Nets are entertaining the thought of getting K-Mart back...

[EWRMETS]

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I'm sorry but this is a CLASSIC!!

RJ was in the commercials a bit when everyone left him alone with Jason Kidd. The Nets were garbage with RJ being a go to guy. I mean, did they even win 50% of their games?? I don't even recall that happening. If anything, they need to keep Vince over RJ. Heck, they have a few youngsters on the bench that could definitely increase in playing time and possibly have great seasons for the Nets. RJ is the most dispensible out of the three imo. They'll miss a little but you can always find a player of his skill floating around somewhere. Heck, they could get rid of RJ and pick up Sprewell. Anyone thought of that one??

Still, the Nets need a big man that can dominate defend well enough......and stay away from hash and anything else. Will be an interesting off season. I can only hope that KM gets to the Nets while they still have their 4 main pieces.......

At the beginning of the 2004-2005 season, it wasn't Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson because Kidd was hurt. Anyways, what's your point? I never said that the Nets would be better without Carter right now, I said RJ would be better. Some person posted that Vince Carter improves Jefferson's game and that's simply not true.

[EWRMETS]

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Ok, Im sorry, but what did I miss? What did he do?

You claimed that Carter gives RJ more open shots and basically makes him a better player. What evidence do you have of that? RJ's numbers in his third season are pretty close to his numbers this season.

[KENYON06]

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Vince doesn't make anyone better except Nenad. That's pretty much the only one that he involves in the offense when he's not trying to score. Jefferson helps Vince more than Vince helps Jefferson. When Jefferson is on the floor, teams usually will not double team Vince, so he has an easier time.

I'd take Kenyon back on the Nets. He should be almost fully healed by next season, and a lot of people don't seem to know the real situation, so he might suprise people.

[EWRMETS]

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Vince doesn't make anyone better except Nenad. That's pretty much the only one that he involves in the offense when he's not trying to score. Jefferson helps Vince more than Vince helps Jefferson. When Jefferson is on the floor, teams usually will not double team Vince, so he has an easier time.

I'd take Kenyon back on the Nets. He should be almost fully healed by next season, and a lot of people don't seem to know the real situation, so he might suprise people.

Now there's a Nets fan. I like Vince Carter and probably wouldn't trade him to get Kenyon back but for people to say that he made RJ is pretty ridiculous. Good call on Vince helping Nenad, but I think he helped him out a lot more last season. This season, Nenad did a lot more to create his own shot.

[oo7Soxs]

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Getting back K-Mart is exactly what the Nets need. Now thier big men will be the softest out of all the Eastern Conference contenders.

Kenyon Martin 6.3 rebounds, .8 steals, and .9 blocks
Nenad Kristic 6.4 rebounds, .4 steals, and .8 blocks

Also, there are serious character issues that come into play here. The Nets shouldn't go after K-Mart if they really want to contend in the East.

[jfsolo]

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Nets w/o VC + KG = Lottery bound.

I could understand if you said that that wouldn't be enough to get them out of the east, or even that they would be a worse team(I wouldn't agree), but to say that Kidd, KG, Jefferson, Kristic couldn't even make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference is mindboggling.

You are basically saying that this team wouldn't win 40 games. You aren't saying it, but one could infer that you don't think too highly of KG's game.

[Pointguard]

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Kenyon back to NJ makes no sense. They dont have the contracts to get him unless VC/RJ/Kidd are on the way out and KMart is not worth it.

KG would make sense but I dont think MIN wants VC. Whats the point in making that move? Does VC make MIN any better? Probably not. And VC isnt getting any younger.

Golden State would give a MUCH better package, something along the lines of Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy and the #9 pick.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Kenyon back to NJ makes no sense. They dont have the contracts to get him unless VC/RJ/Kidd are on the way out and KMart is not worth it.

KG would make sense but I dont think MIN wants VC. Whats the point in making that move? Does VC make MIN any better? Probably not. And VC isnt getting any younger.

Golden State would give a MUCH better package, something along the lines of Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy and the #9 pick.

when you talk about GS, do you mean a better package for kmart or carter? the nuggs definitely wouldn't need either j rich nor murphy. the nuggets despartely need outside shooting.

[Pointguard]

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That GS package for KG obviously.

KMart has no value. Denver will be lucky to get something like Jalen Rose's expiring contract or something along those lines. No way they get a talent like J-Rich along with a draft pick.

[ex carrabba fan]

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That GS package for KG obviously.

KMart has no value. Denver will be lucky to get something like Jalen Rose's expiring contract or something along those lines. No way they get a talent like J-Rich along with a draft pick.

when teams are ready to part with their franchise player, i really believe they should trade the player for only expiring contracts or let them walk as a FA. teams will never get equal value and will probably end up with some talent, but overall won't be in a great position to move on and forward in a new direction.

[Vince]

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Kenyon back to NJ makes no sense. They dont have the contracts to get him unless VC/RJ/Kidd are on the way out and KMart is not worth it.

KG would make sense but I dont think MIN wants VC. Whats the point in making that move? Does VC make MIN any better? Probably not. And VC isnt getting any younger.

Golden State would give a MUCH better package, something along the lines of Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy and the #9 pick.

VC and Nenad would be what Minny would ask for, I think.

[Pointguard]

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If I was MIN, I wouldnt do it Vince. They can get better.

when teams are ready to part with their franchise player, i really believe they should trade the player for only expiring contracts or let them walk as a FA. teams will never get equal value and will probably end up with some talent, but overall won't be in a great position to move on and forward in a new direction.

Yea, I kinda agree. I think though it varies. For Minnesota and KG, I'd send him to NY if I was gonna trade him. Id get rid of all the bad contracts, Troy Hudson, Mark Blount, and prob. Marko Jaric and look to get back Jalen Rose and Mo Taylor's expiring contracts. Then Id want Channign Frye and some draft picks.

Though, now that I think of it, I think that Chicago could give a hell of an offer. They already have 15+ million in cap space, and they'd probably give the #1 pick and some fillers like Harrington. You dont get rid of any bad contracts, but you get instant cap space and Lamarcus Aldridge to build around.

I dunno. There are many options to go. BUT the first thing is actually deciding if you should trade KG. Tough call. Id do it unless I can get someone like Allen Iverson to compliment KG. Otherwise, its time to rebuild.

[elprez98]

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Though, now that I think of it, I think that Chicago could give a hell of an offer. They already have 15+ million in cap space, and they'd probably give the #1 pick and some fillers like Harrington. You dont get rid of any bad contracts, but you get instant cap space and Lamarcus Aldridge to build around.

Don't get me excited man.

[Vince]

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If I was MIN, I wouldnt do it Vince. They can get better.

Really? You think so?

I guess if they want youth, picks and expirings, they can go see the Bulls.

[Pointguard]

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I dunno. I just dont think much of Nenad so I guess thats what does it for me. Good little player, but Im not sure you win with a jump-shooting C thats not a very good rebounder, defender, nor defends the rim well.

Solid player, but nothing special IMO. But if MIN felt different about him, maybe.