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  • jmood88
    Sean Payton: Retribution
    • Jul 2003
    • 34639

    #46
    Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

    Originally posted by Sully
    Come on, jmood. You should know better, bro. If you don't agree with what Erod has to say, that's fine, but contribute to the thread in a positive manner. Your post has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
    Sorry. I really wasn't trying to say anything about erod but I hate dan patrick.
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    • RockinDaMike
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      • Feb 2003
      • 9092

      #47
      Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

      Originally posted by jmood88
      Dan Patrick really is an *******.

      i would take Dan Patrick's analysis over yours anyday.

      Detroit and Indiana have been boring to watch but its also frustrating when the Suns leave people open and let players take rebounds over them all game long. it all comes to a balance some way or another. Another point is that Joe Johnson is out and he always guards the best guard on the team...even if its someone small and quick like AI.
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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #48
        Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

        i would take Dan Patrick's analysis over yours anyday.
        Ok?
        Originally posted by Blzer
        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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        • poster
          All Star
          • Nov 2003
          • 7506

          #49
          Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

          Originally posted by Graphik
          I dont remember to many Bulls games where the end of 1st quater score was 11-17.
          Hey man, its all about wins and losses. I dont care how they win as long as they do it.

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          • poster
            All Star
            • Nov 2003
            • 7506

            #50
            Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

            Originally posted by RahKhem
            It's funny how everybody said that either Detroit or Indiana would have had no shot against the Lakers because their offenses were so horrible, but we all know how that turned out. Erod, c'mon man, you may not like the defensive struggles that go on out here in the East, but don't hate so blatantly like that.
            When the Pistons beat Indiana last year I said they will be eager to play LA because LA doesnt play defense like Jersey and Indy did. The result was clear, and I belive if we beat Indy you will see the same thing against a weaker Miami defense.

            I think people are just jealous that a team like Detroit and Indiana and SA can win with defense. I didnt hear anyone calling LA's offense garbage after Detroit held them 15 points under their season average in the finals. How did Detroit's offense look then. They looked like Phoenix they had so many fastbreak points. I lost count. I guess that doesnt count for anything to clowns like Dan Patrick who is still pissed they are the best.

            Defense wins championships just like in any other sport. In the Bulls hayday they were the best defensive team in the league. Jordan could score at will so no one complained about their offense. They didnt have prolonged scoring droughts because of him. The Pistons don't have 1 unreal star so this is how they have to win. Sometimes its ugly but they got the hardware to prove its legit. If people dont like it then have someone who is suppost to be better than them beat them. I am still waiting.

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            • snepp
              We'll waste him too.
              • Apr 2003
              • 10007

              #51
              Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

              Originally posted by poster
              I guess that doesnt count for anything to clowns like Dan Patrick who is still pissed they are the best.
              Patrick is a clown. He should leave the analysis to the analysts and stick to what he does best, goading those he interviews into confrontational or controversial answers/remarks.
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              • jmood88
                Sean Payton: Retribution
                • Jul 2003
                • 34639

                #52
                Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                Originally posted by snepp
                Patrick is a clown. He should leave the analysis to the analysts and stick to what he does best, goading those he interviews into confrontational or controversial answers/remarks.
                That's exactly why I don't like him. He is a terrible interviewer.
                Originally posted by Blzer
                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                • snepp
                  We'll waste him too.
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 10007

                  #53
                  Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                  Originally posted by jmood88
                  That's exactly why I don't like him. He is a terrible interviewer.
                  I don't know, "terrible" might be giving him a little too much credit...
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                  • Vince
                    Bow for Bau
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 26017

                    #54
                    Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                    For once, I will agree with Mood and say Patrick sucks.And just because he agrees with you,doesn't really mean anything.
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                    • Nivek
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7999

                      #55
                      Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                      Erod...just give it up mate.

                      Just man up and say you were wrong. This is a message forum, no one cares about e-cred.
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                      • jakobslad
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 376

                        #56
                        Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                        Originally posted by poster
                        When the Pistons beat Indiana last year I said they will be eager to play LA because LA doesnt play defense like Jersey and Indy did. The result was clear, and I belive if we beat Indy you will see the same thing against a weaker Miami defense.

                        I think people are just jealous that a team like Detroit and Indiana and SA can win with defense. I didnt hear anyone calling LA's offense garbage after Detroit held them 15 points under their season average in the finals. How did Detroit's offense look then. They looked like Phoenix they had so many fastbreak points. I lost count. I guess that doesnt count for anything to clowns like Dan Patrick who is still pissed they are the best.

