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  • cdubdiggity
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 1204

    #1

    Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

    SMH...Now this has to be one of the dumbest comments he has ever made...I usually respect his comments but this is just absurd...AI is having possibly the best year he has ever had in the NBA (individually) and he goes and slaps AI in the face by saying that Gilbert "at this stage in his career" is a better player than AI...bull...
  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #2
    Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

    Gilbert: 29.1, 3.4 RPG, 5.8 APG
    AI: 33.2, 3.4 RPG, 7.4 APG

    I don't like stats so much that I would say hands down AI is still a better player than Gilbert at this stage. To me it's a dead heat.. but that's still saying a lot about Arenas.

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #3
      Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

      also, both kenny and charles agreed tonight that the MVP should be between ex teammates Dirk and Nash. i actually agree completely.. nobody else to me is in this race. ultimately nash deserves it more.. i think it's comedy that there's lots of people on this board that don't think dirk deserves it.

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      • cdubdiggity
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 1204

        #4
        Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

        *did not know arenas was @ 29 a game...* I still dont like that comment by Charles...and I still honestly dont see Dirk as a leading MVP candidate...I would say Brand before I would say Dirk...but its not my choice and its only my opinion

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #5
          Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

          Originally posted by cdubdiggity
          *did not know arenas was @ 29 a game...* I still dont like that comment by Charles...and I still honestly dont see Dirk as a leading MVP candidate...I would say Brand before I would say Dirk...but its not my choice and its only my opinion
          i'm not downplaying brand's season (25.1, 10.0 RPG, 2.8 APG)
          at all when i say: sam cassell. the man is doing what he did in minny that one season.. playing out of his mind.. for a contract. anybody who's been closely following the clippers this season will tell you that sam is the underlying reason for the entire team playing better. the major difference i see is the record. the clips are 39-27.

          while in dallas all i can say is: 53-15. 25.9, 8.8 RPG, 2.8 APG.

          and if i had to say who has better talent, the clippers would get my vote over the mavs.

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          • fobbybobby23
            Pro
            • Sep 2004
            • 825

            #6
            Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

            perhaps he means gilbert at this age is better than AI at the same age...

            thats arguable....

            AI this year is playing out of his mind, but he wasnt playing like he is now when he was at 24 years of age, like gilbert is

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            • Muzyk23
              MVP
              • Feb 2003
              • 4192

              #7
              Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

              how can you compare Nba in 1998 or 99 with 2006?
              NBA

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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #8
                Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                Originally posted by Muzyk23
                how can you compare Nba in 1998 or 99 with 2006?
                It's not like much has changed since then.
                Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #9
                  Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                  He didnt mean what you think fobby. He flat out said he's better than AI. I immediately thought about defense, because being a chucker is becoming common with some players now.

                  I wont even go into the entire reason the NBA blows as bad as it does now with the new rules catering to the offensive side of the floor only.

                  Im just saying, let Gilbert win an MVP like AI did before you start these kinds of comparisons

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                  • cdubdiggity
                    MVP
                    • May 2003
                    • 1204

                    #10
                    Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                    But Brand is also having a career year with the Clippers...and I think that Dallas has WAAAY more talent than the Clips do...they have alot of young guys (Josh Howard...Devin Harris...Marquis Daniels and those other two players they just signed due to injury) and they have some of the best scouts in the L if you ask me...only young player on the CLips that stick out in my mind is Shawn Livingston

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                    • Pointguard
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 2977

                      #11
                      Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                      Originally posted by cdubdiggity
                      But Brand is also having a career year with the Clippers...and I think that Dallas has WAAAY more talent than the Clips do...they have alot of young guys (Josh Howard...Devin Harris...Marquis Daniels and those other two players they just signed due to injury) and they have some of the best scouts in the L if you ask me...only young player on the CLips that stick out in my mind is Shawn Livingston
                      Chris Kamen anyone?

                      Dallas hasn't signed any two players recently. Those two D-League players are undrafted rookies that are playing and Dallas is still winning. Youth really isnt a huge factor IMO. A guy like Cuttino Mobley, even at 29 years old, is still twice the player the Mavericks SG, Marquis Daniels is.

                      LA Clippers and Dallas have very similar talent, but Dallas is definately a deeper team which I think makes Dallas the "better" team". But then again, Dallas has a much better record so.....




