Mavs PF Dirk Nowitzki: "We All Know Avery Ran A Little Dictatorship Here"

[ZB9]

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Yes Dirk averaged 5-6 more point than David West and grabbed 3-4 more rebounds than David West but at the end of that series David West had 4 wins and Dirk had 1 AND on top of that D-West punked Dirk. It will be tough to name another superstar that would do the same thing Dirk did during that situation with D-West.

LMAO your right. Dirk should have flipped a coin and told West to "call it friendo"...if West called wrong, Dirk should have shot him in the face with a supressed shotgun. He should have then had JJ Barea and Devean George help him cut West's body up with Barea's mom's kitchen knife and then bury the various pieces in a 9th ward swamp.

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I think Pop doesn't do that because his players are older and more experienced than the Rockets and Mavs. He doesn't have to be as controlling as Van Gundy and Avery because the players on the Spurs have played in more big games than the Rockets and Mavs.

I could be wrong but Pop was controlling with Tony Parker when he first got to the league.

Come on man, Pop let his guys have liberty period. He was on TP early, but that's because he had to show him how to run the team, he is afterall the PG.

Pop doesn't have to call a play every single time down the floor. When TD went down hurt a couple of years ago, he let them run, uptempo and they stayed right in the thick of the west.

A guy like Avery doesn't get that. He has to be the one calling ALL of the shots, and eventually guys like him wear down on players. Say what you will, but im certain there were players that didnt want to go to HOU because VG was there, trading for guys then benching them because he couldn't get it through his thick skull that you have to adjust to your players and use their strengths in your gameplan.

[Knowshon24]

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I just don't think Avery got through to the players, especially Dirk

[vaballer34]

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Come on man, Pop let his guys have liberty period. He was on TP early, but that's because he had to show him how to run the team, he is afterall the PG.

Pop doesn't have to call a play every single time down the floor. When TD went down hurt a couple of years ago, he let them run, uptempo and they stayed right in the thick of the west.

A guy like Avery doesn't get that. He has to be the one calling ALL of the shots, and eventually guys like him wear down on players. Say what you will, but im certain there were players that didnt want to go to HOU because VG was there, trading for guys then benching them because he couldn't get it through his thick skull that you have to adjust to your players and use their strengths in your gameplan.

I agree with you about Pop giving his players the freedom to call the sets themselves but I think one of the main reasons why he does that is because he has a roster full of veterans and they ALL have that one goal of winning a ring. With them being vets and having that one goal Pop knows they won't take advantage of the freedom he gives them.

I think Avery and Van Gundy doesn't give that freedom because maybe they feel their players haven't earned that freedom. When Van Gundy was in NY he gave the players freedom because they were a veteran squad.

I think ANY type of player can play for Pop because of his personality and coaching style but it takes a CERTAIN type of player to play for Avery and Van Gundy and thats not a good look for Avery or Van Gundy.

[J.R. Locke]

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Yes Dirk averaged 5-6 more point than David West and grabbed 3-4 more rebounds than David West but at the end of that series David West had 4 wins and Dirk had 1 AND on top of that D-West punked Dirk. It will be tough to name another superstar that would do the same thing Dirk did during that situation with D-West.

Chris Paul > Jason Kidd = 4 wins

[SteelersFreak]

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Yes Dirk averaged 5-6 more point than David West and grabbed 3-4 more rebounds than David West but at the end of that series David West had 4 wins and Dirk had 1 AND on top of that D-West punked Dirk. It will be tough to name another superstar that would do the same thing Dirk did during that situation with D-West.

I thought this bull**** was over with a long time ago. Dirk made the smart move, imagine if he swings at D-West and gets ejected and probably suspended for at least a game, if not the rest of the series. If anything, it was D-West that got punked by Dirk. Dirk showed maturity and composure by not retaliating to West's bull**** tough-guy attitude.

[AlexBrady]

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Yes Dirk averaged 5-6 more point than David West and grabbed 3-4 more rebounds than David West but at the end of that series David West had 4 wins and Dirk had 1 AND on top of that D-West punked Dirk. It will be tough to name another superstar that would do the same thing Dirk did during that situation with D-West.

