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  • Smokez4DAyz
    Banned
    • Sep 2005
    • 110

    #121
    I don't use and never have used any sliders in a game. I don't adjust what the game makers programmed. 2K series of basketball, as always exceeded expectations and had cutting edge graphics over LIVE Series. You guys still have two buttons to shoot those strange looking shots? lmao. Please never start an EA vs 2k war with basketball, Ea wins with Madden, slightly, but have been way over there head in basketball, please, to reply would prove you're an a hole. 2k basketball has been FOR YEARS better than LIVE, just because you few followers are just catching on, doesn't mean its only been great since you gotta copy, Its been great for years. Same ole LIVE engine, they say its new, they say this and say that, and you still have two buttons to shoot/dunk. still the biggest joke that they can't program shooting animations and get the right one to come out depending on the situation. Two whole buttons to shoot. stupid. Just give me a big ole break about any basketball from LIVE and eA Canada. lmao. lmao. lmao. People that come on forums and post that LIVE has better player models or animation or spacing or control or stats or anything, needs to get Peter Moore's fathead picture off their room wall. EA makes money off an inferior product with inferior people falling for the marketing tricks. made fresh everyday? great. 2K brand basketball just bettter. I'm not 12 or 21 either.

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    • Behindshadows
      CEO - BSG Network
      • Nov 2004
      • 8053

      #122
      Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

      Originally posted by Smokez4DAyz
      I don't use and never have used any sliders in a game. I don't adjust what the game makers programmed. 2K series of basketball, as always exceeded expectations and had cutting edge graphics over LIVE Series. You guys still have two buttons to shoot those strange looking shots? lmao. Please never start an EA vs 2k war with basketball, Ea wins with Madden, slightly, but have been way over there head in basketball, please, to reply would prove you're an a hole. 2k basketball has been FOR YEARS better than LIVE, just because you few followers are just catching on, doesn't mean its only been great since you gotta copy, Its been great for years. Same ole LIVE engine, they say its new, they say this and say that, and you still have two buttons to shoot/dunk. still the biggest joke that they can't program shooting animations and get the right one to come out depending on the situation. Two whole buttons to shoot. stupid. Just give me a big ole break about any basketball from LIVE and eA Canada. lmao. lmao. lmao. People that come on forums and post that LIVE has better player models or animation or spacing or control or stats or anything, needs to get Peter Moore's fathead picture off their room wall. EA makes money off an inferior product with inferior people falling for the marketing tricks. made fresh everyday? great. 2K brand basketball just bettter. I'm not 12 or 21 either.
      Let's begin where you are right and wrong!

      Where you are right!!!


      2k basketball over the years has been the superior basketball and has been kicking the Live series butt.

      How do I know?

      Because I've been one of the biggest 2kfans in history, even did free marketing for them 2 years in a row to boost their series when people were overlooking them.

      Where you are wrong?

      No one is on here trying to hype up Live and EA and all that blah blah! No one is starting a 2k vs EA war!

      We (me, sage, dave, and a lot more) Are some of the biggest 2k guys on the planet that are officially frustrated with the series. Remember with that piece of **** Live 07 came out and the Live nation went into a up roar.

      Well same scenario. 2k9 Great presentation, amazing animations (oh and by the way No one said Live 09 animated better than 2k9)(2k9 has more animations and are more fluid) But Live's graphics engine is better, the footplanting and movement of the players are more realistic.

      For the first time in who knows how long 2k9 has a major sliding issue. And a extremely off balanced A.I.

      Even on default everything Live 09 plays better, with less animations!

      The separate shot buttons on the control scheme doesn't mean it's the same engine. If you know anything about programming you can give any engine the same control scheme. If it ain't broke why fix it. Nothing wrong with have a layup button and a shot button. More control for the user. Free style for the first time in history is controlled by us and not the CPU.

      Where in 2k9. Isomotion is completely broken. Even Ch2k8 has better controls than NBA 2k9.

      Where your wrong even more??? Or should I say Moore!!!!

      You shouldn't be so disrespectful to Peter Moore, because if it wasn't for him, his money and vision. 2ksports series wouldn't exist. It's because of him that they made it as far as they did. He was the original publisher and marketer before Sega gave them to Take-Two! Who have done nothing but run them into the ground.

