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  • Padgoi

    #1

    Is Basketball Fixed?

    The question of the decade: Are pro sports fixed? Everyone thinks boxing is fixed but is basketball fixed? I mean, can a professional basketball team actually take a 20 point lead and end up losing? And why is it that whenever a team has a lead above 15 points, the other team ALWAYS makes a run? And why is it that home-court advantage has the biggest impact in basketball? In all 3 other major sports, home-court advantage doesn't necessarily mean the home team will win, but in basketball, most teams have higher winning percentages at home and some are ludicrous. The Nets are like 14-2 at home but they are under .500 on the road. Isn't that ridiculous? Is basketball really fixed? How about when Michael Jordan took his first retirement. Coincidentally, it happened at the same time he had those gambling problems. Was he actually suspended? Let's get some input on what is going on in basketball. Personally, I do think it is fixed. I just have this notion that Stern tells the referees to call games certain ways in order to make it more exciting or competitve. What does everyone else think?
  • mvb34
    S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
    • Jul 2002
    • 8138

    #2
    Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

    The answer would be NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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    • Padgoi

      #3
      Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

      You seem so sure of yourself. But think of the big picture. Why is it that every team who gets down by a certain margin ALWAYS goes on a run? And what about the Jordan thing I mentioned? Instead of just going alone with what you hear on TV, maybe you should think logically. Sometimes things are not what they seem.

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      • MaddenMan
        Tebow is Chuck Norris
        • Jul 2002
        • 5632

        #4
        Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

        I think the NBA is fixed, if you don't you have some serious reality issues. Everyone knows the NBA implements a "STAR SYSTEM", all that basically means is that the game is fixed for the so-called "STARS". If the stars got called for travelling each time they did the NBA would imitate College Ball more and people don't want to see that.

        Do you remember when the refs were replaced? The league was much closer and the stars of the NBA were pissed off because they were actually getting beat because they can't play within the real rules.

        I've been trying to watch the NBA more this year, but every game I see I see the "STAR SYSTEM' and I go back to football.

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        • KingsFan
          Rookie
          • Jan 2003
          • 149

          #5
          Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

          Basketball fixed?

          No, it can't be. But I really do believe some NBA officials fix games on purpose. Either because their pressured too, or they dislike the team or organization for certain reasons. Right now I think there are only a handful of ref's who are honest no matter what game they are officiating. Fire the rest! They are horrible and ruin basketball for everyone!

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          • Court_vision
            Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 8290

            #6
            Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

            quote "The Nets are like 14-2 at home but they are under .500 on the road. Isn't that ridiculous? "

            Ummmmm...I don't suppose that getting on a plane, flying 10 hours, arriving at a stadium full of people screaming for the other team, staying in a hotel without your family, playing on different courts and time zones etc etc...would have anything to do with it?

            It's called home court advantage...

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            • jball
              Rookie
              • Jan 2003
              • 40

              #7
              Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

              Well, I do agree that the "stars" get away with a little they shouldn't; but on the flip side there are times they are called for things other guys in the leauge arn't. It's kind of a two way street, you'll get your way through most of the game, but there will allways be a time or two where the refs are paying more attention to you because you are that "star".

              But as for there being a huge point fixing conspirecy? Ha. No.

              If you've ever played basketball then you know it's the nature of the game. Just because you hit jumpers in the first half don't mean they'll fall in the second. Nobody has a perfect shooting record. And unlike Football where you have 4 chances to get a down, or in Baseball where you get 3 outs, in Basketball if you miss a shot the other team can get the rebound and score.

              Oh and I forgot to add, home court advantage has more effect in Basketball because the fans are closer. In Football and Baseball the fans are much farther from the teams, and in most cases the stadiums are bigger and open, meaning less noise. And home court advantage only works if there are people there to support the team, if you go somewhere like Denver, it has much less of an effect.

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              • AI_Franchise03
                MVP
                • Dec 2002
                • 2168

                #8
                Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                I think the NBA is fixed, if you don't you have some serious reality issues.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Whenver you make your point, if nobody agrees with you, you say they have serious issues . If you think NBA is fixed, you have major issues..
                NBA is not fixed!
                " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                The World Is At Your Feet.

