Iverson also offered MJ starting spot!

[FOXYboy]

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i think vince is going nowhere in the league right now. no direction!

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i think vince is going nowhere in the league right now. no direction!

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Neither are the Raptors.

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i think vince is going nowhere in the league right now. no direction!

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Neither are the Raptors.

[avh00a]

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"Practice, We talkin bout practice"
I never thought that the player that uttered these words would try to do something as classy as offer some of the spotlight to another.

Unfortunately VC is a stuck up jerk that doesn't even deserve to be in the game.... much less carry Jordan's jock.

Come on Vince, if a thug like AI can have some class, why can't you?

[avh00a]

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"Practice, We talkin bout practice"
I never thought that the player that uttered these words would try to do something as classy as offer some of the spotlight to another.

Unfortunately VC is a stuck up jerk that doesn't even deserve to be in the game.... much less carry Jordan's jock.

Come on Vince, if a thug like AI can have some class, why can't you?

[mvb34]

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VC did nothing wrong!! The fan voted him in and he's able to play then he should play!! I bet VC doesn't get booed either!!

Hey avh00a

A I is not a thug!!

[mvb34]

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VC did nothing wrong!! The fan voted him in and he's able to play then he should play!! I bet VC doesn't get booed either!!

Hey avh00a

A I is not a thug!!

[HotSauce2k3]

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Despite being a hardcore Carter fan, I realize the error in his ways... but how can you NOT see why he's doing what he's doing? I mean, I understand and in some ways support the arguments against him, but what is he to do? Surly he can't step down from his position as a starter... for many reasons.

He is one of the top vote-getters for the NBA all-star game... meaning... A LOT OF FREAKING PEOPLE LIKE HIM. You think his image is bad now? Imagine how it would look if he disappointed the majority of the NBA audience. I actually feel sorry for him, because he for the most part can't win in this situation. If he doesn't offer Jordan a spot and/or refuse to play because of his lack of participation this year, he will be hated by all sports-heads and analysts and so-called "SERIOUS" fans of the NBA. And if he does in fact do so, he will lose a portion of the respect he gets from all the fans that voted him in. His only winning option, which I'm glad he took, is to start in the A-S game. How does he win in this situation? Easy... he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.

On another note, don't go about saying that he is a selfish, cocky bastard with no class because that is obviously not the case. As stated earlier in this thread, why should Carter give his spot up to the man that has ragged on his *** throughout his tenure as an NBA player? Cocky? Maybe... but pride? Most definitely.

And don't get me started on Iverson and McGrady. As much as I truly respect T-Mac and AI, their actions were just low. T-Mac, as we all know, is oh-so-humble when it comes to his cousin, and anything related to the Raptors (sarcasm, duh). Yeah he's a good guy... but... he always tries to prove something (audacity) and upstage Carter for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay on the court, but a cheap tactic to win over the media and take a shot to Carter? Please. And look who else jumped the press bandwagon... AI of all people. Don't even mention 'class' in the same sentence with this guy's name. He's obviously doing it for recognition. Just because he made a private phone call, it's like anyone wouldn't have known in the end... Man I can't wait to see who else wants to get in on this empty glory.

And lastly... acknowledging the fact that Carter doesn't deserve to start the game... does JORDAN? Don't brand me with Jordan-***** just yet, I do think he's the best ever. But the season of 2002-2003, has Jordan shown that he deserves a starting position either? NO! Just because he has revolutionized the game does not mean he should steal the spotlight of young up-and-comers that have produced far more than he has this year. Yeah, glory, respect, blah blah blah... I'm sure he has more than enough of that and he knows it (he did turn down both offers didn't he?) so he's humble (and aware) enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.

Even with all of this in mind, why do people keep talking about it? Even Jordan himself admits that there is no wrong at all in this situation. Look it up on ESPN.com. Just because you hate Carter doesn't give you the justification to blindly knock on him for this.

Will Carter get booed? Maybe. Will he succumb to all the pressure? Who knows. His focus has been unstable for a while. I would love to see Carter step up and prove his worth though. You know he has what it takes.

[HotSauce2k3]

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Despite being a hardcore Carter fan, I realize the error in his ways... but how can you NOT see why he's doing what he's doing? I mean, I understand and in some ways support the arguments against him, but what is he to do? Surly he can't step down from his position as a starter... for many reasons.

He is one of the top vote-getters for the NBA all-star game... meaning... A LOT OF FREAKING PEOPLE LIKE HIM. You think his image is bad now? Imagine how it would look if he disappointed the majority of the NBA audience. I actually feel sorry for him, because he for the most part can't win in this situation. If he doesn't offer Jordan a spot and/or refuse to play because of his lack of participation this year, he will be hated by all sports-heads and analysts and so-called "SERIOUS" fans of the NBA. And if he does in fact do so, he will lose a portion of the respect he gets from all the fans that voted him in. His only winning option, which I'm glad he took, is to start in the A-S game. How does he win in this situation? Easy... he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.

