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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #1

    What if...

    4. What if Suns owner Robert Sarver said, "Screw it, I'll pay the luxury tax every year?"

    Well, the following three things would have definitely and unquestionably happened: The Suns would have used the No. 7 pick on either Luol Deng or Andre Igoudala in 2004 (instead of unloading that pick to Chicago for $3 million and the No. 21 pick in 2005); they would have used the No. 21 pick on Rajon Rondo in 2006 (instead of selling it to Boston for cash and the No. 27 pick in 2007); and they wouldn't have traded Kurt Thomas to Seattle along with their No. 1s in 2008 and 2010. Some people would throw in the Joe Johnson deal here (Johnson to Atlanta for Boris Diaw and two No. 1s), but that wasn't a luxury tax move; they made an effort to re-sign Johnson and he wanted to leave.

    Just for the hell of it, let's give them Igoudala in that '04 draft because he's better than Deng, and they might have taken him anyway. And let's say they don't make the Shaq/Marion trade because they wouldn't have needed to dump Marcus Banks in the deal (they wouldn't have signed him if they had Rondo for one-fourth the price), and besides, they already have Kurt Thomas. Here's your 2008 Suns roster right now: Nash, Barbosa and Rondo as the guards; Igoudala, Hill and Bell at the swing spots; and Stoudemire, Marion, Diaw and Thomas up front ... as well as the rights to their No. 1 and Atlanta's No. 1 in this year's draft.

    That's not even a pipe dream or an imagine-if-this-scenario-had-played-out roster. Lemme put this in caps for you, S.A.S.-style: PEOPLE, THAT WOULD BE PHOENIX'S ROSTER IF SARVER PAID THE LUXURY TAX ALL ALONG!!!!! Can you imagine? Is that the greatest 10-man rotation of all-time? Would they have won 75 games? We'll never know. What's tragic about the Suns' current situation is how close they came to being positioned for the short term and long term better than any franchise since the '86 Celtics: They would have been the runaway favorites this season, and they would have been set for an abnormally long time because of their young guys.

    (Note to the Phoenix fans: You can now light yourselves on fire.)
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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #2
    Re: What if...

    Who needs that hypothetical when you've got the Big Cactus!
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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #3
      Re: What if...

      Worst ownership in the league. Word to Memphis, you don't have **** on Phoenix.

      New York goes without mention, they're not even a real organization at this point. More like a traveling circus. A crummy, second rate circus.

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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #4
        Re: What if...

        I've got a better question.

        What if the Pistons would have taken Melo or Wade *heck even Bosh*?
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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #5
          Re: What if...

          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
          I've got a better question.

          What if the Pistons would have taken Melo or Wade *heck even Bosh*?
          Yes but that's different than the spirit of this topic. Teams picking the wrong player in hindsight is vastly different than a team purposely unloading high draft picks/contracts because the owner is a cheap skate.

          The Suns should have drafted at their position in picking, but since they didn't want to pay lottery money to a player, they decide to unload the pick for a late first round and a couple dollars.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #6
            Re: What if...

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            Yes but that's different than the spirit of this topic. Teams picking the wrong player in hindsight is vastly different than a team purposely unloading high draft picks/contracts because the owner is a cheap skate.

            The Suns should have drafted at their position in picking, but since they didn't want to pay lottery money to a player, they decide to unload the pick for a late first round and a couple dollars.
            Which is why I blame the owner for the condition the ball club is in right now.
            I dont' see how he figured they could keep winning while giving everything away just to save a buck.

            No other team in the league probably hasn't had that kind of leverage that was already a contendor. You don't just trash draft picks like that when your team heavily relies on an over 30 pg to make it go.

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            • Psyblast
              2023 National Champions
              • Jun 2003
              • 42584

              #7
              Re: What if...

              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
              I've got a better question.

              What if the Pistons would have taken Melo or Wade *heck even Bosh*?


              Before I even saw this reply, I was going to come into this thread and say, "I hate the what if game, it always brings up the question 'What if the Pistons had taken Wade/Melo/Bosh instead of Darko?'"

              **** the what if game.

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              • Muzyk23
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 4192

                #8
                Re: What if...

                what if the sixers chose Marbury in 96 and AI went to Minnesota to play with KG
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                • str8stuntin03
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 446

                  #9
                  Re: What if...

                  what if the bulls never traded away Elton Brand, Ron Artest and Brad Miller?
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                  • tehova
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3694

                    #10
                    Re: What if...

                    As a Grizzlies fan this is so not cool, we deserved lebron.
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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #11
                      Re: What if...

                      Originally posted by Muzyk23
                      what if the sixers chose Marbury in 96 and AI went to Minnesota to play with KG
                      Originally posted by str8stuntin03
                      what if the bulls never traded away Elton Brand, Ron Artest and Brad Miller?
                      I think some people are missing the point of the article.

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                      • Jump Off
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 38

                        #12
                        Re: What if...

                        What if the clippers never got rid of Lamar Odom, Darius Miles, Q-Rich, and Matt Barnes?
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                        • P2K
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 8845

                          #13
                          Re: What if...

                          Originally posted by Muzyk23
                          what if the sixers chose Marbury in 96 and AI went to Minnesota to play with KG
                          A seriously big "if" since there was no way the Sixers weren't going to pick Iverson.

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                          • str8stuntin03
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 446

                            #14
                            Re: What if...

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            I think some people are missing the point of the article.
                            im jus pointing out my "what if" question if I had to do the article. I hate trading away those two as a Bulls Fan.
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                            • Muzyk23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 4192

                              #15
                              Re: What if...

                              Originally posted by P2K
                              A seriously big "if" since there was no way the Sixers weren't going to pick Iverson.
                              yes, of course, but at some point they were considering Marbury as a possibility
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