WHY are people comparing Lebron to MJ??

[Vince]

Re: WHY are people comparing Lebron to MJ??

***** in the house.

LMAO. He's a ***** for basically saying that in the next 20-30-40 years, we may likely see someone who acheived what MJ did.

LOL

MJ was great, but he's no god. To say that what he did will NEVER be done again is like Jay said, premature...

[mizzta21]

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but think about this you guys, MJ did the things when the celtics were who they were, L.A. had magic on their team(no pun intended), when the bad boys were in town, and almost every team had an hall of famer caliber 2 guard, also when hand checking and knock downs were allowed and most importantly, Jordan did his thing when TRUE Centers exsisted around the league. this is what makes him most amazing, this is what made Jordan win two, three peats, that could have been 8 in a row if he didnt retire. and to the person who posted this thread, people compare because the league is in dire need of a Jordanesque player. ratings are going down, dramatically. rule changes had to be made to make the game more "entertaining." and also the Jordan era fans are getting older too so hearing about star players egos in this generation is annoying. like i heard his Airness said before and ill say again now [Players earn their shoe deals before they even step on the court where as when he was playing they had to earn their shoe deals]. so all you Jordan fans out there, dont worry. Jordan will forever be his Airness. If and when Lebron has his time, lets all hope he EARNS it rather than people hyping him up and the media and REFS give it to him. final thought; Jordan has his own shoe brand, so relax folks...

[Pointguard]

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I agree with others in that LBJ has alot of Magic in him.

He also has alot of MJ in him too, which is why the sky is the limit.


I dont see why people get all crazy when people make the comparison. Its not that they are comparing their games IMO its more that they are comparing their talents and ablility to dominate the game. LBJ is proving why he's such a talent and the comparison is legit.

Everyone always says "So and so hasnt won 6 titles so they cant make the comparison" but then I see people saying that LBJ and MJ's 3rd years arent equal because MJ averaged 37 PPG. So? LBJ is doing more in the POs in his 3rd year than MJ did. And thats what really matters..Right?

Sure LBJ has a long way to go, but its silly to just discount him as much as it is to claim he will be MJ. Lets just "witness" (haha) whats going on right now. if the comparison is made, then argue it if you like just like any other basketball topic, but its dumb to just throw it out the window and say here we go again. LBJ is going too much too do that.

[bjf1377]

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Lebron has never won a scoring title, an mvp, an all star mvp, anything.

And just for the hell of it, he was 2nd in the MVP voting and 3rd in scoring....just sayin

[fsquid]

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Give me Ewing any day of the week.

[Air23]

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LMAO. He's a ***** for basically saying that in the next 20-30-40 years, we may likely see someone who acheived what MJ did.

LOL

MJ was great, but he's no god. To say that what he did will NEVER be done again is like Jay said, premature...

No, he's a ***** for saying he was sick of the Jordan hype (which MJ lived up to and SURPASSED time and again), but he's not tired of the premature Lebron hype?

[Air23]

Re: WHY are people comparing Lebron to MJ??

but think about this you guys, MJ did the things when the celtics were who they were, L.A. had magic on their team(no pun intended), when the bad boys were in town, and almost every team had an hall of famer caliber 2 guard, also when hand checking and knock downs were allowed and most importantly, Jordan did his thing when TRUE Centers exsisted around the league. this is what makes him most amazing, this is what made Jordan win two, three peats, that could have been 8 in a row if he didnt retire. and to the person who posted this thread, people compare because the league is in dire need of a Jordanesque player. ratings are going down, dramatically. rule changes had to be made to make the game more "entertaining." and also the Jordan era fans are getting older too so hearing about star players egos in this generation is annoying. like i heard his Airness said before and ill say again now [Players earn their shoe deals before they even step on the court where as when he was playing they had to earn their shoe deals]. so all you Jordan fans out there, dont worry. Jordan will forever be his Airness. If and when Lebron has his time, lets all hope he EARNS it rather than people hyping him up and the media and REFS give it to him. final thought; Jordan has his own shoe brand, so relax folks...