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                • bigj1601
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 308

                  #9
                  Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                  Teams make runs because honestly the other team isnt trying as hard. When your up by 20 you arent going to dive for the loose ball like you would when its tied. unlike in the other sports you can score ten points very quick.

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                  • Padgoi

                    #10
                    Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                    I personally feel that too many people simply just agree with what they hear on TV because they cannot accept the fact that a professional sport just might be fixed. I just think it is ridiculous that in almost every game I watch, when a team goes down by 15+ points, they magically go on a run every time to make the game exciting. And yes, the stars definitely get advantageous calls. There is a reason why the stars rarely foul out of games. And please comment on the Jordan thing I mentioned. Was he really suspended for gambling or did he actually coincidentally retire at the same time of the alleged gambling incident. Personally, I feel he was suspended and the NBA did not want the greatest NBA player to have his reputation tarnished so they "made" him retire to hide it. And I still think basketball is fixed. Good points have been made but I do think the referees may call a game a certain way to give the home-team an advantage.

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                    • Will
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 717

                      #11
                      Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                      Just drop it. Sports are not fixed. There may be instances in which tampering was done with a game, but sports in general are one of the few pure things our society has to hold onto.

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                      • Padgoi

                        #12
                        Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                        Will, I don't mean to disrespect you but what you said is exactly what they want the public to think. They just want you to say, "drop it, sports aren't fixed." But, in reality, you are simply denying the truth that sports may indeed be fixed and you do not want to accept it. You simply want to think that sports are pure because you couldn't imagine something that should be pure possibly being crooked. Have an open mind about the topic and try to just analyze the situation for a second and you may see that there have been "coincidental" instances where sports may have not been as pure as you conceive it to be.

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                        • KingsFan
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 149

                          #13
                          Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                          The greatest sport of all cannot be fixed, PERIOD! Millions of Sacramento Kings fans (including myself) had to suffer through the horrible officiating of last seasons WCF's. But even if the series was slightly fixed on a certain team winning, the best team still lost with a chance to win on their own. Now c'mon, I'm a Kings fan, basketball is not fixed, its just some officials have different views of what a call is and isn't. Just get rid of some of the idiotic officials and things will be great!

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                          • mvb34
                            S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8138

                            #14
                            Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                            I just think it is ridiculous that in almost every game I watch, when a team goes down by 15+ points, they magically go on a run every time to make the game exciting.

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                            Have you every played a pickup game when one team jumps out to a lead and other then team comes back? I guess pickup games are fixed!! Basketball is a game of runs especially pro basketball!!
                            http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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                            • CM1847
                              Bacon
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5372

                              #15
                              Re: Is Basketball Fixed?

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                              I mean, can a professional basketball team actually take a 20 point lead and end up losing? And why is it that whenever a team has a lead above 15 points, the other team ALWAYS makes a run?

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                              If a team gets up by a certain margin, they are bound to let up a little. Whether it be because backups are playing instead of starters or just because the starters don't have the same intensity being up by a big margin.
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                              And why is it that home-court advantage has the biggest impact in basketball? In all 3 other major sports, home-court advantage doesn't necessarily mean the home team will win, but in basketball, most teams have higher winning percentages at home and some are ludicrous. The Nets are like 14-2 at home but they are under .500 on the road. Isn't that ridiculous?

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                              It starts out as being just the difference in the crowd, having people behind you helps a lot. After a point I think it may become a mental thing.
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                              How about when Michael Jordan took his first retirement. Coincidentally, it happened at the same time he had those gambling problems. Was he actually suspended?

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                              A two and a half year suspension(maybe longer, I forget how long he played baseball) for gambling? Seriously.....this is getting ridiculous.....
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
                              I just have this notion that Stern tells the referees to call games certain ways in order to make it more exciting or competitve. What does everyone else think?

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                              THen it didn't work, the Kings didn't make any of their free throws that would have beat the Lakers. If more calls are made for the losing team, it's probably because they are more aggressive and taking it to the hole, while the winning team is more content with settling for jumpers.

                              Above all, if basketball was fixed(through the refs as you say), someone would have talked about it by now. Something that big couldn't go so long without someone involved telling the truth......interesting post, but a little bit of a stretch to actually believe.

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