars after signing week in season. You'll see some without offers. Go after a couple of them. Some will get scooped up by power schools, while others will fall through right into your lap. I have a career legacy as Texas Southern and got 2 of them my second season. On my 5th year, they're both 85 overall seniors.

                My other Legacy with a friend, I've moved on to Ohio from VMI (signed about 5 4 stars at VMI in 3 seasons using the same technique.) Even at Ohio, I do this. I can sign a few on my own, but most are in state. Think I signed one 4 star PG (who came in at 70 overall, unfortunately. But my backup was a 59 the previous year, so I have no complaints) in season, then grabbed a 4 star SG who came in at 78 overall. Nobody recruited him, so I took a flier on him. Big sign and adds major depth that I needed.
                True that.Another good way is after the first week you can offer a schollie in season wait about another 2 weeks and see who hasnt been offered.I was two weeks outside of in season signing week and found an All American no one had offered to yet.He had me 4th on the list and by the time signing time rolled around two weeks later no one had offered but me and i got him to sign.Point is look for guys a week or two after the 2nd week in season who havent been offered anything yet and also like the post above me guys after the signing week with no offers
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                • hoopla32
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2760

                  #38
                  Re: recruiting help?

                  I'm having an awful time recruiting. Just to mess around I started an open-legacy as UNC and then created three recruits from the state of North Carolina and made them HS juniors. I worked hard on all three who started off with interest somewhere between 60%-70% as juniors. I gave them obligatory phone call and e-mail each week. I started either #1 or #2 on all three players' list with Duke in the other slot. I kept plugging away only to notice I slowly started to slip as far as 8th on one player's list, and 5th on the other two.

                  That's the first frustrating thing. I still remained persistent into the offseason and by the beginning of the next season I was back-up into each player's top three. As I inched closer and closer to the early in-season signing period, though, I slipped further and further behind other schools despite maxing out on in-home visits and campus visits for all three. Let me remind you this was an open legacy so my coach's charisma was an A+. On the first day of the early signing period I lost all three recruits to Duke. From week one of the previous season when they were high school juniors I went from being #1 or #2 on all three players' list in a virtual tie with Duke only to slowly slip further and further behind. By the early signing period in the second season when they were high school seniors I was top 3 on all of their lists but too far behind Duke for it to really matter.

                  To make sure this wasn't a one time thing I immediately did the same thing with Kansas. I created three recruits from Kansas, recruited them relentlessly for 1.5 seasons, started top 1 or 2 on every list, only to fall further and further behind to the eventual point of not being in contention for any of the players.

                  So, what am I doing wrong? In that time (both Kansas and UNC legacies combined) I lost out on another 3-5 four or five star recruits where I began the season in their top-3 with high interest only to lose out in the end to another school. It's EXTREMELY frustrating and I just want to know if I'm doing something wrong or if recruiting is just that hard. I don't want to have to continually fill my open roster spots with last minute JUCO signees when I work my way up to a big-time program in my closed legacy.

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                  • lofeazy
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                    • Jan 2010
                    • 586

                    #39
                    Re: recruiting help?

                    Originally posted by hoopla32
                    I'm having an awful time recruiting. Just to mess around I started an open-legacy as UNC and then created three recruits from the state of North Carolina and made them HS juniors. I worked hard on all three who started off with interest somewhere between 60%-70% as juniors. I gave them obligatory phone call and e-mail each week. I started either #1 or #2 on all three players' list with Duke in the other slot. I kept plugging away only to notice I slowly started to slip as far as 8th on one player's list, and 5th on the other two.

                    That's the first frustrating thing. I still remained persistent into the offseason and by the beginning of the next season I was back-up into each player's top three. As I inched closer and closer to the early in-season signing period, though, I slipped further and further behind other schools despite maxing out on in-home visits and campus visits for all three. Let me remind you this was an open legacy so my coach's charisma was an A+. On the first day of the early signing period I lost all three recruits to Duke. From week one of the previous season when they were high school juniors I went from being #1 or #2 on all three players' list in a virtual tie with Duke only to slowly slip further and further behind. By the early signing period in the second season when they were high school seniors I was top 3 on all of their lists but too far behind Duke for it to really matter.

                    To make sure this wasn't a one time thing I immediately did the same thing with Kansas. I created three recruits from Kansas, recruited them relentlessly for 1.5 seasons, started top 1 or 2 on every list, only to fall further and further behind to the eventual point of not being in contention for any of the players.

                    So, what am I doing wrong? In that time (both Kansas and UNC legacies combined) I lost out on another 3-5 four or five star recruits where I began the season in their top-3 with high interest only to lose out in the end to another school. It's EXTREMELY frustrating and I just want to know if I'm doing something wrong or if recruiting is just that hard. I don't want to have to continually fill my open roster spots with last minute JUCO signees when I work my way up to a big-time program in my closed legacy.

                    You didn't do anything worng Its a crapshoot.But there are some factor's to:

                    Playing time.(Base off of the people already on the team.I.E. If you have 5JR & 5SO and there weaker they'll go to the school where they get playing time.If you have a SR heavy time they'll go to your school.)

                    There other things to.But like I said its a Crap shoot.(Somebody else will say other things to.)

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                    • hoopla32
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2760

                      #40
                      Re: recruiting help?

                      Originally posted by lofeazy
                      You didn't do anything worng Its a crapshoot.But there are some factor's to:

                      Playing time.(Base off of the people already on the team.I.E. If you have 5JR & 5SO and there weaker they'll go to the school where they get playing time.If you have a SR heavy time they'll go to your school.)

                      There other things to.But like I said its a Crap shoot.(Somebody else will say other things to.)
                      But the thing is, not only did I lose out on the three recruits (6 in total when you combined the legacies) that I created, but I also essentially lost out on almost every other 4* and 5* player I was recruiting. And this was at North Carolina and Kansas.

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                      • lofeazy
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #41
                        Re: recruiting help?

                        Originally posted by hoopla32
                        But the thing is, not only did I lose out on the three recruits (6 in total when you combined the legacies) that I created, but I also essentially lost out on almost every other 4* and 5* player I was recruiting. And this was at North Carolina and Kansas.
                        I have to ask you this so I can get a better ideal what was the rosters like at NC & Kansas?(how many SR,JR,SO,FM you had before you started to recruit the players you made.)

                        (To me it sounds like you just want to over recruit.)

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                        • Jukeman
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                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10955

                          #42
                          Check the recruit's priority list.

                          Also is the recruit you are recruiting play a position that you are already stacked at?

                          Many things factor in when recruiting.


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                          • atpdmv800
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #43
                            Re: recruiting help?

                            its funny comin across a world recruit whose priority is playin close to home lol! like wuts the closest school to Africa??? lmao!

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                            • Jukeman
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                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #44
                              Originally posted by atpdmv800
                              its funny comin across a world recruit whose priority is playin close to home lol! like wuts the closest school to Africa??? lmao!
                              That is prolly why most world recruits end up not getting signed...

                              My friend, you just discovered a bug lol


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                              • baccVols
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2380

                                #45
                                Re: recruiting help?

                                bump........

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