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  • BTB
    Th*s **n't s** w*rld
    • Mar 2003
    • 3520

    #31
    Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

    These wins just hurt us in the long run - just hurting our chances to get Oden or get Doc out of here.


    Doc needs to be fired ASAP if this team wants to go anywhere.

    The dynasty will return


    Paul Pierce... talent + heart + toughness = The Truth

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #32
      Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

      Wow Doc is a hated man on this board.

      Lakers looking extremely flat, struggling against the young Blazers. Down 8 late in the 4th. Andrew is looking like a rookie, 2 points in 18 minutes.

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      • BTB
        Th*s **n't s** w*rld
        • Mar 2003
        • 3520

        #33
        Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        Wow Doc is a hated man on this board.

        Lakers looking extremely flat, struggling against the young Blazers. Down 8 late in the 4th. Andrew is looking like a rookie, 2 points in 18 minutes.
        Doc is a hated man by basketball fans. He is butchering our team by playing everyone completely against their strengths.

        Let me explain


        Pierce is best utilized by getting the ball 15 feet from the hoop on 1 dribble drives or coming off screens going to the hoop. The way Doc uses him is that he gives him the ball 24 feet from the hoop and has him slowly make his way around picks and trudging through the D. Either that or post up and fight through double teams.

        Perkins and Jefferson are low post players who can dominate the boards when they get in rhythm, yet Doc has them playing high post, and catching passes at the 3 point line to initiate the offense. Jefferson would be great in pick and roll but Doc apparently doesnt run that.

        Telfair would be great on pick and roll and penetration plays, but Doc literally has him stop after going around a pick. Its unbelievable to watch. Telfair gets a pick and just stops on the perimeter and waits for the D to reset before swinging the ball back around the key. Doc's "offense" completely negates Telfairs ability to penetrate and create. In fact, Doc's offense doesnt really require PG play, so there was actually no reason for us Celtics fans to get excited when we got Telfair and Rondo. Rondo does the exact same things I just said about Telfair, which leads me to believe its not tentative play on their parts, its literally what Doc has them do. This is why Delonte did so well last year, because he wasn't required to create, just to play solid bball and hit open shots.

        Doc stresses "uptempo" basketball, but he doesn't know what that really means. An uptempo team outlets the ball QUICKLY - its all coaching. You have to teach big men to get rid of the ball AS SOON AS THEY GRAB IT. If the other team scores, you dont dribble the ball out of bounds, you grab it and get it in bounds before the D can set up. You never see this from the C's because Doc just yells "RUN RUN RUN" but really doesn't discipline the team into executing it properly.

        Doc stresses "defense" but his defensive schemes are a joke and he puts players in a position to fail. Our lineups are awful in general.

        Tonight when we were up like 8 or 6 with a minute to go, he leaves Telfair in at PG even when he couldnt guard anyone, and Delonte clearly would have done better. After Knight scored on like 3 straight possession by Telfair fouling him, Doc finally puts in Delonte. We ended up winning on a Delonte buzzer beater. Point is, if Telfair was in there playing to his strengths down the stretch, maybe you could justify playing him in that spot. But if you are going to have play the role of spot shooter and defender, JUST PLAY DELONTE!

        Doc is a moron. Period. The end. Now its just a matter of how dumb Ainge/Ownership are... or if they are trying to tank and get Oden.

        The dynasty will return


        Paul Pierce... talent + heart + toughness = The Truth

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        • poster
          All Star
          • Nov 2003
          • 7506

          #34
          Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

          Ugh. Not good, still early though. Hopefully Friday night will be better.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #35
            Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

            Trust me, Doc doesn't know how to coach. I knew you thought I was lying but you see some of the same stuff I was telling you happening now

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            • Streets
              Supreme
              • Aug 2004
              • 5787

              #36
              Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

              Wow, I would have never guessed that Dallas would start this season 0-4.

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              • BTB
                Th*s **n't s** w*rld
                • Mar 2003
                • 3520

                #37
                Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                I never thought you were lying I just hoped that he would get better. And I thought our team was more talented than the team he had in Orlando.

                The dynasty will return


                Paul Pierce... talent + heart + toughness = The Truth

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #38
                  Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                  Its way more talented. Doc however hasn't changed since then, and he wont now.

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                  • 3rdAnswer
                    Regular Cat Records®
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 10845

                    #39
                    Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                    Ryan Gomes had a triple double. Wow.
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                    • y2dan
                      Joey Bats
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 709

                      #40
                      Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                      For those interested, a video of Chris Bosh's 3-pointer to win it last night:

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                      • bad_philanthropy
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 12167

                        #41
                        Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                        Originally posted by y2dan
                        For those interested, a video of Chris Bosh's 3-pointer to win it last night:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emVe-fuvIt8
                        The look on Sam Mitchell's face is priceless as he tries to maintain his composure but just can't and starts laughing in disbelief.

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                        • Muzyk23
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4192

                          #42
                          Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                          Originally posted by y2dan
                          For those interested, a video of Chris Bosh's 3-pointer to win it last night:

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emVe-fuvIt8
                          Sixers played great defense on that one, including Webber. There was nothing they could do.
                          NBA

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                          • Bird006
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 961

                            #43
                            Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                            Originally posted by y2dan
                            For those interested, a video of Chris Bosh's 3-pointer to win it last night:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emVe-fuvIt8
                            I literally jumped up 50 feet when he hit that shot. Amazing.

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                            • Pointguard
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2977

                              #44
                              Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                              Originally posted by Streets
                              Wow, I would have never guessed that Dallas would start this season 0-4.
                              Its time to blow the season and go after Greg Oden.

                              Or start winning. I figure we lose to Phoniex tonight but if we lose again to Portland on Sunday after 2 days rest, then I'll be for Oden to the Mavs campaign.

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                              • DW Rutledge
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 686

                                #45
                                Re: 11/8 Game Thread.....

                                i'm really enjoying the 0-4 mavs start.

                                don't worry, you guys won't need to complain about the calls d wade gets this year...

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