Who Has Surprised in Pre-Season

[slimm44]

Re: Who Has Surprised in Pre-Season

c'mon AI Lite? and you are implying that he can shoot better than AI? ..c'mon

AI is a career 42% shooter. That's not great. I would definitely say he's a great scorer, but not a great shooter.

[Shakedowncapo]

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Yea, 42% isn't lighting the world on fire...but the way he carried the offense for 10 years(sometimes his own fault) makes me overlook it.

[Bornindamecca]

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Of course he can shoot. Any nitwit can see AI can shoot. But he is not a good shooter. He's an "okay" shooter.

Well apparently you're not one of those nitwits, because you said "Iverson can't shoot." When asked to moderate the statement, you didn't. You went to the extreme, said that he flat out couldn't shoot and then you reenforced your opinion again after that. That's what you're backpedaling on. Now you're adjusting your statement to say "he's more of a scorer than a shooter". Had you come out like that in the first place, I don't think people would have disagreed with you, and you know it.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Get the hell outta here with FG%. Are you kidding me.

Ray Ray's a career 44.6. Ivo's a 42.3. Give me a break. What is your criteria for a "good" shooter P2K? I'm very curious.

[P2K]

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Yea, 42% isn't lighting the world on fire...but the way he carried the offense for 10 years(sometimes his own fault) makes me overlook it.

Well, that's not a part of the argument. Of course you overlooked it because you knew he was the entire offense. What you shouldn't have liked, though, was that he refused to play in a set offense and took too many bad shots.

People get on Kobe, but he takes way less bad shots than AI and that adds to him being a much better shooter.

[P2K]

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Get the hell outta here with FG%. Are you kidding me.

Ray Ray's a career 44.6. Ivo's a 42.3. Give me a break. What is your criteria for a "good" shooter P2K? I'm very curious.

I gave my criteria already by giving examples of who is a shooter and who is a scorer. It's in a post above, go look.

And don't you think Allen's fg% is lower than expected because of his many attempts beyond the arch? And even with that, he's a way better shooter than AI. Way better is actually an understatement.

So you're telling me that after watching AI and Ray Allen all these years...you have them on the same tier as shooters? Or even have AI just a tier below Allen as a shooter?

If you say yes to both, then your whole arguments should be trashed and burned.

[Muzyk23]

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AI is a career 42% shooter. That's not great. I would definitely say he's a great scorer, but not a great shooter.

what's your point? he basically stated that Louis Williams is a better shooter than AI..are you f.. kidding me..and leave the numbers

[P2K]

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Well apparently you're not one of those nitwits, because you said "Iverson can't shoot." When asked to moderate the statement, you didn't. You went to the extreme, said that he flat out couldn't shoot and then you reenforced your opinion again after that. That's what you're backpedaling on. Now you're adjusting your statement to say "he's more of a scorer than a shooter". Had you come out like that in the first place, I don't think people would have disagreed with you, and you know it.

Funny that you're the only one that couldn't figure out that what I said was used to get my point across and NOT me actually saying that AI cannot shoot at all.

Everyone else figured it out. Why can't you?

I never adjusted my argument for anyone except you. Hoping that maybe you would finally get that I was using the extreme to get my point across and for some reason, it is not kicking in.

Everyone else figured it out. Why can't you?


You also think this has to do with people disagreeing with me. No, seems like they disagree because they think AI is a good shooter. Has nothing to do with what you think. Because they knew what was going on.

But...why can't you?

[Muzyk23]

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Well, that's not a part of the argument. Of course you overlooked it because you knew he was the entire offense. What you shouldn't have liked, though, was that he refused to play in a set offense and took too many bad shots.

People get on Kobe, but he takes way less bad shots than AI and that adds to him being a much better shooter.

oh, well Kobe shooting over three people is ok? right..but let's cut it..

P2K, everybody takes everything you say about AI with a pinch of salt, so don't sweat..

questioning four time scoring champion's scoring ability is pathetic..

you could've said that AI is not a great perimeter shooter.. which ,most of the time ,is true

[P2K]

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what's your point? he basically stated that Louis Williams is a better shooter than AI..are you f.. kidding me..and leave the numbers

He is, though.

He's doesn't kick his behind, but he is better. Slightly. And he's improving.

If it makes you feel any better, I put LeBron on the same tier as Iverson when it comes to shooting.

[Muzyk23]

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it's not about me..it's about you talking rubbish

I can't take you seriously, because you're exageratting all the time when it comes to AI

AI is not the best perimeter shooter .. everybody knows that

[P2K]

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oh, well Kobe shooting over three people is ok? right..but let's cut it..

I said less bad shots. I didn't say Kobe doesn't take bad shots at all.

P2K, everybody takes everything you say about AI with a pinch of salt, so don't sweat..

LMAO! Have you looked at your avatar and signature lately?

One more thing, glad to see you switched from a Sixer fan to a Nuggets fan :wink:

One good thing came out of that trade...it sprayed out all of the fake Sixer fans/AI fans out of the woodwork. The real fans remain. Now, I don't have to deal with some fool (not you) that is riding AI's jock in a debate where he tells me AI is no way at fault for anything.

questioning four time scoring champion's scoring ability is pathetic..

Who questioned AI's scoring ability?

Oops, that old feeling is coming back to me...

you could've said that AI is not a great perimeter shooter.. which most of the time is true

That's what I said this whole time. Duh.

[P2K]

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it's not about me..it's about you talking rubbish

I can't take you seriously, because you're exageratting all the time when it comes to AI

AI is not the best perimeter shooter .. everybody knows that

So why are you arguing with me if you already knew all of this?

[Bornindamecca]

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I never adjusted my argument for anyone except you. Hoping that maybe you would finally get that I was using the extreme to get my point across and for some reason, it is not kicking in.

This is my point. You took a part of his game that could be stronger, and blew it up to to make it more than it was, so you could take a shot at him. Then when you were accused of taking shots--which is what you were doing by exaggerating about his shooting--you didn't own up to taking shots. I've stated in just about every one of my responses that I understand that it is hyperbole, but once you repeat it over and over again, you're just looking for personal catharsis, as you were accused.

I don't know why you feel you need polemics to get your point across, when the point of him being more of a scorer than a shooter is well communicated without self serving sardonicisms. Why can't you get that?

No one at any point entreated you to say that AI was Mark Price, but for a for time scoring champion at the guard position, your exaggeration stretches the boundaries into inaccuracy. Caricature reveals character, not distorts it. As soon as your embellishment distorts the point, it is no longer effective as anything but an insult.

[Muzyk23]

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I said less bad shots. I didn't say Kobe doesn't take bad shots at all.





LMAO! Have you looked at your avatar and signature lately?

One more thing, glad to see you switched from a Sixer fan to a Nuggets fan :wink:

One good thing came out of that trade...it sprayed out all of the fake Sixer fans/AI fans out of the woodwork. The real fans remain. Now, I don't have to deal with some fool (not you) that is riding AI's jock in a debate where he tells me AI is no way at fault for anything.



Who questioned AI's scoring ability?

Oops, that old feeling is coming back to me...





That's what I said this whole time. Duh.

I'm not a team's fan P2K .. I'm a player's fan and that player is AI..it's simple as that

believe me if I knew how to do it I would change my avatar to AI one hehe

..I'm a real fan ..a real AI fan