      See how I love how people come in here and talk a bunch of crap, without knowing the original backgrounds of everything.

      This is why Me, Sage, Tomba, Dave, and a lot more can be less bias and give the opinions. Because we are gamers and fans of series, without the ignorance of the fanboyism.

      Peace and Hair grease...

      Sorry mods for having to post this in reply in the impressions thread.


      I love NCAA Basketball 09 ( again day 1 purchase)
      Last edited by Behindshadows; 11-07-2008, 04:41 AM.

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      • SageInfinite
        Stop The GOAT Talk
        • Jul 2002
        • 11896

        #123
        Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Behindshadows
        Let's begin where you are right and wrong!

        Where you are right!!!


        2k basketball over the years has been the superior basketball and has been kicking the Live series butt.

        How do I know?

        Because I've been one of the biggest 2kfans in history, even did free marketing for them 2 years in a row to boost their series when people were overlooking them.

        Where you are wrong?

        No one is on here trying to hype up Live and EA and all that blah blah! No one is starting a 2k vs EA war!

        We (me, sage, dave, and a lot more) Are some of the biggest 2k guys on the planet that are officially frustrated with the series. Remember with that piece of **** Live 07 came out and the Live nation went into a up roar.

        Well same scenario. 2k9 Great presentation, amazing animations (oh and by the way No one said Live 09 animated better than 2k9)(2k9 has more animations and are more fluid) But Live's graphics engine is better, the footplanting and movement of the players are more realistic.

        For the first time in who knows how long 2k9 has a major sliding issue. And a extremely off balanced A.I.

        Even on default everything Live 09 plays better, with less animations!

        The separate shot buttons on the control scheme doesn't mean it's the same engine. If you know anything about programming you can give any engine the same control scheme. If it ain't broke why fix it. Nothing wrong with have a layup button and a shot button. More control for the user. Free style for the first time in history is controlled by us and not the CPU.

        Where in 2k9. Isomotion is completely broken. Even Ch2k8 has better controls than NBA 2k9.

        Where your wrong even more??? Or should I say Moore!!!!

        You shouldn't be so disrespectful to Peter Moore, because if it wasn't for him, his money and vision. 2ksports series wouldn't exist. It's because of him that they made it as far as they did. He was the original publisher and marketer before Sega gave them to Take-Two! Who have done nothing but run them into the ground.

        See how I love how people come in here and talk a bunch of crap, without knowing the original backgrounds of everything.

        This is why Me, Sage, Tomba, Dave, and a lot more can be less bias and give the opinions. Because we are gamers and fans of series, without the ignorance of the fanboyism.

        Peace and Hair grease...

        Sorry mods for having to post this in reply in the impressions thread.


        I love NCAA Basketball 09 ( again day 1 purchase)
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        • BrianFifaFan
          Semi-retired
          • Oct 2003
          • 4137

          #124
          Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Smokez4DAyz
          I don't use and never have used any sliders in a game. I don't adjust what the game makers programmed. 2K series of basketball, as always exceeded expectations and had cutting edge graphics over LIVE Series. You guys still have two buttons to shoot those strange looking shots? lmao. Please never start an EA vs 2k war with basketball, Ea wins with Madden, slightly, but have been way over there head in basketball, please, to reply would prove you're an a hole. 2k basketball has been FOR YEARS better than LIVE, just because you few followers are just catching on, doesn't mean its only been great since you gotta copy, Its been great for years. Same ole LIVE engine, they say its new, they say this and say that, and you still have two buttons to shoot/dunk. still the biggest joke that they can't program shooting animations and get the right one to come out depending on the situation. Two whole buttons to shoot. stupid. Just give me a big ole break about any basketball from LIVE and eA Canada. lmao. lmao. lmao. People that come on forums and post that LIVE has better player models or animation or spacing or control or stats or anything, needs to get Peter Moore's fathead picture off their room wall. EA makes money off an inferior product with inferior people falling for the marketing tricks. made fresh everyday? great. 2K brand basketball just bettter. I'm not 12 or 21 either.

