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  • Streets
    Supreme
    • Aug 2004
    • 5787

    #31
    Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

    Originally posted by ZB9
    are the playoffs almost over already? I was under the impression that the second round just started...fyi, Nash's playoff verdict for this year is still out. He beat the Lakers, big deal.


    anyway, it doesnt matter. Dirk outplayed Nash in the playoffs last season and dominated the Suns but it didnt matter because its a regular season award, right Suns fans?
    LOL at "last year". Between Dirks one dominant series against the Spurs, and the refs "screwing" you in the finals, I don't know if "last year" will EVER be dropped. And "this year", Dirk's meltdown really didn't do much to help you guys move on unfortunately.

    Originally posted by ZB9
    Nash probably doesnt give a crap about the MVP this year anyway.
    Once you get about 3 of them.... probably not.

    Originally posted by ZB9
    I hope Nash finally gets over that hump and wins the NBA finals. Hell, i hope he just makes it to the finals this season finally.
    Somehow I doubt that. Your hate for Nash is well documented by most on this board.

    Originally posted by ZB9
    It will be good for the NBA if he does. and Nash's window is closing. If he doesnt do it this year or next year, he probably wont. Dirk's time is getting shorter also, but he's 5 years younger than Nash and plays a position that usually allows for a longer career. Hopefully, both players will have championships before they are done playing.
    I dunno, I was always under the impression that big men have shorter shelf lives and get "older faster" due to their size and the amount of physicality their bodies endure banging in the paint.... then again, maybe Dirk does have a lot of time left...

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #32
      Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

      Dirk deserves it this season [though IMO it was still Nash], under the current criteria, but the rule needs to be changed from a regular season award to a "best player of the season/post season". Hopefully it changes as fast as next season.. and Dirk will forever live in infamy.

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      • Cebby
        Banned
        • Apr 2005
        • 22327

        #33
        Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        Dirk deserves it this season [though IMO it was still Nash], under the current criteria, but the rule needs to be changed from a regular season award to a "best player of the season/post season". Hopefully it changes as fast as next season.. and Dirk will forever live in infamy.
        They need to do what every sport does and award regular season awards...following the regular season! If they gave it to Dirk at halftime of the first Dallas-GSW game, there'd be minimal problems. It's the fact that they reward it a month after the regular season that's stupid.

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        • ex carrabba fan
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          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #34
          Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

          Exactly. That makes way too much sense though.

          I would still like the post season to be a factor in who gets the award.

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          • SteelersFreak
            All Star
            • May 2004
            • 9582

            #35
            Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

            Originally posted by ZB9
            are the playoffs almost over already? I was under the impression that the second round just started...fyi, Nash's playoff verdict for this year is still out. He beat the Lakers, big deal.

            anyway, it doesnt matter. Dirk outplayed Nash in the playoffs last season and dominated the Suns but it didnt matter because its a regular season award, right Suns fans?

            Nash probably doesnt give a crap about the MVP this year anyway. I hope Nash finally gets over that hump and wins the NBA finals. Hell, i hope he just makes it to the finals this season finally. It will be good for the NBA if he does. and Nash's window is closing. If he doesnt do it this year or next year, he probably wont. Dirk's time is getting shorter also, but he's 5 years younger than Nash and plays a position that usually allows for a longer career. Hopefully, both players will have championships before they are done playing.
            I'm not talking about what Nash did, I'm talking about how poorly Dirk did.

            I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, I think he did, but the poor postseason makes it look very bad for him.
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            • SoMiss2000
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2002
              • 20499

              #36
              Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

              Originally posted by SteelersFreak
              I'm not talking about what Nash did, I'm talking about how poorly Dirk did.

              I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, I think he did, but the poor postseason makes it look very bad for him.
              This is a team sport and Dirk is not the reason why we didn't make it out of the first round. JET sucked, Stack sucked, Devin sucked, Dampier sucked, everyone aside from Howard and Diop sucked. Dirk struggled and no one had his back. Duncan gets great guard play from Parker, Finley is fillling it up, Bowen plays great D, Ginobili is always solid. Baron Davis got great support in the first round. J-Rich filled it up, Stephen Jackson couldn't miss, etc. My point is, it's timeout for putting it all on Dirk when no one had his back other than J-Howard. Dirk had a great regular season on a 67 win team, he deserves it. I'm proud of his accomplishment. Also, it's assuring to know that no one is harder on Dirk than he is himself, so I expect for him to rebound.
              Last edited by SoMiss2000; 05-11-2007, 08:07 PM.
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              • Sully
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 16003

                #37
                Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                Josh Howard is the MVP on the Mavs.

