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  • noa999
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    • Oct 2002
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    #541
    Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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    Look, I'm done with the personal attacks against Skillz. I think it is obvious that Kobe has a chance of being a better player than Jordan . . . so does TMac. But I think KDre was right from another post when he said that when Jordan was playing, he was a step above everyone else and had no one to compare to. Now that Jordan is leaving, ESPN and the NBA NEED someone to take the throne. The fact of the matter is that they NEED another MJ to carry the NBA into the future. So everything Kobe does is going to be compared to MJ. But I also read another interesting post where someone said to stop calling Kobe a better 3-point shooter than Jordan because Jordan had years of shooting above 40% from the arc. Actually, I honestly think that Kobe is close to Jordan from an offensive standpoint. The one problem I have is that Kobe hasn't shot above 50% from the field for a year and he also tends to go at people one-on-one instead of doing the best for the team. I also think that if Kobe is off from the outside, he should go at the basket more. The main reason Jordan has such a high field goal % for some years is because he used to take it right at people and dunk over them. He would take high-percentage shots. Kobe takes too many jumpers. He is young and should take it to the hole more. But who am I to critique? The fact still remains that in 15 years from now, Kobe could very well be considered the greatest. I just think that everyone is looking for someone to lead the NBA into the future and be the next MJ and Kobe is that person because he has skills and plays in a big market. If TMac played in NY, he would be getting just as much exposure and comparisons, if not more. I think they both need to up their defense more though. Neither one of them impresses me on defense NEARLY as much as Jordan did. People consider Jordan the best ever because he was a great offensive player AS WELL AS a fantastic defensive player. Listen, Chamberlain was a better offensive player than Jordan, hands down. But the main reason Jordan is considered the best ever is because he was just as tenacious a defender as he was an offensive threat. THAT'S WHAT MAKES A GREAT PLAYER!!! PLAYING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL!!! Kobe may very well be a better offensive player than Jordan now (it's very close IMO). But the thing that separates MJ from all the other greats is that his defense was just as good as his offense. And that's the bottom line . . . call me an MJ fanboy if you will but those are the facts. If I am an MJ fanboy, then so are about 95% of the other sports fans in the world. But that is what separates Jordan from the rest.

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    You're right...Jordan's defense was awesome...but remember, T-Mac and Kobe are still young and they have lots of time to improve their defense...I don't see why people just don't let Kobe be Kobe and Tracy be tracy...enough with the comparisons.

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    I think that might be the general problem. People compare Kobe to Jordan because he plays so similar. T-Mac on the other hand averages basically the same numbers all around as Kobe but is never compared to Jordan because he plays so different.

    Like you said earlier... they're both so similar but different at the same time, it's hard to explain.

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    • **DONOTDELETE**
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      • Oct 2025
      • 19598

      #542
      Re: All Kobe Talk.....

      Yeah...well, damn media always comparing people. Kobe will not be the next MJ...he will be the 1st Kobe Bryant. Just like people were comparing LeBron to Magic...he will be the first LeBron James...not the next Magic Johnson.

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      • **DONOTDELETE**
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        #543
        Re: All Kobe Talk.....

        Yeah...well, damn media always comparing people. Kobe will not be the next MJ...he will be the 1st Kobe Bryant. Just like people were comparing LeBron to Magic...he will be the first LeBron James...not the next Magic Johnson.

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        • Slip
          MVP
          • Oct 2002
          • 1526

          #544
          Re: All Kobe Talk.....

          I get the luxury of watching Kobe Bryant play 82 games a year. I have seen T-Mac play quite a few times as well, and I think they play similarly. Both are great jump shooters, good finishers, and penetraters. I think they are somewhat similar.

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          • Slip
            MVP
            • Oct 2002
            • 1526

            #545
            Re: All Kobe Talk.....

            I get the luxury of watching Kobe Bryant play 82 games a year. I have seen T-Mac play quite a few times as well, and I think they play similarly. Both are great jump shooters, good finishers, and penetraters. I think they are somewhat similar.

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            • **DONOTDELETE**
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              • Oct 2025
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              #546
              Re: All Kobe Talk.....

              Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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              • **DONOTDELETE**
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                #547
                Re: All Kobe Talk.....

                Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                • **DONOTDELETE**
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                  #548
                  Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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                  Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                  slackers!

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                  • **DONOTDELETE**
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                    • Oct 2025
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                    #549
                    Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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                    Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                    slackers!

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                    • lakerfan617
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                      • Jan 2003
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                      #550
                      Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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                      Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                      see what happe s when kobe doesn't shoot

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                      • lakerfan617
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 314

                        #551
                        Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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                        Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                        see what happe s when kobe doesn't shoot

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                        • **DONOTDELETE**
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                          #552
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                          Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                          see what happe s when kobe doesn't shoot

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                          yup, i've noticed that all year. whenever Kobe "hogs" the ball and puts up 40 something points, the Lakers seem to win by 20. When he "gets his teammates involved" and doesn't assert himself on offense, they lose by 20...

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                          • **DONOTDELETE**
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                            #553
                            Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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                            Kobe only had 14 points against the Sonics yesterday and the lakers lost by freakin 21 points...ouch.

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                            see what happe s when kobe doesn't shoot

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                            yup, i've noticed that all year. whenever Kobe "hogs" the ball and puts up 40 something points, the Lakers seem to win by 20. When he "gets his teammates involved" and doesn't assert himself on offense, they lose by 20...

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                            • **DONOTDELETE**
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                              #554
                              Re: All Kobe Talk.....

                              Kobe had a great game today...on the offenseive and defensive end...

                              29 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 6 steals, 1 block...

                              He did pretty damn good...I just wish they would have beaten Seattle last night...oh well...Dallas is next on Thursday.

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                              • **DONOTDELETE**
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                                #555
                                Re: All Kobe Talk.....

                                Kobe had a great game today...on the offenseive and defensive end...

                                29 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 6 steals, 1 block...

                                He did pretty damn good...I just wish they would have beaten Seattle last night...oh well...Dallas is next on Thursday.

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