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  • Flyboy
    Daydream Believer
    • Jun 2003
    • 11352

    #46
    Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

    Originally posted by KDRE
    The Rockets Tmac is the one who shut Dirk down, and also mowed over his team.
    Originally posted by EWRMETS
    Maybe the best post in OS's history. If you don't think Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer, you support al Qaeda.

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    • Playmakers
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      • Sep 2004
      • 15413

      #47
      Scoop Jackson uuuugh not about Dirk

      By Scoop Jackson
      Page 2


      MIAMI -- What, in the end, made them mad?

      Was it the timeout call by Joe DeRosa that took away the Mavs' chance to win the game? Was it the unavailability of Jerry Stackhouse due to an unjustified suspension? Was it the fact that Dwyane Wade by himself had the same amount of free-throw attempts as their entire team? Was it the disrespect that they've felt since they set foot inside Miami?

      What made Avery Johnson snap in the game (one tech called in the third quarter, one extreme expression of dissatisfaction at the end)? What made him come to the podium after the game for the first time without changing clothes (his charter flight was leaving for Dallas immediately after the media session) and sit behind the microphone and do the "black man leg tap" that has stopped many a brotha over the years from going overboard? What made him say in the most condescending, facetious voice, "You think the free throws lost us the game?" to a reporter when asked if he thought missed free throws cost Dallas the game?




      Avery Johnson was just a little ticked off.



      What made Jason Terry and Devin Harris use the term "controlled anger" when describing how Johnson spoke about how they have to win Game 6 after losing Game 5 like this?

      What made Josh Howard and Adrian Griffin politely short-answer every question asked them while trying to get dressed and get out of Miami?

      What made Dirk Nowitzki kick the game ball into the 300 level of the AmericanAirlines Arena after the game, then kick the watercooler and everything else on his way to the locker room after that?

      What made Mark Cuban almost have to be escorted from the court by security?

      What made them act this way? What (finally) pushed them to this point?

      At what point did (will) the anger consume them?

      Anger is a funny thing. But at this point, if you are the Dallas Mavericks, it damn sure doesn't make you laugh.

      And most won't laugh. Most will say the Mavs need this anger to get back to where they were three games ago.

      But did it have to happen like this?

      With incident after incident going against them, this middle passage of the Finals felt like a conspiracy.

      I mean, how mad is a team supposed to not get when they've had Stackhouse, who had come off the bench and outscored Miami's entire bench during the first four games of the series, get suspended on a foul that Shaq admitted wasn't as hard as his daughters hit him when they jump to hug him when he comes home? And then you lose the battle from the bench 23-12 and your team loses in overtime by one?

      I mean, although the Mavs have to be upset about the missed free throws by Howard that would have given them a three-point lead with 54 seconds left, the more disturbing reality is that David Stern may have used the opportunity to suspend Stackhouse as a personal vendetta power move against Cuban because of their "indifferent" relationship. And that Stackhouse not playing is ultimately why the Mavericks are one loss away from not getting an NBA championship trophy instead of one win away from clinching one.

      And then factor in that Wade and the Mavs both went 21 of 25 from the free-throw line, followed by "the Chris Webber" that the refs knew no coach in the history of the League would call, forcing the Mavs to waste their final timeout.

      I mean, if that doesn't produce 12 angry men, what does?

      And after the game it had gone from their faces and words into their hearts.

      "We were already mad after Game 4," Dirk said after Game 5. "They suspended one of our players … " he echoed, then used the word "frustration." Then he said what a leader who has had his leadership questioned is supposed to say: "We'll take that attitude with us back home."

      "Are we angry right now?" Terry responded to the obvious. "There's no question about it. If you feel any other way, you shouldn't be in a Mavericks' uniform."

      Which sums up the state they are in. A place where they have to be able to play "us against the world" basketball with the pressure of not losing a game while not losing that anger.

      It's the only way they have to win, to play two angry games. Leave Miami with that emotion on lock until the opening tip of Game 6, then slowly release it until the final buzzer of Game 6. When Stackhouse can be the angriest of them all -- and execute through anger the way Terry did against the Spurs, after his anger got him suspended for a game and almost cost the Mavs the series.

      But that's a tough thing to do in this situation, at this stage. Because unlike before, the Mavericks knew where the source of their anger was, they knew that "part of it" was of their own infliction. But now, where do they start?

      Who do they blame?

      And, more importantly, how do they control the anger when pressure is the stronger entity and will play a larger role in whether they get the "W" or take a final "L"?

      As mad as they wanna be, the next game the Mavs play is their elimination game -- not the Heat's. And although closeout games are said to be the hardest, being down 3-2 has to put pressure on the Mavs to play within themselves and within the structure that got them those two wins in the first place.

      When they weren't angry.

