NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

[arenas809]

Ok, I think most if not all of us have believed that the dunk/layup vs shot tendency slider is for when guys are around the basket, will they dunk it or just shoot it...after doing a little 5 game test, this is the conclusion I came to...and most of this I knew before, but this clarified it for me...

In a post I made under my sliders settings topic, i stated that dunking around the basket has to do with dunk rating and not just the slider, and its true, but the slider actually has NOTHING to do with it at all...if you want to test out what i'm saying, take a big man, PF or C, and make his dunk rating 90...you will see him dunk more when he's right by the basket, as opposed to doing some short fadeaway or some of the other garbage they do when they could just dunk it...

This slider actually affects what the team is trying to do...if you max out the slider the CPU home/away team will look to get the ball close to the basket for dunks and layups, thus you will see them score a lot of points in the paint...

If you lower this slider completely, you'll see the computer looking for jumpshots, so they set a lot of screens, in Dallas's case, they set screens at the top for Nowitski, Van Exel, and even Lafrentz up top for 3s when I was trying to test this out...

Anyway test it out and you'll see for yourself, take a big man, make his dunk rating, 90-95, max out the slider, and you'll see him dunk the ball more close to the basket, empty the slider, and you'll STILL see him dunk the ball close to the basket, the difference you will see is the CPU's points in the paint, they work for J's up top, but if the oppurtunity is there they will dump it in...empty the slider, and be ready to get through a lot of picks all game long...

[HotSauce2k3]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Since your sliders are the most accurate, what would you recommend for this slider?

I heeded to your older settings and maxed it out, and the game seemed to play just fine. Not too many points in the paint and good amount of perimeter shots, but I'll try it out in my next game.

Thanks.

[Padgoi]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Well, I had this all the way up so the computer would dunk the ball in the paint and they do. However, I still have this all the way up and the computer takes plenty of jumpers against me. I do have medium shot tendency a bit higher than the others. So Arenas, what is your input on this? Where would you set this slider?

[HotSauce2k3]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

bump

[Padgoi]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Hey fellas, Well I checked this out and here are my findings:
Arenas, I appreciate everything you've done, especially with the slider settings, but I feel you are wrong on this one. I raised my dunk/layup vs. shot slider to the max and every time Kwame Brown touched the ball near the basket, he went for a dunk. I then put the same slider at zero and tested it out and sure enough, Kwame stopped dunking near the basket. In fact, every time he touched the ball near the basket, he would stop and pop for a 1-footer. I then tried it again just to be sure and got the same result. Unfortunately, Arenas may be incorrect on this one as I am sure this slider has to do with whether or not your players will dunk the ball when underneath the basket.

[arenas809]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

funny thing is I have a season with the Wizards, and ya Kwame does dunk it around the basket, he was doing it for me whether the slider was on or not...so let's let some more people test it out for themselves before calling me wrong...obviously I tested both ways before I came on here with my findings..thanks.

[arenas809]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Padgoi, if u want to even take it another level, what sense would a slider like that make?? What would make sega say hey lets let people choose whether or not they want to dunk around the basket...if u think about it, it makes no sense, and the slider is called dunk/layup vs. shot tendency, in just those words to me it says a dunk or layup vs. a shot...which means do i look for the dunk/layup more than i do a shot, if you look at the sliders AI Close Shot, AI Medium Shot, AI 3PT shot tendency, tendency being the key word that means how often or not they will go for those shots, if you turn up AI dunk/layup tendency all the way, that has nothing to do with the ability to do a dunk or layup, but thats what they're look for on offense, a dunk or layuo...I mean really I didn't even have to make that point, if u really think about a slider for that makes no sense, yes please sega, instead of having shaq dunk over everyone 1 ft away from the basket, I want him to shoot a 1 footer the same way he would shoot a FT...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

isnt it dunk/layup vs. close shot tendency? there would be a big difference between that and dunk/layup vs. shot tendec.

[arenas809]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

there would be a big difference but no, its called dunk/layup vs shot tendency, just plain shot, not close, medium, 3, granny....just shot.

[MrScary]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Could u post your sliders again i would really like to try them.

[BigTigLSU]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

Arenas I think you might be off on this one. It seems that from testing it that its the tendecy for a player to attempt a layup/dunk versus a jump shot in the paint. AI tendency is different it is the actual tendency for a player to look for a type of shot. Now something I notice if you put the the dunk vs layup tendency low it will go for layup only. I notice when I hit cutting players in the lane and go for the shot the attempt layups instead of pulling up for shots.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

you are saying that when the slider is low, you dunk and layup more than jump shot in the paint. and the opposite for when the slider is full?

[arenas809]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

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Play at what you this is best man...it doesn't matter where my slider is at...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

i dont think the slider is a percentage of whether the cpu takes jumpers or dunks/layups. I think it changes whether a player will shoot or dunk/layup depending on their position. For example, when i had the slider all the way up, i would be right under basket, and my players would not dunk. They would shoot little jumpers. When the slider was all the way down, there were bad results too. For example, i was playing the Lakers, and Shaq had the ball at the foul line. Instead of shooting a jumper, he started a layup. and it was some type of layup a PG would do(i know the layup type doesnt have anything to do with the sliders). We need to find some type of balancwe with this slider. Post if you come up with anything.

[arenas809]

Re: NBA 2K3: Dunk/Layup vs. Shot Tendency Slider Clarification

I still believe most of you aren't asking yourselves, hmm would a slider like this even make sense? Like I said before, Sega, could I please lower a slider so that Shaq doesn't dunk 1 ft from the basket? Instead I'd like him to shoot it like a 18 ft jumper...what sense does that make? Anyway who cares, I play with it filled up, I just noticed different things when the slider was low and it wasn't the dunk stuff.