Please, David West won that series because Chris Paul "punked" Jason Kidd. Chris made Jason look very old throughout that series and he was pretty much the main reason why the Mavs lost so badly. What would you want Dirk to do in that situation?

[AlexBrady]

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I thought this bull**** was over with a long time ago. Dirk made the smart move, imagine if he swings at D-West and gets ejected and probably suspended for at least a game, if not the rest of the series. If anything, it was D-West that got punked by Dirk. Dirk showed maturity and composure by not retaliating to West's bull**** tough-guy attitude.

Yes, finally someone with some common sense. Dirk doesn't have to put him in a chokehold to establish his reputation. He lets his game do the talking. In this case, Dirk's game "punked" David West.

[vaballer34]

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I thought this bull**** was over with a long time ago. Dirk made the smart move, imagine if he swings at D-West and gets ejected and probably suspended for at least a game, if not the rest of the series. If anything, it was D-West that got punked by Dirk. Dirk showed maturity and composure by not retaliating to West's bull**** tough-guy attitude.

I'm not saying Dirk should of punched D-West in the face or put him in a choke hold. I said earlier Dirk should of at least smacked D-West's hands down.

Dirk is the star of the Mavs and 2nd best player of that series behind CP3. CP3 let it be known early and throughout the series that nobody could check him, his team would play hard, and his team would be tough. CP3 got in Stackhouse and Dampier's face after some hard fouls during that series and his team fed off that toughness and energy...thats what a superstar is suppose to do. What does Dirk do when he gets the chance to show he isn't a punk and his team will show some fight?...nothing. His team couldn't feed off his toughness and energy.

With the talent Dallas had during the playoffs there is no way that series should of ended 4-1. But with the way CP3 established toughness and fight for his team and how Dirk did not do that I'm not surprised at the results.

[vaballer34]

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I just don't think Avery got through to the players, especially Dirk

Back on topic.......

I'm gonna have to disagree about Avery not getting through to Dirk because Dirk became a better rebounder and defender under Avery. He also won MVP under Avery.

[ZB9]

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Dirk is a 7 foot SG. Dirk is soft and everyone saw it last year in the playoffs when David West got in Dirk's face and tapped his face. Dirk was softer before Avery got there. Dirk's all around game got better when Avery was there...he rebounded better and played a lil bit better defense.

Before Avery got there Dallas needed that extra toughness to get them over that hump and into the Finals. So what happens when Avery get his first full season as the head coach in Dallas and brings the toughness they need...they get to the Finals. I don't know what Dirk is complaining about but Avery Johnson brought that toughness that Dallas needed. With Avery Johnson gone and Dirk still being as soft as he is Dallas will not make a run through the playoffs like they did in Avery's first full season.

LMAO at Toughie McTougherson

I doubt you know what the **** soft means

[ZB9]

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I'm not saying Dirk should of punched D-West in the face or put him in a choke hold. I said earlier Dirk should of at least smacked D-West's hands down.

Dirk is the star of the Mavs and 2nd best player of that series behind CP3. CP3 let it be known early and throughout the series that nobody could check him, his team would play hard, and his team would be tough. CP3 got in Stackhouse and Dampier's face after some hard fouls during that series and his team fed off that toughness and energy...thats what a superstar is suppose to do. What does Dirk do when he gets the chance to show he isn't a punk and his team will show some fight?...nothing. His team couldn't feed off his toughness and energy.

With the talent Dallas had during the playoffs there is no way that series should of ended 4-1. But with the way CP3 established toughness and fight for his team and how Dirk did not do that I'm not surprised at the results.

nevermind the fact that he came back early and was playing on a seriously ****ed up ankle

what a joke

[OSUFan_88]

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Well, we've already had a Kobe is selfish thread.

Now we have a Dirk is soft thread.

You know it's NBA season in the OS Forums, where anything goes.

[SteelersFreak]

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Well, we've already had a Kobe is selfish thread.

Now we have a Dirk is soft thread.

You know it's NBA season in the OS Forums, where anything goes.

We've had about 5,000 Dirk is soft threads.

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This isnt about Dirk's softness its supposed to be about the coach.

Since guys cant stay on topic, locked