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  • ryanm1058123
    Banned
    • Jan 2004
    • 3628

    #16
    Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

    The first thing the coach needs to do is tell Jose to be more aggressive. Or else they will still be the same exact team that they are now. He is the key to that team. He needs to get people easy shots. Right now he does not. It's all jumpshots.

    edit: Colangelo is one of the most overrated GMs in the league. He was brought into a great cap situation and his team has NO vision at all. What the heck are they supposed to be? We still don't know

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    • Vince
      Bow for Bau
      • Aug 2002
      • 26017

      #17
      Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

      Originally posted by ryanm1058123
      The first thing the coach needs to do is tell Jose to be more aggressive. Or else they will still be the same exact team that they are now. He is the key to that team. He needs to get people easy shots. Right now he does not. It's all jumpshots.

      edit: Colangelo is one of the most overrated GMs in the league. He was brought into a great cap situation and his team has NO vision at all. What the heck are they supposed to be? We still don't know
      He was overrated with Phoenix. Hellz no.

      With the Raptors, I won't use overrated, but it's been hit or miss on a lot of his moves. We shall see. He needs to bring in a legit 2 or 3. Moon sucks and Parker is old.
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      • yucatan
        Rookie
        • Jan 2005
        • 377

        #18
        Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

        Originally posted by AlexBrady
        To be honest, your whole team is a sieve. Bosh is a terrible post defender, and Bargnani and Kapono may be the two worst defenders in the association. Your only above average defenders are Moon and Parker.

        I bet Raptors fans hate me.
        Please watch the games and refrain from commenting on something without actually observing it, especially if you're merely parroting something that you read in the Sports Illustrated season preview issue or something.

        "[Y]our whole team is sieve" - Very accurate statement, for the most part no dispute there.

        "Bosh is a horrible post defender" - partially accurate, his on the ball post defense definitely leaves something to be desired, but he's a pretty good help defender.

        "Bargnani and Kapono may be the two worst defenders in the association." - Bargnani is not a horrible defender anymore. He was definitely lost last season, but his post defense this season has been above average, solid at worst. Re: Kapono, completely agree.

        "Your only above average defenders are Moon and Parker." - This is a completely inaccurate statement. Parker has lost a step and is getting exposed every game. Moon has been atrocious this year, just floating around and relying on athleticism to go for spectacular blocks, in the process, biting on every pumpfake and rebounding at the rate of a PG.

        I definitely know you haven't watched a Raptors game this season because you didn't even mention Calderon. Calderon is probably the worst defender in the league this season. Opposing PGs are beating him off the dribble at will and is probably the single biggest reason why the Raptors have such a poor record this season.

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #19
          Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

          Sam is a good guy but a terrible Xs and Os coach. The guy is very one dimensional with his gameplanning and teams know exactly how to attack and defend against this team. I respect Sam as a person but as a coach he was almost as bad as Lenny Wilkens was in terms of preparing and getting the team to play a good brand of basketball.

          Jay Triano is a pretty good coach IMO. He'll be the first ever Canadian to coach an NBA team but that's not the only reason why I like the guy. He's had tons of international experience as both a player and a coach and with this hodge podge of international talent and international style of play I think he can get more out of this team. I know for damn sure he'll put an emphasis on defense.

          I have a feeling though that BC will go for someone he knows and trusts a bit more. Too bad the timing is so off that we couldn't get D'antoni.
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          • AlexBrady
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 3341

            #20
            Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

            I didn't mention Calderon because another poster already mentioned him. I was naming the Raptors' other poor defenders.

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            • muzion
              Pro
              • Oct 2002
              • 718

              #21
              Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

              Originally posted by AlexBrady
              To be honest, your whole team is a sieve. Bosh is a terrible post defender, and Bargnani and Kapono may be the two worst defenders in the association. Your only above average defenders are Moon and Parker.

              I bet Raptors fans hate me.
              you obviously do not know what you're talking about.

              Bargnani often times this year has been a VERY GOOD defender in the post and on the perimeter. It just doesn't make sense for us to ask him to guard premier SFs such Carmelo and expect good results. He's even gotten much better at rotating and he's blocked 1.6 shots per game playing 28 on average. He's been a great surprise on that end.

              Parker has lost a step, Moon is not that good one-on-one and Kapono is Kapono. There's so much penetration it puts a huge burden on our bigs.