Could not have said it better myself, mizzta.

[eason2387]

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Give me Ewing any day of the week.

^^Post of the day.^^

If you want to say LeBron is better as a 21 year old, thats hard to argue considering Jordan was in college but to say LeBrons third year is better than Jordan's third year is ridiculous. Jordans third year was the year he averaged 37 pts a game.

Since when is scoring the only part of a basketball game? How many triple doubles did MJ get that year?

Plus, there is one thing which makes Jordan better and that is the fact that his game was COMPLETE. He was a complete player.

And LeBron's game isn't AS COMPLETE AS JORDAN'S at this stage in their careers?
Here's their respective statlines in year 3 (not based on age, because LeBron obviously came out of HS) for those of you who want to look at actual evidence:

MJ - 37.1 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 4.6 APG, 2.88 SPG, 48% FG
LeBron - 31.4, 7.0 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.56 SPG, 48% FG

Who's better at this stage? Debatable... there's no obvious right or wrong, and its ridiculous to say that MJ is so good that you can't possibly make a case for LeBron. That being said, MJ is clearly the G.O.A.T. until somebody proves otherwise through an entire career of work. But keep in mind, there was a time when Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain were undisputedly the greatest players of all time, and no one thought that anyone would come along that was better. Things change... that doesn't diminish MJ's accomplishments, but to hate on LeBron because he may one day be better is stupid. Sit back and enjoy the ride, folks... we are all witnesses.

[TheMatrix31]

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Yep. It's not just about the game itself. There will probably NEVER be another Jordan in that Jordan had a WORLDWIDE impact. Even my grandma knows who Michael Jordan is. I doubt she'd know who the heck LeBron James or Kobe Bryant or (insert possible Jordan comparison) would be in a few years.

[glucklich]

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^^Post of the day.^^



Since when is scoring the only part of a basketball game? How many triple doubles did MJ get that year?



And LeBron's game isn't AS COMPLETE AS JORDAN'S at this stage in their careers?
Here's their respective statlines in year 3 (not based on age, because LeBron obviously came out of HS) for those of you who want to look at actual evidence:

MJ - 37.1 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 4.6 APG, 2.88 SPG, 48% FG
LeBron - 31.4, 7.0 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.56 SPG, 48% FG

Who's better at this stage? Debatable... there's no obvious right or wrong, and its ridiculous to say that MJ is so good that you can't possibly make a case for LeBron. That being said, MJ is clearly the G.O.A.T. until somebody proves otherwise through an entire career of work. But keep in mind, there was a time when Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain were undisputedly the greatest players of all time, and no one thought that anyone would come along that was better. Things change... that doesn't diminish MJ's accomplishments, but to hate on LeBron because he may one day be better is stupid. Sit back and enjoy the ride, folks... we are all witnesses.

Its all about scoring whether thats helping your team do it or preventing the other team from doing it. Since when is it about triple doubles, which is a stupid stat (does it matter if someone gets 30-9-9 and not 20-10-10)?

btw, after 3 years Jordan had 2.6 steals per game and 1.2 blocks per game. LeBron after 3 years has 1.8 and .7 per game.

[SPTO]

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I'm one of those people that thinks it'll take 20-30 years for another Michael Jordan but i've seen some of this Detroit series and i've been thinking about Lebron's achievements this year.

There are some parallels

1. Jordan and Lebron both came to cities that were the dregs of the NBA fraternity. Some of the younger guys here probably don't know or remember that when Jordan went to Chicago it had basically the same kind of rep and popularity that Cleveland had when Lebron was drafted. They're both realistically mid level markets that hadn't had a whole lot of NBA history to them.

2. Lebron and MJ both have games that allows them to interact with their teamates rather then being a ball hog. They both look for the maximum opportunity when they can. I think it was Lebron who passed the game winning basket to Ilgauskus (sp) in game 5 and we all know that Jordan wasn't adverse to giving the ball to his teamates when it was necessary.

