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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #1

    How Much is B.D. Worth?

    Love Baron, think he's definitely a top point guard in the league, but is he a max player? He claims he'd give up his 18 mill next season to initiate his early termination clause.

    He's dialed in on extension
    Davis wants Warriors to make an early call

    By Peter May, Globe Staff | September 23, 2007

    Baron Davis looks as slim as he's ever looked. "Just getting ready for training camp," he said. "It's the lightest I've ever been - under 213 - in a long time. I ain't been like that since my rookie year. I'm feeling good."

    While lighter around the waist, the Golden State Warriors catalyst would like to be heavier in the wallet - and sooner rather than later. He technically has two years left on his contract, but he has a termination option for the 2008-09 season. He said he wants the matter cleared up before the start of training camp or else he plans to enter free agency next summer.

    "There hasn't been too much talking. But in the next two weeks, I'm going to make a decision if I will re-sign or play the season out and be a free agent," he said.

    "I know where I want to be. I know what I want to do. You just have to see if the team that you're playing for wants you the most. Hopefully, we'll find out that soon."

    Through a spokesman, Golden State basketball boss Chris Mullin declined to comment.

    This could all be posturing, of course, for Davis would be forfeiting a considerable chunk of change ($17.81 million) by opting out of his contract. This is not unlike the situation the Celtics faced last summer with Paul Pierce; they ended up giving him a max extension. One has to assume the Warriors are not so inclined, or something would have been done by now. Golden State is understandably concerned about Davis's durability; he has missed 47 games over the last two seasons with the Warriors and 130 over the last five with Golden State and the Hornets.

    But Davis, who turned 28 last month, was indisputably the key player for the Warriors last season as they ended more than a decade of playoff drought - and then proceeded to shock the top-seeded Mavericks in the first round. Davis averaged 20.1 points and 8.1 assists in his first season under Don Nelson, who predicted Davis would have an All-Star year in his system. The playoffs were even better: 25.3 points a game.

    Nelson is coming back and, at least for this season, will have Davis back as his starting point guard. And Davis sounds like he wants to remain where he is. He's a California kid at heart, growing up in South Central Los Angeles, attending high school in Santa Monica, and then spending two years at UCLA.

    "I'm very happy there," he said. "That's the place I want to be. I feel like I'm starting something new and I want to finish on a great note. What better place to do it than a place that hasn't had that kind of recognition and that was in the dumps for years and years? And now we have something that everyone wants to be a part of.

    "For me, it's taking a team I've been with and struggled with for the last 2 1/2 years and we've been able to turn it around. We just have to see how much they trust me and want me."

    The Warriors were, indeed, a tremendous story last season. Following a 1-point loss to Washington on March 4, the Warriors stood at 26-35. They beat the Pistons the next night in Auburn Hills, Mich., and proceeded to win 16 of their final 21 games (nine of their last 10) to claim the No. 8 spot with a 42-40 record. Not only did they beat Dallas, they could have given Utah more of a struggle had they made free throws in an overtime loss in Game 2.

    But things have changed. The Warriors traded Jason Richardson to Charlotte for rookie Brandon Wright, which still has Davis shaking his head.

    "It's going to be hard going forward where we're losing 20 points a game," Davis said. (Gee, he didn't seem nearly as upset that Adonal Foyle was released. Golden State has also said good-bye to Sarunas Jasikevicius, who was almost as unimportant as Foyle.)

    "We have to wait and see," Davis said. "You have to trust management that they know what they're doing and go out and compete.

    "We got our work cut out for us. It's not like it's going to be easier, it's going to be a lot harder. We have to focus on being together as a team. A lot of growth and maturity is going to have to take place early because we have a tough schedule."

    They do indeed. There's a five-game Eastern swing in November, with a stop in Boston on the 21st. The first five home games are against Utah, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, and the Clippers. They won't be weighed down during the exhibition season; they play only seven games, and one of those is against an international team (Zalgiris Kaunas of Lithuania).

    Long before then, Davis's self-imposed deadline will have passed. He'll either be the beneficiary of a contract extension or, if he's true to his word, be playing his final season for the Warriors.
  • sleepychicken
    Rookie
    • Dec 2004
    • 196

    #2
    Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

    I love him, but it would be too risky IMO. He's too injury prone. Minor, nagging injuries and major ones.

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #3
      Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

      Too injury prone. I wouldn't want him on my team.

      I could see someone like Pat Riley going after him. He seems to want every big name on the market.

