Eddie Jordan Done in DC

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Ok, before some of you start throwing Ernie Grunfeld under the bus, remember that if it wasn't for him, Micheal Jordan would still be drafting high schoolers with his 1st round pick either.

The Hawks and Knicks games were just showing what has been a problem since he's pretty much been there which is closing out games.

The "Arenas is Hurt" excuse carried no weight the day Caron and Jamison carried this team to the playoffs.

And to say resigning Jamison was a bad move is crazy talk because without him, they would very easily be the only winless team in the league right now.

[SkinsBoYee]

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I think any true Wiz fan can tell you Ernie was a big part of the turnaround, but Eddie was by far a bigger part, getting this team to play his style of basketball. Its the same style that Byron Scott is using down in New Orleans.

Problem is, you need the players to do it. Ernie has rectified the horrible decision making that was here prior to him. But, he is accountable for the horridness that is our bench right now. I give Ernie credit with bringing Jamison, Butler and Gilbert, plus Young and McGee…they will contribute, and the big 3 are the reason for the slight turnaround of the franchise. But look at the state of the Wiz. Obviously, missing 25 pts from Gil a night is hurting us. And he needs to quit with the Rock Star attitude when he has accomplished nothing and is sitting back on a guaranteed 113 million dollar contract that we have seen zip for in the last 2 years. But we have strapped ourselves to have next to nothing in the ability to help our roster in the now or the future.

OUR BENCH IS HORRID. I MEAN HORRID. Dee Brown is not a starting PG nor a bench player. That was why he playing over seas. McQuire is ok, but not NBA starting material. Pecherov is not NBA worthy. Etan, though I love his fire…is a tweener, not a PF and not a Center. Blatche is still young, but has not matured in a solid player you can count on each and every night.

Daniels and Stephenson are horrid so far this year. HORRID!

You couple this with locking into some of these guys for the long term, with big money spent on the big three…we have no maneuverability. We can’t go after a solid PG like a Jamal Tinsley. We can go after a solid inside guy like a McDyesse that would vastly improve our down low game or interior defense that is killing us. I am afraid the window has shut on this group of cats. After Gil returns, if there is not remarkable improvement, it is time to start tearing this version of the Wiz down.

Your keepers are

Jamison
Butler
Young
McGee
Blatch
Haywood.

You keep all your Bigs, (though isn’t Haywood a Free Agent next year?) and Jamison and Butler.

You can deal either Gil (if he can not ever be the Gil we know) for some pieces or keep him. Everyone else I feel Ernie has to start taking a look at what he can do with them. From stock pilling some picks, to just getting some new faces in here. THAT CAN PLAY DEFENSE!

Was it Eddie's fault? I don't buy it. I know someone has to take the fall...but the Wiz just let go of the one thing they had going for them. A solid coach.

[mvb34]

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Horrible news!

The team has all of its players hurt…a season loss of Haywood…your sole lone inside presence gone is a huge problem that can’t be under estimated. Your most valuable player has been hurt the last 3 season. And you have been the sole reason for at least the last two years of getting this team to play hard and get into the playoffs.

Your GM has shipped off Mason, who looks to be a star blooming in San Antonio. Your GM has signed Stephenson, Etan and Daniels to long term contracts that all look to be degrading in talent and potential. And if Arenas is not ever going to be himself again, and couple that to an aging Jamison…Ernie just locked us into possible years of toil just like the Knicks…but even worse…since we can’t beat them when they suit up 7 bench players.

Ernie has to be held accountable.

The good fortune of the Wiz is over….we are looking at a very long run of horribleness. Firing Eddie was simply the wrong thing to do. I am very disappointed.

Mason left via free agency. So would you rather the Wiz wait until they were 1-15 to fire Eddie?

[Checmate101]

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Guess my email worked..I never did like eddie, his rotations were horrible, didn't know when to take people out and put people in. The Wizards needed a harder coach in there. What kinda NBA team run college style plays.

[JBH3]

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Ok, before some of you start throwing Ernie Grunfeld under the bus, remember that if it wasn't for him, Micheal Jordan would still be drafting high schoolers with his 1st round pick either.

The Hawks and Knicks games were just showing what has been a problem since he's pretty much been there which is closing out games.

The "Arenas is Hurt" excuse carried no weight the day Caron and Jamison carried this team to the playoffs.

And to say resigning Jamison was a bad move is crazy talk because without him, they would very easily be the only winless team in the league right now.

Arenas is hurt is a VALID excuse when a key cog to their success last season was the solid play by their Center Brendan Haywood. Without him you are relying on a rookie, and a vet who sat out last yr w/ a heart condition.

If they had not had so many injuries to start the year they defnitely would not be the worst team in the NBA.

You can't fire the coach because a star and key role players are injured.

Mason left via free agency. So would you rather the Wiz wait until they were 1-15 to fire Eddie?

I think after all Eddie Jordan has done, and given the enormous amount of injuries to his team, he deserves a down year and a chance to recuperate.

If next year, w/ a healthy squad, the team squandered then AND ONLY THEN should be fired.

[mvb34]

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Arenas is hurt is a VALID excuse when a key cog to their success last season was the solid play by their Center Brendan Haywood. Without him you are relying on a rookie, and a vet who sat out last yr w/ a heart condition.

If they had not had so many injuries to start the year they defnitely would not be the worst team in the NBA.

You can't fire the coach because a star and key role players are injured.



I think after all Eddie Jordan has done, and given the enormous amount of injuries to his team, he deserves a down year and a chance to recuperate.

If next year, w/ a healthy squad, the team squandered then AND ONLY THEN should be fired.