On another note, don't go about saying that he is a selfish, cocky bastard with no class because that is obviously not the case. As stated earlier in this thread, why should Carter give his spot up to the man that has ragged on his *** throughout his tenure as an NBA player? Cocky? Maybe... but pride? Most definitely.

And don't get me started on Iverson and McGrady. As much as I truly respect T-Mac and AI, their actions were just low. T-Mac, as we all know, is oh-so-humble when it comes to his cousin, and anything related to the Raptors (sarcasm, duh). Yeah he's a good guy... but... he always tries to prove something (audacity) and upstage Carter for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay on the court, but a cheap tactic to win over the media and take a shot to Carter? Please. And look who else jumped the press bandwagon... AI of all people. Don't even mention 'class' in the same sentence with this guy's name. He's obviously doing it for recognition. Just because he made a private phone call, it's like anyone wouldn't have known in the end... Man I can't wait to see who else wants to get in on this empty glory.

And lastly... acknowledging the fact that Carter doesn't deserve to start the game... does JORDAN? Don't brand me with Jordan-***** just yet, I do think he's the best ever. But the season of 2002-2003, has Jordan shown that he deserves a starting position either? NO! Just because he has revolutionized the game does not mean he should steal the spotlight of young up-and-comers that have produced far more than he has this year. Yeah, glory, respect, blah blah blah... I'm sure he has more than enough of that and he knows it (he did turn down both offers didn't he?) so he's humble (and aware) enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.

Even with all of this in mind, why do people keep talking about it? Even Jordan himself admits that there is no wrong at all in this situation. Look it up on ESPN.com. Just because you hate Carter doesn't give you the justification to blindly knock on him for this.

Will Carter get booed? Maybe. Will he succumb to all the pressure? Who knows. His focus has been unstable for a while. I would love to see Carter step up and prove his worth though. You know he has what it takes.

[mateen]

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Hey avh00a

A I is not a thug!!

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[mateen]

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Hey avh00a

A I is not a thug!!

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Despite being a hardcore Carter fan, I realize the error in his ways... but how can you NOT see why he's doing what he's doing? I mean, I understand and in some ways support the arguments against him, but what is he to do? Surly he can't step down from his position as a starter... for many reasons.

He is one of the top vote-getters for the NBA all-star game... meaning... A LOT OF FREAKING PEOPLE LIKE HIM. You think his image is bad now? Imagine how it would look if he disappointed the majority of the NBA audience. I actually feel sorry for him, because he for the most part can't win in this situation. If he doesn't offer Jordan a spot and/or refuse to play because of his lack of participation this year, he will be hated by all sports-heads and analysts and so-called "SERIOUS" fans of the NBA. And if he does in fact do so, he will lose a portion of the respect he gets from all the fans that voted him in. His only winning option, which I'm glad he took, is to start in the A-S game. How does he win in this situation? Easy... he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.

On another note, don't go about saying that he is a selfish, cocky bastard with no class because that is obviously not the case. As stated earlier in this thread, why should Carter give his spot up to the man that has ragged on his *** throughout his tenure as an NBA player? Cocky? Maybe... but pride? Most definitely.

And don't get me started on Iverson and McGrady. As much as I truly respect T-Mac and AI, their actions were just low. T-Mac, as we all know, is oh-so-humble when it comes to his cousin, and anything related to the Raptors (sarcasm, duh). Yeah he's a good guy... but... he always tries to prove something (audacity) and upstage Carter for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay on the court, but a cheap tactic to win over the media and take a shot to Carter? Please. And look who else jumped the press bandwagon... AI of all people. Don't even mention 'class' in the same sentence with this guy's name. He's obviously doing it for recognition. Just because he made a private phone call, it's like anyone wouldn't have known in the end... Man I can't wait to see who else wants to get in on this empty glory.

And lastly... acknowledging the fact that Carter doesn't deserve to start the game... does JORDAN? Don't brand me with Jordan-***** just yet, I do think he's the best ever. But the season of 2002-2003, has Jordan shown that he deserves a starting position either? NO! Just because he has revolutionized the game does not mean he should steal the spotlight of young up-and-comers that have produced far more than he has this year. Yeah, glory, respect, blah blah blah... I'm sure he has more than enough of that and he knows it (he did turn down both offers didn't he?) so he's humble (and aware) enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.

Even with all of this in mind, why do people keep talking about it? Even Jordan himself admits that there is no wrong at all in this situation. Look it up on ESPN.com. Just because you hate Carter doesn't give you the justification to blindly knock on him for this.

Will Carter get booed? Maybe. Will he succumb to all the pressure? Who knows. His focus has been unstable for a while. I would love to see Carter step up and prove his worth though. You know he has what it takes.