                      I think I remember having this discussion about Dirk and the MVP a good 2-3 weeks ago. Things havn't changed and unless Phoniex goes on a complete run with Amare and Dallas falters down the stretch, I believe Dirk will be holding that trophy come May.

                      1. Dirk 2. Nash

                      3rd place could be a number of guys, LBJ, Brand or Billups. Kobe probably finishes top 5 as well.


                      As to Arenas and AI, Ai has definately had the better career. Right now they are very similar players with similar skills but I think AI still gets the nod and is the better overall player. Not an outrageous comment but Id disagree.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #12
                        Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                        Originally posted by cdubdiggity
                        But Brand is also having a career year with the Clippers...and I think that Dallas has WAAAY more talent than the Clips do...they have alot of young guys (Josh Howard...Devin Harris...Marquis Daniels and those other two players they just signed due to injury) and they have some of the best scouts in the L if you ask me...only young player on the CLips that stick out in my mind is Shawn Livingston
                        whoaa.. the fact that you say "dallas has waaay more talent than the clips" leads me to believe you don't follow the clippers closely.

                        sam cassell: playing in a contract year, and just doing all the right things
                        cuttino mobely: still that saavy scorer who will take big shots
                        corey maggette: before being injured, was having an all star season
                        kaman: can't blame you for sleeping on him, the guy hardly ever gets the spotlight.. but check the double double games.

                        now for the unknown guys who are basically putting the clippers over the edge into a bonafide playoff team.. Q ross and James Singleton.. both are similar to josh howard and daniels in the sense that they are high energy/efficient players who are team first. both play defense first and foremost but can hit shots too.

                        then you have vlad, shaun livingston, rebraca, and daniel ewing. this team is freaking loaded.. and don't think in any way shape or form have a less talented team on paper than the mavs.

                        the mavs have terry, daniels, howard, van horn, damp, devin harris, griffin and stack. please explain how that is more talent than the clippers. terry is similar to mobely, besides that the clippers individual talent is just superior to the mavs.

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                        • cdubdiggity
                          MVP
                          • May 2003
                          • 1204

                          #13
                          Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                          Originally posted by mrs. carraba
                          whoaa.. the fact that you say "dallas has waaay more talent than the clips" leads me to believe you don't follow the clippers closely.

                          sam cassell: playing in a contract year, and just doing all the right things
                          cuttino mobely: still that saavy scorer who will take big shots
                          corey maggette: before being injured, was having an all star season
                          kaman: can't blame you for sleeping on him, the guy hardly ever gets the spotlight.. but check the double double games.

                          now for the unknown guys who are basically putting the clippers over the edge into a bonafide playoff team.. Q ross and James Singleton.. both are similar to josh howard and daniels in the sense that they are high energy/efficient players who are team first. both play defense first and foremost but can hit shots too.

                          then you have vlad, shaun livingston, rebraca, and daniel ewing. this team is freaking loaded.. and don't think in any way shape or form have a less talented team on paper than the mavs.

                          the mavs have terry, daniels, howard, van horn, damp, devin harris, griffin and stack. please explain how that is more talent than the clippers. terry is similar to mobely, besides that the clippers individual talent is just superior to the mavs.
                          Correct...I havent seen that many Clippers games this season...but all in all...Dallas has had seasons like this b4...they always win alot of games...it is nothin new to them...that is the main reason I dont understand why Dirk is getting so much credit...The Clippers...yea they have added pieces...but still they didn start improving till last year..and Brand has never had a season like he is having...

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                          • Pointguard
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 2977

                            #14
                            Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                            This is the 2nd year that Dirk has played at an MVP type level cdub. Thus the reason he finished 3rd in MVP voting last year and is going to finihs top 2 this year.

                            The years before he was just a good, all-star player, but not a MVP type player.

                            Im sorry you dont understand it. Its quite obvious and its a shame not to see what great play Dirk is giving to the Mavericks this year. I dont see how a fan cant understand it.

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                            • jmood88
                              Sean Payton: Retribution
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34639

                              #15
                              Re: Charles Just Said That Gilbert Arenas Is Better Than AI...

                              What does smh mean?
                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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