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  • dieselboy
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    • Dec 2002
    • 18040

    #1

    Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-060127
  • garnettrules21
    MVP
    • Oct 2003
    • 2392

    #2
    Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

    pretty good article, i personally don't know who i'd choose. probably neither.

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    • Vince
      Bow for Bau
      • Aug 2002
      • 26017

      #3
      Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

      Davis...This is not close at all. Ricky is a better player, shorter contract and doesn't have the volatile personality of a Steve Francis.
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      • cjonesfan921
        UGH, next year
        • Jan 2005
        • 20081

        #4
        Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

        Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
        Davis...This is not close at all. Ricky is a better player, shorter contract and doesn't have the volatile personality of a Steve Francis.
        Right on the money. Davis has become a better player overall.

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        • luv_mist
          Older
          • May 2004
          • 9596

          #5
          Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

          I'd pick Pretty Ricky anyday before the Franchise cause of where the heart is. Ricky got shipped off after Lebron makes an appearance to Cleveland. Then he gets shipped off again after he's making big splashes in Boston. And you know he's going to play his heart out still. Ricky by a million heartbeats.......

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          • dales
            GOAT
            • Feb 2003
            • 1938

            #6
            Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

            Originally posted by luv_mist
            I'd pick Pretty Ricky anyday before the Franchise cause of where the heart is. Ricky got shipped off after Lebron makes an appearance to Cleveland. Then he gets shipped off again after he's making big splashes in Boston. And you know he's going to play his heart out still. Ricky by a million heartbeats.......
            I'd take Ricky, obviously. It sucks that he's gone from the C's but that's the price you have to pay if you want to get rid of Mark Blount.
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            • Pointguard
              MVP
              • Jun 2005
              • 2977

              #7
              Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

              Why woudl Orlando accept Wally Szczerbiak and Trenton Hassell for Stevie? Hassell is one of those role players any team would love to have but what purpose is there to add Wally?

              Orlando has Grant Hill and Hedo Turkoglu at the SF position already and the trade gives them no benefits either by getting younger, better or getting cap relief.

              I doubt ORL woudl have done it anways, unless they were that desprite and I honestly cant see that.

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              • platic
                Rookie
                • Oct 2003
                • 199

                #8
                Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                Originally posted by luv_mist
                I'd pick Pretty Ricky anyday before the Franchise cause of where the heart is. And you know he's going to play his heart out still. Ricky by a million heartbeats.......

                Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Ricky Davis the guy who purposely attempted a shot at his own friggin' basket so he can collect a triple-double from his own rebound?

                I've always thought that was one of the damndest thing I ever saw. It's the first time I ever saw a professional athlete play basketball like he would a videogame.

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                • dales
                  GOAT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1938

                  #9
                  Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                  Originally posted by platic
                  Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Ricky Davis the guy who purposely attempted a shot at his own friggin' basket so he can collect a triple-double from his own rebound?

                  I've always thought that was one of the damndest thing I ever saw. It's the first time I ever saw a professional athlete play basketball like he would a videogame.
                  Yes, that was him. Emphasis on was. He not like that anymore. The man was a first-class citizen in Boston and always did everything that was asked of him. Unfortunately he had to be included in the deal because Blount's contract is such a disaster.
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                  • SonicMage
                    NBA Ratings Wizard
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3544

                    #10
                    Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                    Originally posted by dales
                    Yes, that was him. Emphasis on was. He not like that anymore. The man was a first-class citizen in Boston and always did everything that was asked of him. Unfortunately he had to be included in the deal because Blount's contract is such a disaster.
                    Those kinds of things depend on what team youre on when youre a combustible person.
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                    • HMcCoy
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8212

                      #11
                      Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                      Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                      Davis...This is not close at all. Ricky is a better player, shorter contract and doesn't have the volatile personality of a Steve Francis.
                      Ricky Davis had heated exchanges with LeBron, openly fueded with Paul Silas not once but twice, shot at the wrong basket for a trip dub, made insensitive comments about the Cavs handicapped ownership (that he was made to retract by the Celtics), and cursed out Doc Rivers in a practice in front of a group of visiting children. Suspended at least twice for detrimental conduct. In his last game as a Cav, he blatantly disreguarded Silas' defensive call which led to a wide open gamewinner by Mike Miller. He also pouts about PT if he's not getting enough run.

                      Davis has matured over the last season and a half (after his last suspension) but most of his career he's been the very definition of malcontent. There's a reason he was shipped. Again.

                      I'd take Ricky also for defensive purposes, and since he had actually signed with Minny 3 years ago (Cavs matched) this may be a great fit for his talent...but they're both headcases.
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                      • billmatic
                        Treble Complete
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 7365

                        #12
                        Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                        Originally posted by HMcCoy
                        Ricky Davis had heated exchanges with LeBron, openly fueded with Paul Silas not once but twice, shot at the wrong basket for a trip dub, made insensitive comments about the Cavs handicapped ownership (that he was made to retract by the Celtics), and cursed out Doc Rivers in a practice in front of a group of visiting children. Suspended at least twice for detrimental conduct. In his last game as a Cav, he blatantly disreguarded Silas' defensive call which led to a wide open gamewinner by Mike Miller. He also pouts about PT if he's not getting enough run.

                        Davis has matured over the last season and a half (after his last suspension) but most of his career he's been the very definition of malcontent. There's a reason he was shipped. Again.

                        I'd take Ricky also for defensive purposes, and since he had actually signed with Minny 3 years ago (Cavs matched) this may be a great fit for his talent...but they're both headcases.
                        yeah, people seem to be quick to forget what an *** Davis was just a short while ago.

                        Id probably still take him over Franchise, but if Stevie were to get his head on straight, him and KG would be a scary combo.

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                        • Vince
                          Bow for Bau
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26017

                          #13
                          Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                          Originally posted by HMcCoy
                          Ricky Davis had heated exchanges with LeBron, openly fueded with Paul Silas not once but twice, shot at the wrong basket for a trip dub, made insensitive comments about the Cavs handicapped ownership (that he was made to retract by the Celtics), and cursed out Doc Rivers in a practice in front of a group of visiting children. Suspended at least twice for detrimental conduct. In his last game as a Cav, he blatantly disreguarded Silas' defensive call which led to a wide open gamewinner by Mike Miller. He also pouts about PT if he's not getting enough run.

                          Davis has matured over the last season and a half (after his last suspension) but most of his career he's been the very definition of malcontent. There's a reason he was shipped. Again.

                          I'd take Ricky also for defensive purposes, and since he had actually signed with Minny 3 years ago (Cavs matched) this may be a great fit for his talent...but they're both headcases.
                          And all that was in the past.
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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #14
                            Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                            Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                            And all that was in the past.
                            Yeah...He's been a perfect gentleman for a season and a half now, so hopefully he's grown up some. Ricky and KG...thats a nasty combination also.
                            Last edited by HMcCoy; 01-29-2006, 11:50 PM.
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                            • sense
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 591

                              #15
                              Re: Steve Francis or Ricky Davis?

                              I'd take Stevie. On ability ALONE Stevie is one of the most talented guards in the league. The problem is he can't be a leader of a team he has to be second option for somebody.
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