      When they had everything in control. When they were winning games against Miami by 10 and 14, when the crowd in the American Airlines Center in Dallas was rowdy, loud and proud, but not "hostile" -- as Pat Riley and Shaquille said they expect upon their return. When being in the Finals was new to the Mavs, fun, before they realized that the Operation BC against their owner was maybe truth. That maybe them not winning is bigger than them.

      Which is why Avery Johnson has to be careful how he approaches his team about executing the upside of this anger. He can't afford to turn his team's anger into madness when his mission should be turning his anger into management.
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      • SteelersFreak
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        • May 2004
        • 9582

        #48
        Re: Scoop Jackson uuuugh not about Dirk

        Good article. But everyone just needs to stop talking about the refs, it's over and done with, we can talk about conspiracy theories all we want but it's really not going to get us much of anywhere.

        Now, it's a very good thing that Dallas is angry, they need a lot of fire now, especially Dirk and Stack. Howard and JET have been getting the job done, but now we need to see Dirk and Stack step their games up to the high level we have seen them play at throughout the entire playoffs.
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          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #49
          Re: Scoop Jackson uuuugh not about Dirk

          gonna move this into the other scoop thread

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          • Pappy Knuckles
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            • Sep 2004
            • 15966

            #50
            Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

            SteelersFreak hasn't said anything banworthy in here. Don't be quick on the trigger.

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            • Slymm
              Th* m*n...
              • Nov 2002
              • 3406

              #51
              Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

              Pretty much agree with the article. Its put up or shut up time. No need to talk about being angry, gotta channel it and play some fired up ball.
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                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #52
                Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                Originally posted by Buddy Knox
                SteelersFreak hasn't said anything banworthy in here. Don't be quick on the trigger.

                Hate posts and personal attacks will not be tolerated on the Operation Sports boards. Treat others on these message boards as you would expect them to treat you. Talking trash about another user is a quick way to earn a banning, as is posting topics specifically to provoke a negative response (aka trolling).
                AS you can see, he could be gone from here right now.

                I suggest you allow us mods to handle these matters because your opinion is not the TOS he agreed to when he signed up here

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                • Gilateen
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 2855

                  #53
                  Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                  Originally posted by KDRE
                  AS you can see, he could be gone from here right now.

                  I suggest you allow us mods to handle these matters because your opinion is not the TOS he agreed to when he signed up here
                  Damn.

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                  • HMcCoy
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8212

                    #54
                    Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                    Last week..Wade is overrated, Dirk is God.

                    This week...Dirk is overrated, Wade is God.

                    Gotta love the media.


                    Anyway, Dirk has definately shown what he can do when he's pissed...he needs to get pissed. He's been a bit too passive, but a handful of games is way too early to reinstate the "soft" tag, IMO. Dirk stepped up and took and made some big shots, and while they lost, he didn't disappear ala KG. He still demands his touches down the stretch, but how can you go AWAY from 2 guys with the hot hand? Terry was ballin' and looking for his own shot first, and he's been doing that since game one. Jason Williams has been his beeeotch. Can't put that on the German.

                    Dirk has been throwing shoulders around more frequently, but he's still not a super-bulky guy...we can't expect him too suddenly start shrugging off guys like he's Shaq, just because he's started to play a bit tougher. Besides game 4, his production has been enough to win. Like somone said, if a couple shots go either way, this thread, and scoops artical go bye-bye. Fellow MVP candidate Chauncey B didn't really show up in CLE or MIA, and no ones calling him soft. Lets' be fair.

                    I knew Wade at 100% would be a difference-maker, but the reffing has been horrendous. (Gotta love that Wade pushoff on the last play...definitely should have been an offensive foul) If the Mavs can get some home cookin', and play with some conviction, they should still take this series.
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                    • Pointguard
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 2977

                      #55
                      Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                      ^I actually dont mind that. If Wade plays out of his mind, he deserves the pub, as does Dirk and so on.. If Dirk plays like sh!t, he deserves that pub as well. It is probably over-looked for good and bad both, but thats what happens in life in general IMO. Overexcited and depressed..


                      Dont get me wrong, Dirk has played like crap but I am curious to know if neutral fans see the same thing I see. I am not making excuses for Dirk and Dallas defense towards Wade, but here it goes...

                      Does anyone think that the refs allow Haslem/Posey to get away with alot more contact on Dirk than Harris/Griff/Howard do against Wade? If so, why is that? Dirk not being agressive and being passive? Wade doing the opposite?

                      Again, it seems like there is a lot more bodying and pushing allowed against Dirk than against Wade to me, but Im not sure if everyone else sees the same thing....

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                      • Playmakers
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 15413

                        #56
                        Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                        Originally posted by Pointguard
                        ^I actually dont mind that. If Wade plays out of his mind, he deserves the pub, as does Dirk and so on.. If Dirk plays like sh!t, he deserves that pub as well. It is probably over-looked for good and bad both, but thats what happens in life in general IMO. Overexcited and depressed..