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                • SoMiss2000
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 20499

                  #38
                  Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                  Originally posted by Sully
                  Josh Howard is the MVP on the Mavs during the playoffs.
                  fixed
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                  • Sully
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 16003

                    #39
                    Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                    Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                    fixed
                    The Mavs were in the playoffs?

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                    • Cebby
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 22327

                      #40
                      Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                      Originally posted by Sully
                      The Mavs were in the playoffs?
                      They were kidnapped by the Dirk haters and replaced with bum replicas in an elaborate Pro-Nash conspiracy.

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                      • Hassan Darkside
                        We Here
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 7561

                        #41
                        Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                        Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                        What are you talking about? It is official he just hasn't received it yet.

                        Anyways, congrats to Dirk, i thought he was going to win it and congrats on a great regular season.
                        I despise Dirk so it's not official until David Stern kisses him on the cheak and hands him the trophy. Anything could happen between now and then...like an assassination...Or Dirk could be heavy into morphine and the commish won't give him the MVP because it gives the league a negative image.


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                        • ex carrabba fan
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #42
                          Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                          Originally posted by Sully
                          The Mavs were in the playoffs?
                          :y4: :y4:

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                          • ZB9
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 18387

                            #43
                            Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                            Originally posted by Sully
                            Josh Howard is the MVP on the Mavs.
                            you can tell the people that didnt watch any Mavs games. yet the same people want to act like they know what they are talking about when it comes to the Mavs when they obviously dont.

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                            • Sully
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 16003

                              #44
                              Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                              Look, it's ZB, defender of all things Dirk!

                              That's good though. With how soft he is, he needs people like you.


                              Edit: Let me add that smiley, because we all know that some people can't take a joke.
                              Last edited by Sully; 05-11-2007, 10:19 PM.

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                              • ZB9
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 18387

                                #45
                                Re: Well, Dirk is officially the MVP

                                Originally posted by HungryBologna
                                Big deal? FYI, Dallas didn't even make it out of the 1st.
                                no its not a big deal that the Suns beat the Lakers. ill be impressed if Nash can finally beat the Spurs. They have owned him going back to his Mavs days and he has never been able to get over that hump. The Spurs have been worse to Nash than the Patriots were to Peyton Manning. That has been an obstacle for Nash. but maybe this is the year

                                its hilarious the double standard that exists. Nash is the two time MVP and is 5 years older than Dirk, yet he gets a free pass when it comes to the playoffs. but I guess Dirk is held to a different standard.

                                You're right. But you CONSTANTLY bring up the past and playoffs from previous years so what the hell are you talking about, right ZB? It was a Dallas fan that said that.
                                its simple. the voters were not able to look into the future and analyze this years playoffs. If playoffs were going to be takin into account for this years MVP award (and im sure some voters do), then last year's playoffs would have been what was taken into account moreso. This year's playoffs will have more of an affect on next seasons's MVP voting for voters that care about players' career playoff performances.

                                its hilarious. we have been talking about the MVP all year and when past playoff performances for a possible 3 time MVP are brought up, then Suns fans have been very quick to remind people that its a regular season award. yet, when Dirk wins his first award, then playoffs matter. The double standard is so ridiculous its funny.

                                I would say that career playoff performances would be more important when discussing a player about to be the 4th player ever to win 3 straight MVPs, then for someone that won his first. After all, there has never been a 3 time winner that hasnt won the finals much less a 3 time winner that has never even made it to the finals. However, there have been single MVP winners that have never won the finals.

                                Both Nash and Dirk have done some serious damage in the playoffs so far in their careers. Both of them have been among the best current players in the league when it comes to the playoffs in their careers thus far. but BOTH of them also have steps to take in the playoffs obviously. BOTH players still have a lot to prove.

                                Again, If someone wants to bring up and analyze someones playoff career because they just won their first MVP. than i guess they should also analyze someone that has won two straight MVPs. Nash leads all active players with most playoff game appearances without a finals appearance.. but again maybe he will do it this year. I guess it doesnt really matter though, because Nash gets a free pass

                                I admit though, seems pretty awkward that the MVP is sitting at home.
                                i guess the NFL and MLB MVPs were awkward as well. LT didnt win a playoff game, and Ryan Howard didnt make the playoffs. Yes, the NBA is different, but the award is voted on much the same way.

                                yes, it sucks that the Mavs choked in the first round. Yes, obviously Dirk wants to be still playing. but that doesnt make him any less deserving of winning the MVP. i know you trolls want to try to diminish him and the award, but it really doesnt matter what yall think because Dirk is the MVP.
                                Last edited by ZB9; 05-12-2007, 01:37 AM.

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