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  • dieselboy
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    • Dec 2002
    • 18040

    #1

    Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

    Based on the numbers, one could make the argument that Tim Duncan's best season was his rookie season.

    Check the numbers.
  • keRplunK
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 4080

    #2
    Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

    Originally posted by dieselboy
    Based on the numbers, one could make the argument that Tim Duncan's best season was his rookie season.

    Check the numbers.
    You should probably post them...if you're going to make a thread about it.

    Anyways, David Robinson was a damn good player back then and probably helped a little.

    But Duncan has basically stayed the same great player his whole career. Except he whines more now, and gets more calls.

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    • olec
      Rookie
      • Oct 2002
      • 181

      #3
      Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

      ^ very true!
      that is the best thing about him,.. his consistency

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      • X*Cell
        Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
        • Sep 2002
        • 8107

        #4
        Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

        Duncan will most definetely go down in history as one of the 25 best players to ever play in the NBA... and it was evident that it would happen since we saw him first in his rookie season... but this guy never lets up.
        SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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        • ShaKobe
          G* L*k* Sh*w!!!
          • Sep 2002
          • 2964

          #5
          Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

          I'll put up his numbers over the years. Or, you could look HERE

          '97-'98 (Rookie Year)
          21.1 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 2.7 apg, .67 spg, 2.51 bpg, .549 fg%, .662 ft%, 3.40 topg, 82 games @ 39.1 mpg
          '98-'99 (1st championship year)
          21.7 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, .90 spg, 2.52 bpg, .495 fg%, .690 ft%, 2.92 topg, 50 games @ 39.3 mpg
          '99-'00
          23.2 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, .89 spg, 2.23 bpg, .490 fg%, .761 ft%, 3.27 topg, 74 games @ 38.9 mpg
          '00-'01
          22.2 ppg, 12.2 rpg, 3.0 apg, .85 spg, 2.34 bpg, .499 fg%, .618 ft%, 2.95 topg, 82 games @ 38.7 mpg
          '01-'02 (1st MVP year)
          25.5 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, .74 spg, 2.48 bpg, .508 fg%, .799 ft%, 3.21 topg, 82 games @ 40.6 mpg
          '02-'03 (2nd MVP year, 2nd championship year)
          23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, .68 spg, 2.93 bpg, .513 fg%, .710 ft%, 3.06 topg, 81 games @ 39.3 mpg
          '03-'04
          22.3 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.1 apg, .90 spg, 2.68 bpg, .501 fg%, .599 ft%, 2.65 topg, 69 games @ 36.6 mpg
          '04-'05
          20.3 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 2.7 apg, .68 spg, 2.64 bpg, .496 fg%, .670 ft%, 1.92 topg, 66 games @ 33.4 mpg

          Career Numbers
          22.5 ppg, 12.2 rpg, 3.1 apg, .78 spg, 2.50 bpg, .507 fg%, .692 ft%, 2.95 topg, 585 starts out of a total 586 games played @ 38.3 mpg.

          His career playoff numbers
          24.0 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.7 apg, .68 spg, 2.84 bpg, .502 fg%, .704 ft%, 3.33 topg, 97 games @ 41.1 mpg


          He is definitely consistent.

          As for the comment in the first post, I assume you're only comparing his rookie year and this year's numbers. If that is the case, then yes, his rookie year was the better of the two. Tho, I don't think he had to deal with as many injuries as he's had this year.

          And as for his best year, I think it was the year that he won his first MVP award in the 2001-2002 season.

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          • Kashanova
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 12695

            #6
            Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

            Originally posted by ShaKobe
            I'll put up his numbers over the years. Or, you could look HERE

            '97-'98 (Rookie Year)
            21.1 ppg, 11.9 rpg, 2.7 apg, .67 spg, 2.51 bpg, .549 fg%, .662 ft%, 3.40 topg, 82 games @ 39.1 mpg
            '98-'99 (1st championship year)
            21.7 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, .90 spg, 2.52 bpg, .495 fg%, .690 ft%, 2.92 topg, 50 games @ 39.3 mpg
            '99-'00
            23.2 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, .89 spg, 2.23 bpg, .490 fg%, .761 ft%, 3.27 topg, 74 games @ 38.9 mpg
            '00-'01
            22.2 ppg, 12.2 rpg, 3.0 apg, .85 spg, 2.34 bpg, .499 fg%, .618 ft%, 2.95 topg, 82 games @ 38.7 mpg
            '01-'02 (1st MVP year)
            25.5 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, .74 spg, 2.48 bpg, .508 fg%, .799 ft%, 3.21 topg, 82 games @ 40.6 mpg
            '02-'03 (2nd MVP year, 2nd championship year)
            23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.9 apg, .68 spg, 2.93 bpg, .513 fg%, .710 ft%, 3.06 topg, 81 games @ 39.3 mpg
            '03-'04
            22.3 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.1 apg, .90 spg, 2.68 bpg, .501 fg%, .599 ft%, 2.65 topg, 69 games @ 36.6 mpg
            '04-'05
            20.3 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 2.7 apg, .68 spg, 2.64 bpg, .496 fg%, .670 ft%, 1.92 topg, 66 games @ 33.4 mpg

            Career Numbers
            22.5 ppg, 12.2 rpg, 3.1 apg, .78 spg, 2.50 bpg, .507 fg%, .692 ft%, 2.95 topg, 585 starts out of a total 586 games played @ 38.3 mpg.

