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  • P2K
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 8845

    #16
    Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

    Air...I'm with you on those points. Expansion and so on. Those are factors.


    As for AI...both him and Kobe are fake in their own ways. Kobe in trying to be like Jordan and Iverson for embracing hip hop, which is as fake as can be. Last time I checked, everyone in the 'hood isn't splashing chains worth 10 grand around their necks or riding around in the latest Bentley.

    There was nothing wrong with Stern trying to bring hip hop into the NBA. The problem is that the hip hop generation brought along some players that were very resentful to those outside of their "inner circle" (alot of times on purpose) and chalked it up to the hip hop culture.

    Meanwhile, it put a bad light on players of the hip hop generation like KG, Rip Hamilton and so on that could balance the culture they follow and also be media-savvy.

    KG broke into the league as a teenager, playing with a smile on his face and trully enthused to be where he was, which was in the NBA. Then you have these other players that come in with a chip on their shoulder, when in actuality the world and the moon has been handed to them since grade school.

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    • tenth
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 1109

      #17
      Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

      Originally posted by Air23
      But I do agree wholeheartedly with this, especially the bolded parts:
      wasn't MJ a huge part of the ginormous contracts? in 98 he made 33M for the season, which if he was his own team would've ranked him 10th in the league in payroll.

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      • 3rdAnswer
        Regular Cat Records®
        • Sep 2002
        • 10845

        #18
        Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

        Originally posted by tenth
        wasn't MJ a huge part of the ginormous contracts? in 98 he made 33M for the season, which if he was his own team would've ranked him 10th in the league in payroll.
        Not really. Mike got a good chunk of change from the Bulls, but he made most of his money with Nike and stuff.
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        • Mos1ted
          MVP
          • Sep 2002
          • 2267

          #19
          Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

          I agree with the potential tidbit. It seems a lot of players are drafted nowadays for potential, while NBA ready players fall to the second round or go undrafted. There's no way a high school player (except LBJ) should ever been drafted number one overall.
          According to my old marketing professor, satisfaction is when product performance meets or exceeds consumer expectation.

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          • Muzyk23
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 4192

            #20
            Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

            Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
            Not really. Mike got a good chunk of change from the Bulls, but he made most of his money with Nike and stuff.
            You are wrong. Jordan made that year sth like 100 million or so overall. Tenth is right, 30 something million for a season.
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            • Macar91
              Running of the Bulls
              • Mar 2005
              • 2574

              #21
              Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

              Originally posted by Muzyk23
              You are wrong. Jordan made that year sth like 100 million or so overall. Tenth is right, 30 something million for a season.

              You don't think the best player of all-time deserves the most money?
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              • grunt
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 9527

                #22
                Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                Originally posted by Streetz
                Air...I'm with you on those points. Expansion and so on. Those are factors.


                As for AI...both him and Kobe are fake in their own ways. Kobe in trying to be like Jordan and Iverson for embracing hip hop, which is as fake as can be. Last time I checked, everyone in the 'hood isn't splashing chains worth 10 grand around their necks or riding around in the latest Bentley.

                There was nothing wrong with Stern trying to bring hip hop into the NBA. The problem is that the hip hop generation brought along some players that were very resentful to those outside of their "inner circle" (alot of times on purpose) and chalked it up to the hip hop culture.

                Meanwhile, it put a bad light on players of the hip hop generation like KG, Rip Hamilton and so on that could balance the culture they follow and also be media-savvy.

                KG broke into the league as a teenager, playing with a smile on his face and trully enthused to be where he was, which was in the NBA. Then you have these other players that come in with a chip on their shoulder, when in actuality the world and the moon has been handed to them since grade school.
                How is AI fake for wearing expensive chains? I knew guys wearing those expensive chains and luxury german made cars around my way. Many NBA players emulate rich people in their neighborhoods.

                The hip hop generation didn't start with AI, KG, or Ripp. It started with Magic Johnson, Jordan, and Sir Charles. Hip Hop is just a marketing tool to get people attention but NBA players been listening to Rap/Hip Hop for a long time.

                AI problem is that he is still bitter about doing that bid. He dosen't care what people think. Who cares if AI or KG smiles. Let focus on their play and their contribution to the NBA. Louis Armstrong played with a smile on his face and Miles Davis turned his back on his audience and never smiled but they both made great music.

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                • jmill703
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 524

                  #23
                  Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                  Streetz you've been hating on AI ever since he left your beloved city.... Get over it....
                  "Solutions rarely come from the same minds as people who cause the problems"

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                  • Muzyk23
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 4192

                    #24
                    Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                    Originally posted by Macar91
                    You don't think the best player of all-time deserves the most money?

                    I was just correcting him. Believe me I was MJ's no. 1 fan.
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                    • P2K
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 8845

                      #25
                      Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                      Originally posted by grunt
                      How is AI fake for wearing expensive chains? I knew guys wearing those expensive chains and luxury german made cars around my way. Many NBA players emulate rich people in their neighborhoods.

                      You mean drug dealers. Because unless you're making the kind of cash legitamately to buy chains that are worth over $10,000, it's getting in your hands through illegal ways. There's no middle ground about it.

                      Anyways, all that jewelry and the cars and junk is all fake. It's a facade. It doesn't tell of the person rockin' all that stuff.


                      The hip hop generation didn't start with AI, KG, or Ripp. It started with Magic Johnson, Jordan, and Sir Charles. Hip Hop is just a marketing tool to get people attention but NBA players been listening to Rap/Hip Hop for a long time.
                      Ok, but we all know there is a big difference between that hip hop and the hip hop brought in by AI and them.



                      AI problem is that he is still bitter about doing that bid. He dosen't care what people think.
                      That's a big ol' fat lie right there. Iverson is as ultra sensitive as the next superstar ball player. I've witnessed that up close and personal from his days here in Philly.


                      Who cares if AI or KG smiles. Let focus on their play and their contribution to the NBA. Louis Armstrong played with a smile on his face and Miles Davis turned his back on his audience and never smiled but they both made great music.


                      Ok, but you do have to take into account that alot of people do care how you carry yourself while playing the game and how you are off the court.

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                      • P2K
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 8845

                        #26
                        Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                        Originally posted by jmill703
                        Streetz you've been hating on AI ever since he left your beloved city.... Get over it....
                        A comment from out of left field. I didn't say anything bad about AI, the man. Nor did I single him out.


                        Now go talk to the wall.

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                        • jmill703
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 524

                          #27
                          Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                          Originally posted by Streetz
                          A comment from out of left field. I didn't say anything bad about AI, the man. Nor did I single him out.


                          Now go talk to the wall.
                          Nah brush....Ever since AI got traded you have been bad mouthing him like crazy. Now your gonna deny it. Ok fine.
                          "Solutions rarely come from the same minds as people who cause the problems"

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                          • Lonestar210
                            Drive for 5
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1012

                            #28
                            Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                            damn, david stern should be fired for death threats against Iverson. this guy is ridiculous, an arrogant son of a b 1tch who is racist and wants his black players dead!

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                            • P2K
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 8845

                              #29
                              Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                              Originally posted by jmill703
                              Nah brush....Ever since AI got traded you have been bad mouthing him like crazy. Now your gonna deny it. Ok fine.
                              Where have I trashed Iverson in this thread? I would like to know.

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                              • P2K
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 8845

                                #30
                                Re: David Stern wants Allen Iverson 'dead'.

                                Originally posted by longhornsin2003
                                damn, david stern should be fired for death threats against Iverson. this guy is ridiculous, an arrogant son of a b 1tch who is racist and wants his black players dead!

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