3. They both have an appeal that transcends the sport. Lebron didn't quite have that universal appeal before this postseason but he's basically got it now. He will more then likely be the poster boy for the NBA for the rest of his career now. He doesn't have to worry about his NBA contract too much because most of his money will be made in advertising. This is exactly what MJ did for the majority of his career. MJ was never one of the highest paid guys until the tail end of his career.


There's also the potential Lebron has of having a Magic/Bird dynamic in his career against Kobe. So there's something else to bring Lebron into legendary status if he continues to play this well.

Oh and remember Jordan got stymied by the Pistons the first few times in the postseason. Lebron may go to the ECF in his first ever postseason experience. That's something MJ never did.

I'm not saying Lebron is on MJ's level as a player but as an iconic figure and someone who has the ingredients to a great career well Lebron is right up there.

[eason2387]

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Its all about scoring whether thats helping your team do it or preventing the other team from doing it. Since when is it about triple doubles, which is a stupid stat (does it matter if someone gets 30-9-9 and not 20-10-10)?

who's 30-9-9 and who's 20-10-10 in this situation? Over the course of an 82 game season LeBron averaged 2 more rebounds and 2 more assists EVERY SINGLE GAME. The amount of Triple-Doubles is merely indicative of consistently having huge all-around games. Yes, it's about scoring, but assists=points for your teammates, and rebounds=extra possessions for your team. I'm not disputing Jordan's greatness, but look at the stats before you throw out a bunch of crap about how much better Jordan is than LeBron AT THIS STAGE IN HIS CAREER.

btw, after 3 years Jordan had 2.6 steals per game and 1.2 blocks per game. LeBron after 3 years has 1.8 and .7 per game.

btw, if you look at my post, I included steal stats. I wasn't trying to shortchange Jordan's defensive prowess, like you seem to be trying to do to LeBron's offensive ability.

[Cebby]

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Yep. It's not just about the game itself. There will probably NEVER be another Jordan in that Jordan had a WORLDWIDE impact. Even my grandma knows who Michael Jordan is. I doubt she'd know who the heck LeBron James or Kobe Bryant or (insert possible Jordan comparison) would be in a few years.

Probably not because Jordan had some perfect oppurtunities (first dream team being the most obvious), but how do you know, Lebron's only 21.

[Mrcabone]

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Lebron is a great young player but,I honestly feel the league was much tougher back in MJ's era,there will never be another MJ,but Lebron will be great.The only question is will LBJ win championships,even at his skill level there's no guarantee he'll be a champion just because he extremely talented.

[glucklich]

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who's 30-9-9 and who's 20-10-10 in this situation? Over the course of an 82 game season LeBron averaged 2 more rebounds and 2 more assists EVERY SINGLE GAME. The amount of Triple-Doubles is merely indicative of consistently having huge all-around games.

And so if Player X had 30-9-9 in EACH game while Player Y had 20-10-10 every single game, then Player X would have no triple doubles and Player Y would have 82 triple doubles. Its a dumb stat.

Yes, it's about scoring, but assists=points for your teammates, and rebounds=extra possessions for your team.

I'm not disputing Jordan's greatness, but look at the stats before you throw out a bunch of crap about how much better Jordan is than LeBron AT THIS STAGE IN HIS CAREER.

Yeah, assists = points but someone has to finish. If you pass it to a player on the perimeter who hits a 3 coming off of a screen, you get an assist. Perhaps the guy setting the screen should get an assist too? Ultimately, the assist has to take a back seat to the scorer. In Jordans case, he often created his own shot so is an assist the same for someone feeding Jordan as it would be, say, for someone feeding Shaq where everything is packed in? Again, emphasis should be weighted toward the scorer when the scorer creates his own shot. The point of contention should be shooting a lot while still having a high FG%. This is where Kobe has less business being in this discussion. Also, you have to consider that the NBA is different now. Without handchecking, one wonders how many Jordan would have scored.

btw, if you look at my post, I included steal stats. I wasn't trying to shortchange Jordan's defensive prowess, like you seem to be trying to do to LeBron's offensive ability.

Were your stats over three years? They looked mixed. In any case, im a LeBron fan. I like watching him play. Im not shortchanging him anything. I just view his assists differently.