What a performance by Andre Bynum tonight.....

[Pointguard]

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The only players that are of any value are Luke, Cook, Lamar, and Andrew.

Umm, Mihm and Brown both have value. Their contracts are solid/good and they are big men. I guarentee many teams could use backup bigmen like these two.

Honestly, look to dump Brown. He's an expiring contract is a team wants him to be(his third and final year is a team option) and I think Mihm coompliments Bynum much more.

As far as Bynum being ready, he's already shown me he's better than half the backup centers in the league and thats being negative. New York starts Eddy freakin Curry and Id take Andrew Bynum over him easily. Curry can score, but he cant handle double team and cant rebound or play defense. Bynum not only can score too, but he sess double teams and can make the pass. His rebounding is solid, espically offesnively, and his defense is average. Make Turiaf the 3rd stringer, Mihm/Bynum rotate at center and trade Bornw for a backup PG who can shoot.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Umm, Mihm and Brown both have value. Their contracts are solid/good and they are big men. I guarentee many teams could use backup bigmen like these two.

Honestly, look to dump Brown. He's an expiring contract is a team wants him to be(his third and final year is a team option) and I think Mihm coompliments Bynum much more.

As far as Bynum being ready, he's already shown me he's better than half the backup centers in the league and thats being negative. New York starts Eddy freakin Curry and Id take Andrew Bynum over him easily. Curry can score, but he cant handle double team and cant rebound or play defense. Bynum not only can score too, but he sess double teams and can make the pass. His rebounding is solid, espically offesnively, and his defense is average. Make Turiaf the 3rd stringer, Mihm/Bynum rotate at center and trade Bornw for a backup PG who can shoot.

Mihm's 4 million? Trade him away for what? Brown isn't expiring until next year. How can you claim Mihm would compliment Bynum much more when they've never played together?

If I'm Kupcheck, I hold on to everybody, because once 24 comes back, they could hit another gear they haven't seen for awhile. Turiaf is a great burst off the bench, but he is EXTREMELY limited. I would also hold on to all three big men (Brown, Mihm, Bynum) because bigs are a rairity today, and all three seem to bring something to the Lakers.

[driddy]

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Exactly. Not only was this one game at the start of the season, but the Suns certainly don't have any dominant post defensive players. And they aren't that big inside either.

Well, I said consistency is the measuring stick, as my comments were tailored to that. Obviously you dont jump to any conclusions based on one game, but if he continues this, then Mihm or Brown should be gone.

The Laker players always get rated higher even though their stats aren't up to snuff. The Mavs were pretty happy to get Devean George, who doesn't offer alot, but shows flashes. Cook has value, Smush has value, Brown has value, Odom has a ton of value, Walton has value, as does Mihm.

the suns were at full strength last night. Amare is a beast, and Kurt Thomas is respectable.

[ex carrabba fan]

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the suns were at full strength last night. Amare is a beast, and Kurt Thomas is respectable.

Diaw was outsized, Amare played 11 minutes and is not healthy, I wish they would've stuck Thomas on Bynum every time down. Because that would've been a much better matchup.

You can't depend on someone that young to contribute at a high level over a long amount of time. It's not fair to Andrew, and I'm sure the Lakers will be in the running for the playoffs and possibly more very soon. It wouldn't be fair to ask Bynum to play like he did last night in the playoffs this year or even next. You need to keep the two veteran bigs and let Bynum work his way in slowly for the next couple of seasons at least. Even if Andrew has a great season, it would not make much sense imo to release Mihm based off Andrew's season. Turiaf is great, but during the playoffs he isn't going to be the guy you want logging long minutes.

[thenbagamer]

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Bynum = Beast

[driddy]

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That's crazy talk, he's a professional, if he shows that he can stay consistent you play him. His psyche is irrelevant. I'm sure he wants to play, and I'm sure the coaching staff wants him to be ready now rather than a few seasons from now. Kobe has already played over 100 playoff games, the Lakers need Bynum to play as soon as he can show he's ready. They cant afford to let him sit on the bench for a few seasons if he can contribute now while Kobe is in his prime. If Bynum is inconsistent than you move him back to third string as you would anyone else. For now, he's our guy, and based on one game he should be in the main rotation. Until he shows otherwise, he plays as much as he can.

[ex carrabba fan]

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That's crazy talk, he's a professional, if he shows that he can stay consistent you play him. His psyche is irrelevant. I'm sure he wants to play, and I'm sure the coaching staff wants him to be ready now rather than a few seasons from now. Kobe has already played over 100 playoff games, the Lakers need Bynum to play as soon as he can show he's ready. They cant afford to let him sit on the bench for a few seasons if he can contribute now while Kobe is in his prime. If Bynum is inconsistent than you move him back to third string as you would anyone else. For now, he's our guy, and based on one game he should be in the main rotation. Until he shows otherwise, he plays as much as he can.