          Okay, no 2k vs. EA please. Thanks.
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          A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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          • dave374
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 1928

            #125
            Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Behindshadows

            Where you are wrong?
            We (me, sage, dave, and a lot more) Are some of the biggest 2k guys on the planet that are officially frustrated with the series. Remember with that piece of **** Live 07 came out and the Live nation went into a up roar.
            I'm not really frustrated with the 2k series.
            I just enjoy Live more this year.

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            • Behindshadows
              CEO - BSG Network
              • Nov 2004
              • 8053

              #126
              Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

              Originally posted by dave374
              I'm not really frustrated with the 2k series.
              I just enjoy Live more this year.
              Sorry! - Dave not frustrated but is Enjoying Live 09 more!

              Updated lol

              P.S. he likes the NCAA Basketball 09 too! (but don't tell no body!)
              Last edited by Behindshadows; 11-07-2008, 05:12 AM.

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              • dave374
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 1928

                #127
                Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Behindshadows
                Sorry! - Dave not frustrated but is Enjoying Live 09 more!

                Updated lol

                P.S. he likes the NCAA Basketball 09 demo too! (but don't tell no body!)
                Actually ... I haven't even downloaded the demo. I played the full game at the community event and feel spoiled. I probably won't download the demo.
                That said, I think this game is a day one buy.
                I gained a lot of respect for the guys at EA Canada after the community event.
                I know everyone thinks EA is the evil empire (and they may be), but guys like Sean O'Brien, Connor Dougan and Novell Thomas impressed the heck out of me.
                They are trying ... and that's all we can ask.
                I don't see those three as the evil empire - just three guys who want to impress the hell out of us (sports gamers).

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                • elicoleman
                  Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34655

                  #128
                  Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                  Well I just played it and I have mixed feelings.

                  I won't lie, my heart is with CH2K8 and before today, planned on getting a roster update and being content. However, I figured I'd play this and give it a fair shake.

                  I haven't played the EA college basketball series in sometime.

                  Graphics are very nice. Some of the off the ball moves I saw were pretty sweet. I had an up and under that was a thing of beauty.

                  I wasn't a big fan of the controls. I felt better in my 2nd game than my first but something just didn't seem right to me. I felt like I couldn't do certain things.

                  At the end of the day, I'm glad I gave this demo a shot. I certainly have a more positive image of EA's product but I don't think it was enough to move me to a 1st day purchase or even a purchase period. However, with more in-depth impressions after release with perhaps a rental, I could end up getting it.
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                  • Tomba
                    TOMBA IS ONLINE
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 8908

                    #129
                    Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Behindshadows
                    It's poo! And I don't mean Mr. Hankey!

                    It's just not as good as the series has been before. I'll be trading my copy in tomorrow for Gears 2 and I never trade games...

                    But I'm not playing the trash anymore after tonight. I've tried every slider set and rosters file in the 2k threads and its just not working for me anymore. I'm tired of the outdated graphics engine, sliding, no defense, lazy roster updates (so called living rosters) And I'm tired of the CPU cheating you out of victories..I played 2 games tonight where I had big leads and the cpu actually took control of my players where they ran off players on defense and let them score freely. And then had me throwing up numerous air balls from short range. I even had layup that hit the bottom of the rim or the edge on fastbreaks...and they ran it back for a score....2k9 is broken.

                    (BACK ON TOPIC)

                    I love this demo and the footplanting is done extremely well, and presentation is better but needs a few more touches. Classic Teams look classic now, even with the old Chuck Taylor's on....

                    Day 1 purchase and can't wait to begin the roster edits.
                    I respect both you and Sage's opinions but can't disagree more with you on 2k9...

                    I have yet to play the demo but like Dave said i rather play the full game. What i played at the event was impressive if not flawed. The things they said they fixed i truly hope are in the game because it was what we saw that needed to be done for you guys to like it more....

                    one thing i'll say is that the low framerate stutter I saw in the crowd during the event is GONE in that preview demo vid Bshadows!
                    Last edited by Tomba; 11-07-2008, 05:33 AM.
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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28959

                      #130
                      Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                      I just played one half with the classic teams on default varsity.