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      • oakfan162
        Get Ducked Up!
        • Mar 2006
        • 4724

        #4
        Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

        Sounds like Monte is going to get his chance in a year.
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        • X*Cell
          Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
          • Sep 2002
          • 8107

          #5
          Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

          If injuries weren't an issue... I would say hell yes he's a max player... but the possibility of injuries IS an issue. I wouldn't pay him that.
          SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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          • Flyboy
            Daydream Believer
            • Jun 2003
            • 11352

            #6
            Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

            Originally posted by X*Cell
            If injuries weren't an issue... I would say hell yes he's a max player... but the possibility of injuries IS an issue. I wouldn't pay him that.
            Yeah, that's exactly how I see it.
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            • Cebby
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 22327

              #7
              Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

              Originally posted by X*Cell
              If injuries weren't an issue... I would say hell yes he's a max player... but the possibility of injuries IS an issue. I wouldn't pay him that.
              I agree.

              On the otherhand, can NBA contracts have football clauses? Like, if he plays 85% of the season, he earns max money.

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              • X*Cell
                Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                • Sep 2002
                • 8107

                #8
                Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                Originally posted by The Soldier
                I agree.

                On the otherhand, can NBA contracts have football clauses? Like, if he plays 85% of the season, he earns max money.
                I think in pro sports... the actual money being spent paying a player is not something front office really worries about considering every NBA team has rediculous amounts of cash. The problem here is that if you sign Baron to a max contract, there is no room to sign anyone else. Losing a roster spot with a tight salary cap is MUCH MUCH worse than say you having to pay Baron Davis money when he doesn't play.
                SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                • GSW
                  Simnation
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 8041

                  #9
                  Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                  his injuries have always been been a product of poor conditioning... which is a problem in itself... defintly wouldnt give him max, nor do i think Mully will do that...

                  but he is a superstar, and deserves a decent extension... im thinking like 4 years 50 million.. if he says no to that.. ill let him do what he thinks he needs to do.
                  #Simnation

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                  • bullcats
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 597

                    #10
                    Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                    BD is a fantastic player but I would have a hard time spending a ton of money on him knowing his history with injuries.
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                    • DC
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 17996

                      #11
                      Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                      Originally posted by Golden State Warrior
                      but he is a superstar
                      Concrete evidence/videos please

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                      • Leahmic223
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2148

                        #12
                        Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                        Baron is a top 5 PG when and if he stays healthy.

                        That is the problem, he's never healthy to prove it.

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                        • toneloc99
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 824

                          #13
                          Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                          I would give BD an extension on his current deal for around 4 years $60 million. His past injuries are a concern, and he doesn't have the best track record of staying healthy, but he is worth gambling on. When healthy Baron is a top 5 PG. Baron is also coming off a playoffs where he carried the team on his back and destroyed every PG he faced. It is said that he is coming in the best shape of his career and near his rookie weight under 213 pounds. I think he will have an MVP caliber year this coming season.

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                          • bamalam
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 1407

                            #14
                            Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                            id trade him now while his value is high,

                            he is a good player, but, gs only got to #8 with him leading the way with a 1st rnd exit.

                            i wouldnt spend 12mil+/year on him to lead my team to that. where do you guys think gs going to finish over the next 2-3 yrs?

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                            • Benicio10
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 670

                              #15
                              Re: How Much is B.D. Worth?

                              Originally posted by bamalam
                              id trade him now while his value is high,

                              he is a good player, but, gs only got to #8 with him leading the way with a 1st rnd exit.

                              i wouldnt spend 12mil+/year on him to lead my team to that. where do you guys think gs going to finish over the next 2-3 yrs?
                              After we shipped Murphleavy for Harrington and Jackson we were one of the hottest teams in the NBA, winning 16 of 20 to close the season and knocking off the #1 seed in convincing fashion.

                              Memory lapse? We didn't suffer a first round exit. Our opponents, who had one of the best regular season records in NBA history did.

                              Baron is a perennial NBA star, and probably the most complete point guard in the NBA in terms of all around talent and athleticism.

                              Trading him sets us back another 5 years. We got the guy for Dale Davis and Speedy Claxton.

                              I wouldn't offer him the MAX either because of his injury history, but 10-11 mil. a year makes absolute sense. I'd also pursue Gilbert Arenas in free agency and give him the MAX. Maybe he'd like to come back to the O. That's the only circumstance I'd allow Baron to walk. I don't think Baron gets any MAX offers from around the league so as long as we beat anyone else's deal it'll work out.
                              Last edited by Benicio10; 10-01-2007, 01:21 PM.

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