You can when your team comes out flat against 7 player Knick team or getting unhustled by Atlanta team without Horford and Smith..

[ProfessaPackMan]

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1. Gil is not going anywhere no time soon, so you might as well drop that.

2. Again, the "We're missing Gil" holds no weight considering the fact that ya'll have been playing without him for almost 2 seasons and yall knew from the get go that he was going to be out(Hence majority of people saying "We'll be alright, we still have Butler and Jamison")

I'll be back with more later.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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After what Eddie Jordan has done? LOL

I mean sure he helped NBA basketball here relevent again with his exciting regular season play, but other than that he ain't accomplished nothing here.

A lot of folks around here saw this coming a mile away and when he blew the Hawks game after having a 5 pt lead with less than a minute to go and losing to a team that only had like 7 players suited up, it was only a matter of when he would be gone.

[JBH3]

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You can when your team comes out flat against 7 player Knick team or getting unhustled by Atlanta team without Horford and Smith..

Atlanta w/o Horford or Smith still has a deeper team than Washington...Last time I checked it's not Eddie Jordan's job to secure enough depth off the bench...Dee Brown, Dominic McGuire, these guys can't get it done.

With injuries to Daniels, Arenas, Haywood, and Etan Thomas still trying to get on track I don't see how Eddie can be solely to blame here.

1. Gil is not going anywhere no time soon, so you might as well drop that.

2. Again, the "We're missing Gil" holds no weight considering the fact that ya'll have been playing without him for almost 2 seasons and yall knew from the get go that he was going to be out(Hence majority of people saying "We'll be alright, we still have Butler and Jamison")

I'll be back with more later.

Wide-eyed optimism...and I don't think anyone really knew the effect Haywood's absence would have on this team.

[Fiasco West]

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It may be a good move. Although Haywood and Arenas are out...Butler and Jamison are still playing and still some other guys...1-10 is pretty bad looking at the roster they have.

[mvb34]

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Atlanta w/o Horford or Smith still has a deeper team than Washington...Last time I checked it's not Eddie Jordan's job to secure enough depth off the bench...Dee Brown, Dominic McGuire, these guys can't get it done.

With injuries to Daniels, Arenas, Haywood, and Etan Thomas still trying to get on track I don't see how Eddie can be solely to blame here.



Wide-eyed optimism...and I don't think anyone really knew the effect Haywood's absence would have on this team.

I will ask you this question I ask earlier how long Ernie is suppose to let this keep going when they are 1-15, 1-20? How many times can a coach keep getting outcoached in the 4th qtr?

[Checmate101]

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It may be a good move. Although Haywood and Arenas are out...Butler and Jamison are still playing and still some other guys...1-10 is pretty bad looking at the roster they have.

That's what I'm saying...noway this team should be 1-10, no way, not with 2 all-stars on the team. I just think they need a different voice in the locker room, something new.

[JBH3]

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After what Eddie Jordan has done? LOL

I mean sure he helped NBA basketball here relevent again with his exciting regular season play, but other than that he ain't accomplished nothing here.

A lot of folks around here saw this coming a mile away and when he blew the Hawks game after having a 5 pt lead with less than a minute to go and losing to a team that only had like 7 players suited up, it was only a matter of when he would be gone.

You can blame that game on the poor play and shooting of Juan Dixon and Nick Young down the stretch, and the simple fact that they were out rebounded by +18...again...I don't think anyone realized the impact Haywood would have on this team.

Its Ernie's job to bring in the talent needed to win...When Haywood went down they didn't do anything.

Their contingecy plan was/is a rookie in Javale McGee, and an undersized center who hasn't played in a year in Etan Thomas. Niether has really panned out yet.

Sure Javale brings some energy, but he makes rookie mistake after rookie mistake...Energy doesn't translate to a stat in the boxscores.

Ernie lets Mason go, and signs journey man Juan Dixon who is more or less a novelty act given his Maryland career and DOES NOT fill the void that Mason left...look at what he's done in SAN ANT.

Then you add Antonio Daniels being out, the only other 'real' PG you have...whos fault is that...Ernie's.

With Daniels out and Arenas you mean to tell me that Dee Brown or Juan Dixon are going to get it done????

I just don't see how Eddie being fired is justified.

Let me ask this question...Now that Eddie HAS been fired are they going to be any better???

Probably not.

This was an irrational move by Ernie Grunfeld to try and save his a$$, or shift the blame from the team performing poorly from him to Eddie Jordan.

Eddie is the fallguy, scapegoat, whatever you want to call it.

[JBH3]

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I will ask you this question I ask earlier how long were Ernie is was suppose let this keep going when they are 1-15, 1-20?

He should take some blame in this, and NOT fire eddie.

You've got Haywood out, Arenas out, Daniels out...And Eddie is supposed to rely on McGee, McGuire, Dee Brown, Etan Thomas who has been out a yr, and novelty act in Juan Dixon...

Please.

This team is only Butler and Jamison...Yea there two all-stars but they can't get it done w/ the supporting cast Ernie Grunfeld has provided or that is left after key injuries.

They just can't....

This formula was proven NOT to work after Philly tried putting 4 stiffs around Allen Iverson.

[Cebby]

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Eddie is part of the 70% or so of coaches who aren't clearly horrible or good.

With better players, he could be better, but he's not getting better players. The fact is, you go 1-10 with losses to the Bucks, Knicks, Nets, and so on, you're getting fired.

Playing Stevenson more than Nick Young is inexcusable.

Find some coach out there who can figure out that the starting lineup should include Young, Butler, Jamison, and McGee. I could do that.