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  • SonicMage
    NBA Ratings Wizard
    • Oct 2002
    • 3544

    #1

    Greatest All-Time Franchise Teams: DAL-HOU

    Dallas
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    C - Sam Perkins
    PF - Dirk Nowitzki
    SF - Mark Aguirre
    SG - Rolando Blackman
    PG - Derek Harper
    6 - Michael Finley - SG
    7 - Jason Kidd - PG
    8 - Jim Jackson - SG
    9 - Jamal Mashburn - SF
    10 - Jay Vincent - SF
    11 - Steve Nash - PG
    12 - Roy Tarpley - C
    13 - James Donaldson - C
    14 - Brad Davis - SG
    15 - Shawn Bradley - C

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Josh Howard/20, Antoine Walker/22, Nick Van Exel/25, Jason Terry/30, Marquis Daniels/41

    Denver
    ---------

    C - Dan Issel
    PF - Kiki Vandeweghe
    SF - Alex English
    SG - David Thompson
    PG - Fat Lever
    6 - Larry Jones - SG
    7 - Nick Van Exel - PG
    8 - Antonio McDyess - PF
    9 - Michael Adams - PG
    10 - Dikembe Mutombo - C
    11 - Ralph Simpson - SG
    12 - Bobby Jones - PF
    13 - Laphonso Ellis - PF
    14 - Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - PG
    15 - Reggie Williams - SF

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Carmelo Anthony/18, Spencer Haywood/19, Bryant Stith/24, Andre Miller/25, Marcus Camby/32, Nene/41

    Detroit
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    C - Bob Lanier
    PF - Bailey Howell
    SF - Grant Hill
    SG - Joe Dumars
    PG - Isiah Thomas
    6 - Dave Bing - PG
    7 - George Yardley - SF
    8 - Dave DeBusschere - SF
    9 - Jerry Stackhouse - SG
    10 - Ray Scott - PF
    11 - Kelly Tripucka - SF
    12 - Larry Foust - C
    13 - Gene Shue - SG
    14 - Bill Laimbeer - C
    15 - Vinnie Johnson - SG

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Dennis Rodman/16, Ben Wallace/17, Richard Hamilton/20, Chauncey Billups/22,
    Rasheed Wallace/43, Tayshaun Prince/45

    Golden State
    ------------

    C - Wilt Chamberlain
    PF - Nate Thurmond
    SF - Rick Barry
    SG - Paul Arizin
    PG - Tim Hardaway
    6 - Neil Johnston - C
    7 - Joe Barry Carroll - C
    8 - Antawn Jamison - PF
    9 - Latrell Sprewell - SG
    10 - Sleepy Floyd - PG
    11 - Chris Mullin - SF
    12 - Tom Gola - SG
    13 - Purvis Short - SF
    14 - Guy Rodgers - PG
    15 - Jeff Mullins - SG

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Mitch Richmond/21, Jason Richardson/22, Joe Smith/34, Troy Murphy/44, Mike Dunleavy/56, Chris Webber/57

    Houston
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    C - Hakeem Olajuwon
    PF - Moses Malone
    SF - Rudy Tomjanovich
    SG - Clyde Drexler
    PG - Calvin Murphy
    6 - Elvin Hayes - PF
    7 - Ralph Sampson - C
    8 - Charles Barkley - PF
    9 - Steve Francis - PG
    10 - Otis Thorpe - PF
    11 - Cuttino Mobley - SG
    12 - Rodney McCray - SF
    13 - Vernon Maxwell - SG
    14 - Mike Newlin - SG
    15 - Robert Reid - SF

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Kenny Smith/16, Yao Ming/18, Stu Lantz/22, Tracy McGrady/26, Robert Horry/27
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  • Playmakers
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 15418

    #2
    Re: Greatest All-Time Franchise Teams: DAL-HOU

    Originally posted by Sonicmage
    Dallas
    ---------

    C - Sam Perkins
    PF - Dirk Nowitzki
    SF - Mark Aguirre
    SG - Rolando Blackman
    PG - Derek Harper
    6 - Michael Finley - SG
    7 - Jason Kidd - PG
    8 - Jim Jackson - SG
    9 - Jamal Mashburn - SF
    10 - Jay Vincent - SF
    11 - Steve Nash - PG
    12 - Roy Tarpley - C
    13 - James Donaldson - C
    14 - Brad Davis - SG
    15 - Shawn Bradley - C

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Josh Howard/20, Antoine Walker/22, Nick Van Exel/25, Jason Terry/30, Marquis Daniels/41

