76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

[HMcCoy]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

They played the exact same style last year under Cheeks. This year they had to adjust to a new player coming in and Louis Williams shooting 30% for 2 months. Cheeks did not deserve to be fired. He got fired out because paying 80 mil for a player and starting off slow isn't going to fly for GM's and owners.

They did the same thing last year, started slow then turned it on. I knew it was going to happen with or without Mo.

I dunno, man...Everything I've seen regarding the 76'ers problems revolved around being stuck between being an uptempo squad vs. becoming more of a half court offense with Brand. I haven't seen them all that much tho...just a few games. I could be wrong, but their record kinda proves that was a bad situation. The 6'ers are back to running at every opportunity, and its working for them.

If Louis Williams alone was the problem, then Cheeks REALLY should have been fired, lol...bench him, problem solved.

[PrettyT11]

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Yes but lets not forget the main reason why they are back to running all of the time. It cause Brand is on the sideline in a suit. He was a bad fit and signing for this team from the get go. It's no surprise they are playing alot better ball with out of the lineup than with him in it.

[P2K]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

Yes but lets not forget the main reason why they are back to running all of the time. It cause Brand is on the sideline in a suit. He was a bad fit and signing for this team from the get go. It's no surprise they are playing alot better ball with out of the lineup than with him in it.

False. They defense was better with Brand in there and Brand is very good with outlet passes, something that would work great with a fast break team.

[PrettyT11]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

False. They defense was better with Brand in there and Brand is very good with outlet passes, something that would work great with a fast break team.

What does his defense have to do with anything?? When Brand was in the lineup they weren't running as much as last season or right now. He was slowing them down and they were struggling trying to find a way to get him in the offense.

[HMcCoy]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

What does his defense have to do with anything?? When Brand was in the lineup they weren't running as much as last season or right now. He was slowing them down and they were struggling trying to find a way to get him in the offense.

Turnovers = Fastbreaks

I agree tho...I think Mo was trying too hard to make Brand a co-centerpiece with Iggy, and those guys aren't really compatible players as far as style.

[PrettyT11]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

Turnovers = Fastbreaks

I agree tho...I think Mo was trying too hard to make Brand a co-centerpiece with Iggy, and those guys aren't really compatible players as far as style.

Yeah I know turnovers equal fastbreaks but lets not fool ourselfs here. Brand wasn't creating turnovers. He was outhere looking like a shell of his former self. his steals, blocks, and points were at career lows.

You did hit it on the head though about them no being able to work that well together. Iggy plays alot better at the SF. But with Brand in they have to put him at SG. He just isn't comfortable playing the 2.

[HMcCoy]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

Yeah I know turnovers equal fastbreaks but lets not fool ourselfs here. Brand wasn't creating turnovers. He was outhere looking like a shell of his former self. his steals, blocks, and points were at career lows.

You did hit it on the head though about them no being able to work that well together. Iggy plays alot better at the SF. But with Brand in they have to put him at SG. He just isn't comfortable playing the 2.

My fault...I missed the "his" in

"What does his defense have to do with anything??

[J.R. Locke]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

All I will say is Andre Miller was the point guard of the Denver Nuggets. His teams always wanted to play fast break basketball. It doesn't happen every game.

So you fire a coach because he has bad rotations after you bring in a player (Elton Brand) who is taking over a position that was occupied by either Thaddeus Young, Rodney Carney or Reggie Evans in the starting lineup when they were winning last year.

How are you supposed to know what the rotations should be without half a year to figure it out? Elton Brand is a far different player than any of those guys they had at PF last year. He has a high post game and the floor spacing of that almost negates Thaddeus Youngs mid range game and is not a true three point shooter yet.

As far as Mo not playing the young guys last year? Wasn't Shavlic Randolph and Jason Smith starting? Wasn't Carney and Young at least in the rotation by January?

I liked Mo so I am completely biased but it is not like this Philly team was super talented, nor are they now. So what did you expect to be the beast of the east? Anybody who watched Elton Brand play knows that wasn't going to happen.

What would you guys think about a Chris Kaman for Sam Dalembert trade?

[P2K]

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Turnovers = Fastbreaks

I agree tho...I think Mo was trying too hard to make Brand a co-centerpiece with Iggy, and those guys aren't really compatible players as far as style.

Mo was indeed trying too hard when he should've stuck to the plan that the organization wanted. Mo went away from the fastbreak. Instead, they were more half court, which isn't going to work with this team that can't shoot. But they are going to need that half court play in the playoffs, if they make it. And let's be real...Iguodala and Louis Williams SUCKED from November 'til December. SUCKED.

[P2K]

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Yeah I know turnovers equal fastbreaks but lets not fool ourselfs here. Brand wasn't creating turnovers. He was outhere looking like a shell of his former self. his steals, blocks, and points were at career lows.