            His career playoff numbers
            24.0 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 3.7 apg, .68 spg, 2.84 bpg, .502 fg%, .704 ft%, 3.33 topg, 97 games @ 41.1 mpg


            He is definitely consistent.

            As for the comment in the first post, I assume you're only comparing his rookie year and this year's numbers. If that is the case, then yes, his rookie year was the better of the two. Tho, I don't think he had to deal with as many injuries as he's had this year.

            And as for his best year, I think it was the year that he won his first MVP award in the 2001-2002 season.
            yea that was his best year but i thought kidd deserved the mvp that year, and now more then ever after nash won the mvp this year

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            • ShaKobe
              G* L*k* Sh*w!!!
              • Sep 2002
              • 2964

              #7
              Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

              Originally posted by Kashanova
              yea that was his best year but i thought kidd deserved the mvp that year, and now more then ever after nash won the mvp this year
              I agree. Kidd really did deserve it that year. And the next year, I thought that KG deserved it more. Oh well.

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              • Admiral50
                Banned
                • Aug 2002
                • 3311

                #8
                Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                Numbers aren't that important. I've seen Duncan since day one, earlier actually and he is such a better player this season than his rookie year. Much, much better.

                With the improvement of Parker and Manu and better bench players, he only had to play 33 minutes a game, by far his career low. Watching the Spurs win so many games, you will notice he sits A LOT in the fourth qtr of games. Often he has his game stats at the end of the 3rd. Add to that, he is very unselfish. In blowout wins or games against lowely defenders, he rarely feels the need to score big. If they have the win then he's happy.

                Look at the whole picture he people, not just numbers.

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                • RubenDouglas
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • May 2003
                  • 11202

                  #9
                  Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                  you also gotta look at FT attempts and FG attempts to his %. He shot almost a career high when he made 80% of his FT's.

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                  • X*Cell
                    Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 8107

                    #10
                    Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                    2001-2002 was his best season... good job Duncan!
                    SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                    • DW Rutledge
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 686

                      #11
                      Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                      when it's all over with, Duncan will be a top 10, maybe top 5 player of all time.

                      at this point it just depends on how many championships he wins.

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                      • bball_1523
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 5344

                        #12
                        Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                        Originally posted by Admiral50
                        Numbers aren't that important. I've seen Duncan since day one, earlier actually and he is such a better player this season than his rookie year. Much, much better.

                        With the improvement of Parker and Manu and better bench players, he only had to play 33 minutes a game, by far his career low. Watching the Spurs win so many games, you will notice he sits A LOT in the fourth qtr of games. Often he has his game stats at the end of the 3rd. Add to that, he is very unselfish. In blowout wins or games against lowely defenders, he rarely feels the need to score big. If they have the win then he's happy.

                        Look at the whole picture he people, not just numbers.
                        I agree, and I also think this is a pointless thread because numbers are merely just one piece of a great player.

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                        • dieselboy
                          --------------
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 18040

                          #13
                          Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                          Originally posted by DW Rutledge
                          when it's all over with, Duncan will be a top 10, maybe top 5 player of all time.

                          at this point it just depends on how many championships he wins.
                          Wow, wow, wow. Slow down.

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                          • DW Rutledge
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 686

                            #14
                            Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                            he's already the best pf ever. in my book he's slightly behind hakeem, but if he gets another title, that will put him in front of even olajuwon.

                            1 jordan
                            2 russell
                            3 chamberlain
                            4 bird
                            5 magic
                            6 kareem
                            7 shaq
                            8 olajuwon
                            9 duncan
                            10 dr j

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                            • X*Cell
                              Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 8107

                              #15
                              Re: Tim Duncan: 97 vs. 05

                              Originally posted by DW Rutledge
                              he's already the best pf ever. in my book he's slightly behind hakeem, but if he gets another title, that will put him in front of even olajuwon.

                              1 jordan
                              2 russell
                              3 chamberlain
                              4 bird
                              5 magic
                              6 kareem
                              7 shaq
                              8 olajuwon
                              9 duncan
                              10 dr j
                              I still think Malone has the edge, because the amount of games he played... but once Duncan gets further down the road... HE WILL BE the BEST PF who ever played the game!
                              SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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