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              • J.R. Locke
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 4137

                #22
                Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                Mitchell will find a new job sometime in the next few years. Too classy of a guy not too. Minnesota anyone?

                I like the way Bargani defends. He is far more effective defending in the post than I ever thought he would be.

                Moon is a disaster. The is always a reason guys like him don't make it in the league.

                Parker is old...lot of miles on those legs.

                Calderon....needs to go to the Steve Nash school of defense. Keep players in front of you!

                Anyway I would shake the Raptors roster up. Try to get a guy who can score on the wing (maybe Stephon marbury as a SG). I thought the Raptors would be a lot better.

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #23
                  Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                  More proof that the Canadian sports media has no clue about basketball. I'm listening to Roger Lajoie on the FAN last night and he kept going on about how the Raptors are going to get Avery Johnson.....

                  Yeah, like we need a slightly better version Smitch. At least a caller mentioned Tom Thibidieu (sp) the assistant from Boston who i'd love to see this team hire or maybe someone like Flip Saunders. We just need someone who's more of an Xs and Os guy to coach this team IMO.
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                  • Mason81Ballin!!!
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 840

                    #24
                    Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                    I'd say give Jay Triano(SP?) a chance hes been with the team forever and seems like a much better X's and O's guy then Sam and right now I don't know of any big name coachs on the market.

                    I personally liked Sam Mitchell but I guess thats just me

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                    • Muzyk23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4192

                      #25
                      Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                      Firing a guy in his second year of a 4 year deal when his team, 41-41 last season, goes 8-9 with never healthy JO. Just laughable. They weren't going to win anything anyway.

                      I hate that in today's NBA coaches are under more pressure than the players. So, basically one player turns his back on a coach, the rest follows and the coach is done. That's how it works nowadays. Just disgusting.
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #26
                        Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                        Originally posted by Muzyk23
                        Firing a guy in his second year of a 4 year deal when his team, 41-41 last season, goes 8-9 with never healthy JO. Just laughable. They weren't going to win anything anyway.
                        There were/are HUGE expectations for this team this year. The mantra this year is "win a round in the playoffs or bust". Mitchell's days were numbered as early as last year as there was a lot of griping about how the team was under achieving under Mitchell's coaching. The only reason why he was resigned was because of the breakout season a couple years ago. You can't go around firing the coach of the year.
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                        • Vince
                          Bow for Bau
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26017

                          #27
                          Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                          Originally posted by Muzyk23
                          Firing a guy in his second year of a 4 year deal when his team, 41-41 last season, goes 8-9 with never healthy JO. Just laughable. They weren't going to win anything anyway.

                          I hate that in today's NBA coaches are under more pressure than the players. So, basically one player turns his back on a coach, the rest follows and the coach is done. That's how it works nowadays. Just disgusting.
                          With all due respect, if you follow this team you wouldn't be saying this.
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                          • Muzyk23
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4192

                            #28
                            Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                            Originally posted by Vince
                            With all due respect, if you follow this team you wouldn't be saying this.
                            You're probably right Vince and I know that there were high expectations before the season, but these are my feelings based on what I've read or seen.

                            Everybody was calling for his head last year, even on these boards, I know that and remember that, but don't you think the expectations were too high?
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                            • Muzyk23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 4192

                              #29
                              Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                              Originally posted by Vince
                              With all due respect, if you follow this team you wouldn't be saying this.
                              The second part of my post was just a generalization. It didn't concern Raptors.
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                              • Vince
                                Bow for Bau
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 26017

                                #30
                                Re: Sam Mitchell Fired

                                Originally posted by Muzyk23
                                You're probably right Vince and I know that there were high expectations before the season, but these are my feelings based on what I've read or seen.

                                Everybody was calling for his head last year, even on these boards, I know that and remember that, but don't you think the expectations were too high?
                                No.

                                BC's quote after our 47 win season, Atlantic Divison title.

                                "Taste bitterness, don't taste sweetness from the success of a 47-win season," Colangelo said. "That's not good enough. It's never good enough."
                                This team has gotten worse. We score less, Bargnani regressed from his rookie to sophomore season (He's been good this year). No one is saying we should be top 3 in the East, but good lord, the same problems we've had for 4-5 seasons keep reoccurring. Awful perimeter D, no offensive sets, team plays at a snails pace.
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