You did hit it on the head though about them no being able to work that well together. Iggy plays alot better at the SF. But with Brand in they have to put him at SG. He just isn't comfortable playing the 2.

Brand wasn't creating turnovers? Yet since he's been out, the team has been giving up more points per game? You're seeing what you want to see. Brand was fine. I know people want to make him into C-Webb Pt. II. That's not the case here. He's their best defender.

Maybe since Iguodala and Williams got their heads out of their asses, when Brand comes back and has to pass out of the post, they will make a shot for once.

[P2K]

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All I will say is Andre Miller was the point guard of the Denver Nuggets. His teams always wanted to play fast break basketball. It doesn't happen every game.

So you fire a coach because he has bad rotations after you bring in a player (Elton Brand) who is taking over a position that was occupied by either Thaddeus Young, Rodney Carney or Reggie Evans in the starting lineup when they were winning last year.

Mo has had bad rotations since the moment he took over as coach. This is a new deal. It's been a problem with him since day one.

How are you supposed to know what the rotations should be without half a year to figure it out? Elton Brand is a far different player than any of those guys they had at PF last year. He has a high post game and the floor spacing of that almost negates Thaddeus Youngs mid range game and is not a true three point shooter yet.

A good coach would know how to do it. It wasn't a problem with Doc Rivers last year.

As far as Mo not playing the young guys last year? Wasn't Shavlic Randolph and Jason Smith starting? Wasn't Carney and Young at least in the rotation by January?

Shav was never a starter here. Jason Smith wasn't a starter, either. Carney and Young got in by January because Stefanski took over in December and asked Mo to play the young guys. He traded Kyle Korver in order to make sure it got done.

I liked Mo so I am completely biased but it is not like this Philly team was super talented, nor are they now. So what did you expect to be the beast of the east? Anybody who watched Elton Brand play knows that wasn't going to happen.

Nobody here expected the Sixers to be great. But at least be consistently like 5th in the East maybe. That's not a beast.

You're really showing that you are an outsider looking in and have no idea of what you are talking about.

What would you guys think about a Chris Kaman for Sam Dalembert trade?

Why do you want Dalembert? Have you watched him play? The dude's BB IQ is -25.

[Muzyk23]

Re: 76ers fired Maurice Cheeks

Louis Williams aka the next AI sucked ? nooooooooooooooo

[P2K]

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Louis Williams aka the next AI sucked ? nooooooooooooooo

1. Nobody said Louis Williams is the next AI.

2. How are your Pistons doing recently?

You get an F. Now go back in your foxhole and look for which team you will root for next season. Sixers threads are better w/out the bandwagon AI fans.

[PrettyT11]

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Brand wasn't creating turnovers? Yet since he's been out, the team has been giving up more points per game? You're seeing what you want to see. Brand was fine. I know people want to make him into C-Webb Pt. II. That's not the case here. He's their best defender.

Maybe since Iguodala and Williams got their heads out of their asses, when Brand comes back and has to pass out of the post, they will make a shot for once.

Wow so what does the teams PPG allowed have to do with Brand creating turnovers?? You act like there is a big difference in points allowed since he has been out. They gave up 94 with him and are giving up 97 without him. WOW THREE WHOLE POINTS. So where is all these turnovers he created if they only gave up three less points?? But lets not forget about the fact that they are playing faster and there are more possesions in the game meaning more shots for both teams. Come on man take off the 76ers love blinders and see what is really happening. The facts are the facts and the team is playing better without him. It was a bad signing from the start. You want to talk about turnovers Brand is turning it over more than he has in over 5 years and he is putting up career worst number all across the board except for rebounding. That is the only thing he has done well.

[J.R. Locke]

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Mo has had bad rotations since the moment he took over as coach. This is a new deal. It's been a problem with him since day one.

Okay. This is just a bit subjective.

A good coach would know how to do it. It wasn't a problem with Doc Rivers last year.

Doc rivers was panned as a bad coach for years. Elton Brand isn't kevin Garnett and Thad ain't Ray Allen.

Shav was never a starter here. Jason Smith wasn't a starter, either. Carney and Young got in by January because Stefanski took over in December and asked Mo to play the young guys. He traded Kyle Korver in order to make sure it got done.

Shav started some games I can guarantee that. Jason Smith was in the rotation last year from day one! He played in 76 games.

Nobody here expected the Sixers to be great. But at least be consistently like 5th in the East maybe. That's not a beast.

You're really showing that you are an outsider looking in and have no idea of what you are talking about.

I bow before you? I think the early struggles were from acclimating Elton Brand and the fact Louis Williams couldn't provide enough scoring punch off the bench. How that is Mo's problem I have no idea. But to say that Ed Stafanski made Mo play the rookies and then fired him for playing Elton Brand too much is a little weak.

We all know Ed Stefanski didn't want Mo as his coach. He just needed an excuse to fire him.