                      First impression is that this game is a huge improvement over MM08. Anyone who spent a lot of time with MM08 will see that. The graphics, lighting, arenas, courts, etc are all improved. The gameplay and controls are also improved greatly. The animations are improved but are not going to be the strength of this game.

                      The only glitch I saw was when I drove baseline and went up for a dunk and it was blocked out of bounds but somehow it was MSU's ball.

                      I can't get into things to in depth because I've got to run out to see a client, but I'm very, very pleased with this demo. I assume the final build will essentially be the same and if that's the case I will be happy.
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                      • Vince
                        Bow for Bau
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26017

                        #131
                        Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                        CPU fast breaks very well.
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                        • tulsa1
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 61

                          #132
                          Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                          Its great to see old school teams really look like old school teams and I love the fact that we will be able to use them online. 2K missed the boat on this.

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                          • Koolie G
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 1812

                            #133
                            Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                            To get this out of the way I've not played EA basketball for a while. I used to love it, then I went over to 2k and haven't returned.

                            That being said I DL'd the demo and played three or four games last night. I do not like the two button shooting system, but I can probably get used to it. I still think the 2k right stick system, especially for layups and dunks, is the way to go. I couldn't figure out the low post moves and was too lazy to go back and read the button mapping page. The outside jump shots seemed "off". I don't know what it was nor really how to explain it. I just didn't ever get a good feel whether the shot was going in or not. It seemed like a random result, even for good 3 point shooters. I like the tempo meter, except while playing as KY and getting a fast break opportunity it seems as though I was penalized for the fastbreak. That shouldn't be. If I'm pressing and trapping and trying to get quick scores in the last 2 minutes because I'm behind, is that gonna penalize a half court team like KY? Hope not.

                            The coaches suggestions are well implemented. I'm not a big fan of the free throw system, but I'm not sure what system is better. I didn't really run any offensive plays b/c once again I am too unfamiliar with the controls. The Demo is not fantastic, but it is a solid effort. There is enough there to really make me consider purchasing this. I love CH2k8, but I may purchase this one and give it shot. I will wait for some impressions from the guys here before I make my decision, but at least I am talking about an EA basketball game. After re-reading this post it seems negative and that's not really my impression. I like the game, it may just take some getting used to. Hopefully the full game will have enough depth in the dynasty mode to pull me in.
                            Last edited by Koolie G; 11-07-2008, 11:04 AM. Reason: adding left out words
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                            • richie923
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 406

                              #134
                              Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                              I like this demo, but I still dont know whether or not I want Live or NCAA for Christmas. Still can't decide. I guess a lot will depend on if I get rosters for this game.

                              One thing I noticed is I think they have the 5 seconds rule wrong, or the called me for 5 secs when it wasn't at least...I was holding the ball for while and there was a guy on me. Then my controller vibrated and I realized the 5 second rule so then I decided to dribble. So I took a couple dribbles but didn't create separation and was called for 5 secs. I don't think that's the right call. Technically you can hold the ball for 4 secs, dribble the ball for 4 secs, and hold the ball again for 4 secs, without creating separation or getting called for the 5 sec call. Nit picky, yes, but whatever.

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                              • Sausage
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 3905

                                #135
                                Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by Behindshadows
                                I played about 4 games early this morning and it is the NBA Live 09 engine!

                                Some people are just being critical. It does play better than Live 09 and much faster and smoother. As far as the out of bounds passing. Out of all 4 games, I didn't do that 1 time. I have a HD Video I'm uploading and will post later today.

                                Many people went into this looking for a negative, but when you watch this video I created you'll see for yourself.

                                The game is a lot better than I expected!
                                I have not played Live, but I can say that NCAA BBAll 09 is a nice playing game. After several games I have not had the out of bounds pass, but since its there its bound to happen.

                                Controls felt fine to me, I learned quick you have to be in the correct position for crisp passes, and the different freestyle dribble moves.

                                Shooting seemed fine to me, I saw less off balance shots, and good form on most shots.

                                The demo is very deep with 4 teams, different camera angles, difficulty levels, and I enjoy the campus warm-up.

                                I am excited to play this game more after the demo. We may a good game in our hands folks, lets keep an open mind about who the publisher is.

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