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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #76
    Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

    Originally posted by jmood88
    You do realize we can watch the games, right? It would be different if people just heard about this but he's been in the league for years and all you have to do is watch him play to see that his reputation is deserved.
    Yeah, I'm sure everyone can catch the games, they're on television after all. But, you people behave as though he's been labeled a "dirty" player his entire career, when he's actually been called-out recently (either 2004-2005) or that's when the mainstream media picked up on this story. That Wally video is either 3 or 4 years old, but people act like it happened last week. Bruce wasn't, to my knowledge, suspend for that incident, just like he hasn't been for any of the other supposed "dirty" plays he's been involved in.

    Yet, other players have a similar physical style of defense (Ron Artest and Raja Bell) and people don't complain. Why? Well, those other players don't make it deep into the playoffs and those guys don't play on the team people wish would go away (just admit it already). People use Bruce's perceived "dirty" play, Manu's alleged constant flopping (which isn't as bad as Oberto), and Robert Horry's unnecessarily harsh body-check on Steve Nash as a reason to hate the Spurs (or at least hate those 3 players) organization and ignore their dominance. It's sad, actually.

    Also, you didn't answer why (a high-character guy) Michael Finley would play with a guy that he once called "dirty" in Bowen? Please, don't say that he did it just for the ring, because he had to have some measure of respect for Bowen to play with him.
    Last edited by J_Posse; 06-08-2007, 05:19 PM.
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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52917

      #77
      Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

      Because Ron Artest or Raja Bell or any other "good defender" have not tried to injure people on repeated occasions.

      And before you bring up Raja's clothesline on Kobe, a "heat of the moment" incident is not the same as repeated (and consequently, seemingly intentional) offenses and attempts.

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      • bamalam
        MVP
        • Nov 2002
        • 1407

        #78
        Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
        Because Ron Artest or Raja Bell or any other "good defender" have not tried to injure people on repeated occasions.

        And before you bring up Raja's clothesline on Kobe, a "heat of the moment" incident is not the same as repeated (and consequently, seemingly intentional) offenses and attempts.

        lol

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52917

          #79
          Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

          Did I say something funny?

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          • RubenDouglas
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2003
            • 11202

            #80
            Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

            from SoMiss2000: as long as I got millions and a family, I couldn't care less about someone not liking me.
            i think its more of a question or morales and values.. just look at all these old rich dudes and how some of them earned their money.. questionable actions but they did them. they may have been a complete jerk all their lives with very little respect to anyone else with their constant yelling, but they got the job done. i know plenty of people like that. they arent well liked by their peers. there respected for what theyve done, but not the route that got them there. if he can go to sleep at the end of the day ok with his actions thats fine. i know in 25 years looking back, i would regret and probably throw away those rings and memories knowing how i got them.

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            • Gibbz
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 8240

              #81
              Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
              Did I say something funny?
              You said Raja Bell hasn't been a repeat offender of dirty plays.


              *pops out of thread*

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              • wangjaz
                Rookie
                • Aug 2006
                • 433

                #82
                Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                just found this thread, and wanted to say, guys like Bowen and R. Bell are the type of players everyone loves to hate.
                sorta like how everyone hated old school guys like C.Oakley or Rodman.
                that is UNLESS they're on your team. If your a SA or PHX fan, u gotta love how tough they are and always get the toughest defensive assignment.
                i don't like nor care what direction this league is trying to take, but i still love those oldschool though guys who put those pretty boy scorers in their place, ala Raja's clotheline to Kobe.

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                • Gibbz
                  All Star
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8240

                  #83
                  Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                  Originally posted by wangjaz
                  just found this thread, and wanted to say, guys like Bowen and R. Bell are the type of players everyone loves to hate.
                  sorta like how everyone hated old school guys like C.Oakley or Rodman.
                  that is UNLESS they're on your team. If your a SA or PHX fan, u gotta love how tough they are and always get the toughest defensive assignment.
                  i don't like nor care what direction this league is trying to take, but i still love those oldschool though guys who put those pretty boy scorers in their place, ala Raja's clotheline to Kobe.
                  I agree, I love Bowen, and I would be thrilled if Bell was a member of the Spurs.

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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52917

                    #84
                    Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                    I actually hate when Bell acts like a piece of ****.

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                    • blackceasar
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3228

                      #85
                      Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                      Im not gonna lie. If Bowen played for my team and he kickend someone in the nuts, got away with it, and it factored in us winning a game. Im all for it. lol.
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                      • Jasong7777
                        All Star
                        • May 2005
                        • 6415

                        #86
                        Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                        Apparently he's getting a ring.
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                        • wangjaz
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 433

                          #87
                          Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                          actually my favorite moment of last year's playoffs was when Raja clothe lined Kobe.
                          that was awesome. haha
                          i'm not gonna lie. i want more of that in this "new" NBA.

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                          • Wasted Penguins
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 228

                            #88
                            Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                            I'm a huge Cavs fan, but I must say this about Bruce Bowen. He played awesome defense this whole series, he knows his role and he isn't afraid to shoot when he's open. I also don't recall him having 1 dirty foul/play or anything the entire series. He straight up frustrated Lebron. Granted, he had a lot of help, but still.

                            Bottom line, if Bruce Bowen wanted to play for the Cavs, I'd be grinning ear to ear.
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                            • X*Cell
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 8107

                              #89
                              Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                              Originally posted by gtyson
                              I'm a huge Cavs fan, but I must say this about Bruce Bowen. He played awesome defense this whole series, he knows his role and he isn't afraid to shoot when he's open. I also don't recall him having 1 dirty foul/play or anything the entire series. He straight up frustrated Lebron. Granted, he had a lot of help, but still.

                              Bottom line, if Bruce Bowen wanted to play for the Cavs, I'd be grinning ear to ear.
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                              • ExtremeGamer
                                Extra Life 11/3/18
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 35299

                                #90
                                Re: Apparently no one likes Bruce Bowen...

                                Originally posted by gtyson
                                I'm a huge Cavs fan, but I must say this about Bruce Bowen. He played awesome defense this whole series, he knows his role and he isn't afraid to shoot when he's open. I also don't recall him having 1 dirty foul/play or anything the entire series. He straight up frustrated Lebron. Granted, he had a lot of help, but still.

                                Bottom line, if Bruce Bowen wanted to play for the Cavs, I'd be grinning ear to ear.
                                Agreed, I said the same thing in the playoffs thread. He did nothing dirty to me and I don't see the hate towards him.

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