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Man are you crazy? Carter first off is soft. Second how does he deserve the spot and only played 10 games. He should offer his spot at least, but he's acting like no one knows if it wasn't a popularity contes he wouldn't be there.

Can you at least say Carter thaought about someone other than himself like T-Mac, and AI did? No, which is why he is a poor leader. He hasn't gained the respect of anyone, but he just expects it to fall in his lap. The last time I checked, his biggest game was a dunk highlight over TD, and you think he deserves to start.

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enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.


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Once again are you watching the real NBA? MJ's stats aren't too far under any of these guys while being 40, and his career stats aren't even to be compared to, to these guys. Carter has never brought his game night in and out like MJ on both sides of the floor, ehich again makes him a poor leader. </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.


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He has yet to prove this in his career. T-mac is a better player, and I am sure Toronto or anyone would take T-mac over Vince period.

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Despite being a hardcore Carter fan, I realize the error in his ways... but how can you NOT see why he's doing what he's doing? I mean, I understand and in some ways support the arguments against him, but what is he to do? Surly he can't step down from his position as a starter... for many reasons.

He is one of the top vote-getters for the NBA all-star game... meaning... A LOT OF FREAKING PEOPLE LIKE HIM. You think his image is bad now? Imagine how it would look if he disappointed the majority of the NBA audience. I actually feel sorry for him, because he for the most part can't win in this situation. If he doesn't offer Jordan a spot and/or refuse to play because of his lack of participation this year, he will be hated by all sports-heads and analysts and so-called "SERIOUS" fans of the NBA. And if he does in fact do so, he will lose a portion of the respect he gets from all the fans that voted him in. His only winning option, which I'm glad he took, is to start in the A-S game. How does he win in this situation? Easy... he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.

On another note, don't go about saying that he is a selfish, cocky bastard with no class because that is obviously not the case. As stated earlier in this thread, why should Carter give his spot up to the man that has ragged on his *** throughout his tenure as an NBA player? Cocky? Maybe... but pride? Most definitely.

And don't get me started on Iverson and McGrady. As much as I truly respect T-Mac and AI, their actions were just low. T-Mac, as we all know, is oh-so-humble when it comes to his cousin, and anything related to the Raptors (sarcasm, duh). Yeah he's a good guy... but... he always tries to prove something (audacity) and upstage Carter for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay on the court, but a cheap tactic to win over the media and take a shot to Carter? Please. And look who else jumped the press bandwagon... AI of all people. Don't even mention 'class' in the same sentence with this guy's name. He's obviously doing it for recognition. Just because he made a private phone call, it's like anyone wouldn't have known in the end... Man I can't wait to see who else wants to get in on this empty glory.

And lastly... acknowledging the fact that Carter doesn't deserve to start the game... does JORDAN? Don't brand me with Jordan-***** just yet, I do think he's the best ever. But the season of 2002-2003, has Jordan shown that he deserves a starting position either? NO! Just because he has revolutionized the game does not mean he should steal the spotlight of young up-and-comers that have produced far more than he has this year. Yeah, glory, respect, blah blah blah... I'm sure he has more than enough of that and he knows it (he did turn down both offers didn't he?) so he's humble (and aware) enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.

Even with all of this in mind, why do people keep talking about it? Even Jordan himself admits that there is no wrong at all in this situation. Look it up on ESPN.com. Just because you hate Carter doesn't give you the justification to blindly knock on him for this.

Will Carter get booed? Maybe. Will he succumb to all the pressure? Who knows. His focus has been unstable for a while. I would love to see Carter step up and prove his worth though. You know he has what it takes.

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Man are you crazy? Carter first off is soft. Second how does he deserve the spot and only played 10 games. He should offer his spot at least, but he's acting like no one knows if it wasn't a popularity contes he wouldn't be there.

Can you at least say Carter thaought about someone other than himself like T-Mac, and AI did? No, which is why he is a poor leader. He hasn't gained the respect of anyone, but he just expects it to fall in his lap. The last time I checked, his biggest game was a dunk highlight over TD, and you think he deserves to start.

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enough to know that his game isn't on the same level as the rest of the starters.


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Once again are you watching the real NBA? MJ's stats aren't too far under any of these guys while being 40, and his career stats aren't even to be compared to, to these guys. Carter has never brought his game night in and out like MJ on both sides of the floor, ehich again makes him a poor leader. </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
he has to step up and prove that he deserves all-star recognition, and I think he will.


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He has yet to prove this in his career. T-mac is a better player, and I am sure Toronto or anyone would take T-mac over Vince period.

[noa999]

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I'm just happy that my 2 fav players were the ones that offered Jordan the starting spot. [censored] Carter..

[noa999]

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I'm just happy that my 2 fav players were the ones that offered Jordan the starting spot. [censored] Carter..