He's barely 19. I don't care if he got drafted high, you don't automatically become a "professional" all of a sudden. It takes a couple seasons to get acclamated to the rigors of an entire season, as well as the postseason. Look at tonight's game, he's going to have plenty of games like this where he gets himself into early foul trouble and is a non factor (only five points). It would be much more comforting to know that either Mihm or Brown is around should Andrew be forced to sit with foul trouble.

It's not like I'm saying, "keep his *** on the bench and play him limited minutes", I just think for a couple more years, keep Mihm and Brown around for insurance. Play him about 25-30 minutes per game until he can prove to be a legit backup or even starter. It's not logical to uncessarily thrust him into the fire, potentially burning him out.

[Pointguard]

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Mihm's 4 million? Trade him away for what? Brown isn't expiring until next year. How can you claim Mihm would compliment Bynum much more when they've never played together?

I could come up with many trades that Mihm or Brown could net LA and benefit them.

Kwame Brown has a team option (like I already said) which can make him a expiring contract this season. If he was traded to a team looking for cap space, they can use make Brown a FA next offseason. This was put in as part of the 2007 offseaosn plan Kupcake was going for last year (still may be).

I say compliment as in they both play C so it gives defense different looks. Mihm is more of a shot blocker on defense and can spread the defense with the 15 foot jumper. Brown is more of a big body who's only benefit is man2man post defense. I dont plan on Bynum to be playing alongside either player very much, espically if one is traded

[ex carrabba fan]

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I could come up with many trades that Mihm or Brown could net LA and benefit them.

Kwame Brown has a team option (like I already said) which can make him a expiring contract this season. If he was traded to a team looking for cap space, they can use make Brown a FA next offseason. This was put in as part of the 2007 offseaosn plan Kupcake was going for last year (still may be).

I say compliment as in they both play C so it gives defense different looks. Mihm is more of a shot blocker on defense and can spread the defense with the 15 foot jumper. Brown is more of a big body who's only benefit is man2man post defense. I dont plan on Bynum to be playing alongside either player very much, espically if one is traded

Ehh. You could come up with many trades eh? Ok. Well since there's no way to actually prove whom could be traded for whom I'll leave that point alone. Basically the Lakers probably won't get back more value by trading away either Brown or Mihm, so I would be very weary of attempting to get rid of one of them.

My point is why put all the pressure on Andrew, by trading away one of the two bigs, when by keeping all three of them, Andrew can be eased into the spotlight.

[driddy]

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Because he wont get any playing time behind two centers. Come on man, how is he going to get 25 to 30 minutes a game as the third string center? What team plays the third string center that many minutes without any foul trouble issues? Throw in Turiaf, who also needs minutes and you have a logjam at the 4/5 positions.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Because he wont get any playing time behind two centers. Come on man, how is he going to get 25 to 30 minutes a game as the third string center? What team plays the third string center that many minutes without any foul trouble issues? Throw in Turiaf, who also needs minutes and you have a logjam at the 4/5 positions.

Well we'll see if the Lakers will attempt to resign Chris after the season, I don't know that I can pencil in Andrew as the #2 center after one good game.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Wow, what a great game tonight against the Wolves for Andrew. Granted this was the second of a back to back for Minnesota, Bynum looks like he'll turn out at least above average.. which for a seven footer, triples his value. He has patience, footwork, and is pretty agile. I am thouroughly impressed with his performence early into this season. And he hits free throws (8-10)! I love how he doesn't just lay the ball in, but tries to dunk it if at all possible.

His line: 20, 14, and 3 blocks with several more shots he changed with his presence. Once we get Kwame back things will really start to look up, because I truly believe Brown is going to have a big impact in a positive way.

I am starting to see the probability of Chris Mihm getting cut increasing with each minute Andrew gets.

[TheMatrix31]

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I came UP with Andrew in my fantasy draft last night. I took him in like the 15th out of 17 rounds, and he was all the way at the bottom of the player list.

That's an insane line for a guy his age.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I believe he was a free agent in my fantasy league! I am pissed I didn't sign him now.

I can't believe he's actually providing this much of a contribution this early. I sincerely hope he sticks it to all the folks who have poked fun at the Lakers picking him so high.

By the way, Bynum had no fouls and no turnovers tonight. I am starting to buy into the hype. The kid has so much composure, it's truly impressive.

[BTB]

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I cant believe I didnt pick him up off waivers... ugh