You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

[Macar91]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

And how has that wonderful Top 5 pick panned out versus Eddy Curry's production this year??

Randolph Morris would have been a lottery pick this year so again...what is all the fuss about?

How can you compare a rook to a guy who has been in the league for six years? He better be putting up better stats than a guy who is lucky to get 20 minutes of PT a game.

Tyrus's stats may not be all that impressive, but the energy and fire he brings to the team really help them out in certain situations.

[Spectre]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

And how has that wonderful Top 5 pick panned out versus Eddy Curry's production this year??

Randolph Morris would have been a lottery pick this year so again...what is all the fuss about?

I'm not a huge Curry fan but I'll be perfectly content with the trade as long as the Knicks aren't #1 in the lottery.

Curry is part of a very small group of NBA centers that are elite scorers. The problem was, he started getting double-triple teamed at the end of the year after Crawford went down. Without perimeter shooters, those double and triple teams are damn effective at shutting Curry down.

He did a damn good job this year. Sure, his rebounding could be a lot better but it wasn't atrocious by any means.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

How can you compare a rook to a guy who has been in the league for six years? He better be putting up better stats than a guy who is lucky to get 20 minutes of PT a game.

Tyrus's stats may not be all that impressive, but the energy and fire he brings to the team really help them out in certain situations.

So does the Knicks' 20th pick last year Renaldo Balkman.

People make too much of the Curry trade as if the Knicks lost out somehow. We got a franchise, all-star caliber center last year and got a lottery pick this year in Morris.

To say that the Bulls got over in the trade is ridiculous. That's why they've been dying to get a scoring big man all season long.

[dossier]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

How can you compare a rook to a guy who has been in the league for six years? He better be putting up better stats than a guy who is lucky to get 20 minutes of PT a game.

Tyrus's stats may not be all that impressive, but the energy and fire he brings to the team really help them out in certain situations.

I think I understand what your saying. Eddy IMO is a great player whom scores snd blocks shots, but he is not someone to give morale to the team, to make other players worry about their reputation. I've watched a couple og games and no player wants to get blocked by Thomas so the number of J's go way up. They've seen what he is capable of and are therefore more intimidated.

[Macar91]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

I think I understand what your saying. Eddy IMO is a great player whom scores snd blocks shots, but he is not someone to give morale to the team, to make other players worry about their reputation. I've watched a couple og games and no player wants to get blocked by Thomas so the number of J's go way up. They've seen what he is capable of and are therefore more intimidated.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was getting at. I can picture Tyrus as a guy like Kenyon Martin back when he was with the Nets, only being a stud on the defensive end as well. If Tyrus can develop any kind of low-post game this winter, him and Big Ben will be SCARY down low.

[X*Cell]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

How can you compare a rook to a guy who has been in the league for six years? He better be putting up better stats than a guy who is lucky to get 20 minutes of PT a game.

Tyrus's stats may not be all that impressive, but the energy and fire he brings to the team really help them out in certain situations.

Per 48 Minutes

Tyrus Thomas ... 18.8 pts, 48.4% fg, 5.2 ft's, 13.2 reb, 3.9 blk, 2.3 stl, 24.76 EFF

Eddy Curry ... 26.3 pts, 57.6% fg, 6.8 ft's, 9.6 reb, 0.7 blk, 0.6 stl, 22.00 EFF

I'd say Thomas is a bit better as far as these stats go. Curry is the better scorer though.

[aa2ba]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

Per 48 Minutes

Tyrus Thomas ... 18.8 pts, 48.4% fg, 5.2 ft's, 13.2 reb, 3.9 blk, 2.3 stl, 24.76 EFF

Eddy Curry ... 26.3 pts, 57.6% fg, 6.8 ft's, 9.6 reb, 0.7 blk, 0.6 stl, 22.00 EFF

I'd say Thomas is a bit better as far as these stats go. Curry is the better scorer though.

Although I am not a fan of either player, I don't agree with the Per 48 minute stat comparison.

Lets also throw into the mix the fact that Curry is going up against front line players for the most part, while Tyrus is a 2nd unit player.

Not to take away from Thomas, but its easier to be effective/efficient against a 2nd unit.

[AI_Franchise]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

If we could do this trade over and over again, I'll take Eddy Curry.
The need for a bigman has been apparent ever since Ewing left us.

[motorcrossman1]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

As a Bulls fan, I have also been keeping a very close eye at the bottom of the standings every day. Initially, I was hoping the Knicks would get 5th-worst. I see it's possible for 4th-worst, but I'm not counting on it. If the Knicks get 5th-worst, my eyes will be glued to the Lottery.

And I'm also just as okay if the lottery would send us with the #2 pick.


As for the Suns-Hawks, now I can see why the partial owner in Atlanta at the time decided to give up his portion. lol

I all acuality, Belkin contract was illegal voided and now he is in court and about to become full owner of the team, basically a sticky sitution... Memphis is also having ownership problems. But the Hawks trade was probably one of the worst ever. Especailly if who Pho. draft is a stud.

[Court_vision]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

To clarify fellas:

I am NOT debating the trade...

What I am saying is:

IT has done a decent job IMO...and Curry has improved a tonne...

However, the Knicks just cannot take a break and they just seem almost destined to get the number one pick...

It's almost like fate...that Oden will have a HOF career and every NY journalist for the rest of eternity will be saying "you know, that was the Knicks pick".

The franchise is such a soap opera...it's like the next episode is scripted. "Knicks get number one pick in deepest draft for a decade...but the picks gone already"...

It's almost like Thomas is destined for that as a GM...fairly or unfairly...

[X*Cell]

Re: You just know the Knicks are going to get the number one pick...

If we could do this trade over and over again, I'll take Eddy Curry.
The need for a bigman has been apparent ever since Ewing left us.

If the Knicks had a draft pick they would have a reason to lose the rest of the season. Greg Oden will be a better big man.