                        Defense wins championships just like in any other sport. In the Bulls hayday they were the best defensive team in the league. Jordan could score at will so no one complained about their offense. They didnt have prolonged scoring droughts because of him. The Pistons don't have 1 unreal star so this is how they have to win. Sometimes its ugly but they got the hardware to prove its legit. If people dont like it then have someone who is suppost to be better than them beat them. I am still waiting.
                        Miami's defense is not all that bad. I expect your team to take care of the Pacers next game but you guys will have your hands full with Miami. Wade will probably end up being guarded by Prince(a matchup that could go either way on any given night) so the X factor in all this is how effective Shaq can be. If he's not at least 75-80% by the time that series starts I'd expect your Pistons to win in no more than 5-6. Even if he is healthy, I'd still see the Heat on the short end of the stick at the end of the series. I'm rooting for them but Detroit is a great basketball "team". That's why I'd say they have the advantage despite some of their shortcomings off the bench.
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                        • nkhera1
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5913

                          #57
                          Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                          Originally posted by poster
                          The Pistons destroyed Phoenix once and gave the game away the second time. They killed them on the offensive boards in the two games. No team will run anyone out of the gym when you get killed on the offensive boards.
                          Yeah the game in which they "destroyed" Phoenix was when Nash was out. Thats the equivalent of having Ben Wallace out for the Pistons. I love it how everytime a team loses their fans always say we gave away a game. I think the Suns gave away the first game they lost and every other game that they lost this year. If they tried their hardest every day they would have gone 82-0. Besides the Suns were able to shoot 46% in the second game which is about what their average is so I think that Phoenix is a better team than they are given credit for.
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                          • poster
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 7506

                            #58
                            Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                            Originally posted by nkhera1
                            Yeah the game in which they "destroyed" Phoenix was when Nash was out. Thats the equivalent of having Ben Wallace out for the Pistons. I love it how everytime a team loses their fans always say we gave away a game. I think the Suns gave away the first game they lost and every other game that they lost this year. If they tried their hardest every day they would have gone 82-0. Besides the Suns were able to shoot 46% in the second game which is about what their average is so I think that Phoenix is a better team than they are given credit for.
                            What else do you call losing a ten point lead that was maintained for 3 quarters. The Pistons lost 3 games(I think) all year when leading after 3. They lost to Miami and Phoenix the same way, blowing leads when they controlled the game for 3 quarters. Its obvious we are looking at it from both sides of the fence here. I never said they were not a good team. I responded to the pathatic original post saying Phoenix or Dallas would blow Det or Indy out of the gym. You know it was laughable, so laugh.

                            The Nash game would have been a whitewash regardless. That was the best the Piston offense played all year. Regardless they were up 30 all game(Darko and the boys lost it in mopup time) so with Nash maybe its shaved down to 15. Give the Pistons some credit, the rings aren't fake.

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                            • poster
                              All Star
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 7506

                              #59
                              Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                              Originally posted by jakobslad
                              Miami's defense is not all that bad. I expect your team to take care of the Pacers next game but you guys will have your hands full with Miami. Wade will probably end up being guarded by Prince(a matchup that could go either way on any given night) so the X factor in all this is how effective Shaq can be. If he's not at least 75-80% by the time that series starts I'd expect your Pistons to win in no more than 5-6. Even if he is healthy, I'd still see the Heat on the short end of the stick at the end of the series. I'm rooting for them but Detroit is a great basketball "team". That's why I'd say they have the advantage despite some of their shortcomings off the bench.
                              It will be tough, I dont know how they will stop Wade but I think Tay can do it. My defense comment was just stating it isnt as tough as Indy's D. Should be fun

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                              • nkhera1
                                All Star
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5913

                                #60
                                Re: Defense?.....or just bad basketball

                                Originally posted by poster
                                What else do you call losing a ten point lead that was maintained for 3 quarters. The Pistons lost 3 games(I think) all year when leading after 3. They lost to Miami and Phoenix the same way, blowing leads when they controlled the game for 3 quarters. Its obvious we are looking at it from both sides of the fence here. I never said they were not a good team. I responded to the pathatic original post saying Phoenix or Dallas would blow Det or Indy out of the gym. You know it was laughable, so laugh.

                                The Nash game would have been a whitewash regardless. That was the best the Piston offense played all year. Regardless they were up 30 all game(Darko and the boys lost it in mopup time) so with Nash maybe its shaved down to 15. Give the Pistons some credit, the rings aren't fake.
                                Wow I can just come up and say if the Suns had played like that all 4 quarters they would have won by 45. They didn't hold the lead because Phoenix was good enough to score on them. You expect them to hold leads against not so good teams, but Phoenix is a good team and they are notorious for going on strecthes where they play good D and play well on offense. One time against the Warriors they had a 24-3 in the 4th qtr to seal the deal. This was probably just one of the those times when the Suns were playing inspired.

                                The best offense the Pistons played all year and they shot 38%. Thats not a good sign besides the suns had just had their first losing streak of more than 3 games which happened right when steve nash was out. Thats not a coincedence.
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