                        Dont get me wrong, Dirk has played like crap but I am curious to know if neutral fans see the same thing I see. I am not making excuses for Dirk and Dallas defense towards Wade, but here it goes...

                        Does anyone think that the refs allow Haslem/Posey to get away with alot more contact on Dirk than Harris/Griff/Howard do against Wade? If so, why is that? Dirk not being agressive and being passive? Wade doing the opposite?

                        Again, it seems like there is a lot more bodying and pushing allowed against Dirk than against Wade to me, but Im not sure if everyone else sees the same thing....
                        It's not a secret that is what has happened sincce they left Dallas. The slightest of contact will result in Wade getting a FT and for Dirk who has taken much more punishment in terms of bumping and holding hasn't got the same protection.

                        I'm sure the roles will reverse in Dallas and then Heat fans who told all the Mavs fans to quit crying and complaining will see the shoe on theother foot and I believe at that time they will unleash their anger and frustration.

                        I'm also curious to see how manu non-Heat fans that told Mavs fans to get over it will keep their mouth shut and not complain when they see Dirk shooting 20+ FT's in Dallas. I'm wondering if guy's will say Dirk is flopping and they are sending him to the line despite what defense the Heat play.

                        That's what is going to be intersting to see how this forum reacts when Wade doesn't get the same calls he got in Miami if Heat fans and fans that are rooting for Miami react at that time.
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                        • SteelersFreak
                          All Star
                          • May 2004
                          • 9582

                          #57
                          Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                          It's not a secret that is what has happened sincce they left Dallas. The slightest of contact will result in Wade getting a FT and for Dirk who has taken much more punishment in terms of bumping and holding hasn't got the same protection.

                          I'm sure the roles will reverse in Dallas and then Heat fans who told all the Mavs fans to quit crying and complaining will see the shoe on theother foot and I believe at that time they will unleash their anger and frustration.

                          I'm also curious to see how manu non-Heat fans that told Mavs fans to get over it will keep their mouth shut and not complain when they see Dirk shooting 20+ FT's in Dallas. I'm wondering if guy's will say Dirk is flopping and they are sending him to the line despite what defense the Heat play.

                          That's what is going to be intersting to see how this forum reacts when Wade doesn't get the same calls he got in Miami if Heat fans and fans that are rooting for Miami react at that time.
                          I agree, all the Heat fans tell us to shut up and get over it. We'll all see how you guys react when the refs call BS calls on the Heat.
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                          • Slymm
                            Th* m*n...
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3406

                            #58
                            Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                            Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                            I agree, all the Heat fans tell us to shut up and get over it. We'll all see how you guys react when the refs call BS calls on the Heat.
                            I'm not a Heat fan so I'm not gonna care. Hell, I even said that Stack shouldn't be suspended, so I guess you can't say we're all one sided and bias just because we all agree on a couple things you don't.
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                            • Streets
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 5787

                              #59
                              Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                              Originally posted by HMcCoy
                              Anyway, Dirk has definately shown what he can do when he's pissed...he needs to get pissed.
                              C'mon HMcCoy,

                              It shouldn't even be a question as to whether or not he's gonna play well. We all know he's pissed. All of america saw him choke the sh*t out of an exercise bike for god's sake.

                              Dirk as Dave Chappelle as Rick James: F*CK YO BIKE, MIAMI! F*CK YO BIKE!!

                              Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                              I agree, all the Heat fans tell us to shut up and get over it. We'll all see how you guys react when the refs call BS calls on the Heat.
                              No what will be more interesting is to see where all the protests, conspiricy theories, and cries of outrage go when Dirk gets his 20+ freethrows. No one batted an eyelash in that San Antonio game and I'm sure noone will say anything tonight or in game 7. See, the league is only rigged and corrupt when it doesn't benefit Dallas. SMH

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                              • Playmakers
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 15413

                                #60
                                Re: Scoop Jackson on Dirk

                                Originally posted by Streets
                                C'mon HMcCoy,

                                It shouldn't even be a question as to whether or not he's gonna play well. We all know he's pissed. All of america saw him choke the sh*t out of an exercise bike for god's sake.

                                Dirk as Dave Chappelle as Rick James: F*CK YO BIKE, MIAMI! F*CK YO BIKE!!



                                No what will be more interesting is to see where all the protests, conspiricy theories, and cries of outrage go when Dirk gets his 20+ freethrows. No one batted an eyelash in that San Antonio game and I'm sure noone will say anything tonight or in game 7. See, the league is only rigged and corrupt when it doesn't benefit Dallas. SMH

                                That's weired since Jeff Van Gundy made these claims last year and he's the coch of your Rockets.

                                Do you Rockets fans actually think Mavs fans take them serious with comments like only Dallas thinks the league is corrupt when they lose.......especially sinc eit was Van Gundy your coach who claimed he had inside sources about a scandal his team was getting from the league.....
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