    Denver
    ---------

    C - Dan Issel
    PF - Kiki Vandeweghe
    SF - Alex English
    SG - David Thompson
    PG - Fat Lever
    6 - Larry Jones - SG
    7 - Nick Van Exel - PG
    8 - Antonio McDyess - PF
    9 - Michael Adams - PG
    10 - Dikembe Mutombo - C
    11 - Ralph Simpson - SG
    12 - Bobby Jones - PF
    13 - Laphonso Ellis - PF
    14 - Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - PG
    15 - Reggie Williams - SF

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Carmelo Anthony/18, Spencer Haywood/19, Bryant Stith/24, Andre Miller/25, Marcus Camby/32, Nene/41

    Detroit
    ---------

    C - Bob Lanier
    PF - Bailey Howell
    SF - Grant Hill
    SG - Joe Dumars
    PG - Isiah Thomas
    6 - Dave Bing - PG
    7 - George Yardley - SF
    8 - Dave DeBusschere - SF
    9 - Jerry Stackhouse - SG
    10 - Ray Scott - PF
    11 - Kelly Tripucka - SF
    12 - Larry Foust - C
    13 - Gene Shue - SG
    14 - Bill Laimbeer - C
    15 - Vinnie Johnson - SG

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Dennis Rodman/16, Ben Wallace/17, Richard Hamilton/20, Chauncey Billups/22,
    Rasheed Wallace/43, Tayshaun Prince/45

    Golden State
    ------------

    C - Wilt Chamberlain
    PF - Nate Thurmond
    SF - Rick Barry
    SG - Paul Arizin
    PG - Tim Hardaway
    6 - Neil Johnston - C
    7 - Joe Barry Carroll - C
    8 - Antawn Jamison - PF
    9 - Latrell Sprewell - SG
    10 - Sleepy Floyd - PG
    11 - Chris Mullin - SF
    12 - Tom Gola - SG
    13 - Purvis Short - SF
    14 - Guy Rodgers - PG
    15 - Jeff Mullins - SG

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Mitch Richmond/21, Jason Richardson/22, Joe Smith/34, Troy Murphy/44, Mike Dunleavy/56, Chris Webber/57

    Houston
    -------

    C - Hakeem Olajuwon
    PF - Moses Malone
    SF - Rudy Tomjanovich
    SG - Clyde Drexler
    PG - Calvin Murphy
    6 - Elvin Hayes - PF
    7 - Ralph Sampson - C
    8 - Charles Barkley - PF
    9 - Steve Francis - PG
    10 - Otis Thorpe - PF
    11 - Cuttino Mobley - SG
    12 - Rodney McCray - SF
    13 - Vernon Maxwell - SG
    14 - Mike Newlin - SG
    15 - Robert Reid - SF

    Honorable Mentions (Name/Franchise Rank):
    Kenny Smith/16, Yao Ming/18, Stu Lantz/22, Tracy McGrady/26, Robert Horry/27

    I would scratch Shawn Bradley for Dallas and replace him with Detlepf Schremp who played both SF/PF and also Either Tarpley or Donaldson would start at Center over Perkins who would then backup Dirk.
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    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #3
      Re: Greatest All-Time Franchise Teams: DAL-HOU

      Originally posted by Playmakers
      I would scratch Shawn Bradley for Dallas and replace him with Detlepf Schremp who played both SF/PF and also Either Tarpley or Donaldson would start at Center over Perkins who would then backup Dirk.
      Thats not how the scoring works though. My scoring will take tenure into account as well as ability, like I said. Bradley played for the Mavs for eight and a half seasons while Schrempf only played three and a half. Plus, their PAR per game were pretty close. Bradley actually has twice the score of Schrempf in my list. Schrempf is ranked 28, by the way. If I wanted to replace Bradley with anyone, the two guys who are next in line here are Popeye Jones and Pat Cummings, but Bradley has a much higher total PAR than either of them. It looks as though eventually Josh Howard will be booting Shawn from the list.

      Lineups were determined by scoring, too. For the starters, I looked who had the highest score at each position and then for the bench, I sorted it by PAR per game. I could have put in Tarpley instead of Perkins at starting center because he had a higher PAR per game but then there would be no one to back Tarpley up at center. Donaldson did not deserve to be on the active reserves over anyone who is already there. Its better that there is no definitive backup PF because Dirk would demand more minutes than Perkins or Tarpley.
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      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
      Link to Ratings All-time

      Discussion found here

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      • Pointguard
        MVP
        • Jun 2005
        • 2977

        #4
        Re: Greatest All-Time Franchise Teams: DAL-HOU

        Thats very kool to look at.

        I expect Devin Harris and Josh Howard to work their way up that list.

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