Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

[DC]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

since the game doesnt really mean anything, and mike hit the game winner and it was all part of a alluring moment, kobe shouldnt have tried to win the game.. although i tihnk jermaine oneal did foul him, so blame the refs or jermaine i guess.

kind of a ****ty situation to be in though overall, is till feel as though kob' tried to steal the shine a bit.

Ok

[Po Pimp]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

Lost in all of this is the fact that Bruce Bowen was a mere 10,000 votes from STARTING in the All Star Game!

I'm not one to say who or who SHOULDN'T be starting, but as far as making the team...I think despite his record, Durant should probably get in over Stoudemire or Carmelo. Stoudemire has really regressed due to Terry Porter's system. Nothing against Melo at all, but he simply didn't play enough games. KD is having a great season despites his team's lack of success. If you only looked at the numbers since he got moved to SF, he's averaging something like 26, 8 and 2, with a block and a steal. Al Jefferson is another player having a great year.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

No it shouldn't matter and it was almost comical for Rob Parker trying to make a case as to why Allen Iverson should be in it over Devin Harris. The only thing he could come up with was the fact that Detroit has 5 more wins than us while Jersey without Harris is probably where the Wizards are right now.

[billmatic]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

Record shouldn't matter. That's what the playoffs are for.

[fluent2332]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

why do people have to choose one side like it's the truth? how about certain circumstances determine certain results. ray allen should be in the all-star game, all season long he's been the best of the big 3 on arguably the best team in basketball. on the flip side, granger is putting up monster numbers on a bad team, but his numbers are ridiculous so he should be in too. record should matter and so should numbers, and your goal should be to create the best possible synthesis between the 2.

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Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

huh?!?... mike hit the shot with liek 2 seconds left to go in the game in OT.

the west got the ball back and kobe took a baseline jumper or drive (i forget...) in which jermaine oneal fouled him and sent kobe to line line hitting 2 free throws.. basically ending the game.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't even see MJ hit the game winning shot over Marion wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3et6qAsOxo

What they should've done is what Isaiah did for Magic and stopped the game

[J.R. Locke]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't even see MJ hit the game winning shot over Marion wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3et6qAsOxo

What they should've done is what Isaiah did for Magic and stopped the game

Lol did you see him miss and get his shot blocked by Shawn Marion the previous trips down the court?????

Come on the end to that game was like watching Nate Robinson miss 20 dunks then win the dunk contest.

MJ's line in that game 9-27.....HA HA HA

Go back and watch that whole game. MJ was old and washed up. Marion owned him except for that last shot. MJ's team lost.

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Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

Lol did you see him miss and get his shot blocked by Shawn Marion the previous trips down the court?????

Come on the end to that game was like watching Nate Robinson miss 20 dunks then win the dunk contest.

MJ's line in that game 9-27.....HA HA HA

Go back and watch that whole game. MJ was old and washed up. Marion owned him except for that last shot. MJ's team lost.

He hit the last shot though

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

Ok

ditto.

anyway,
I just take the ASG game and weekend for what its supposed to be man.....fun...not going to put myself above the game.

GP is nuts for saying TD should be there though

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

I think people are being a little naive when it comes to the All Star game. The game itself is just an exhibition, but being selected to the team means a lot to these players, their teams, and their contracts. The perception of an All Star player is quite different than that of a non All Star. Did you see how fired up GP was because he was unable to start all those years?

Pshaw to the idea that this means nothing. Look at the whole picture.


As far as the argument itself, I think the coaches should use all of the info...team records, stats, role on the team, etc--to try and get the best players in the All Star game. When you go with the "good player on a good team argument", it should be reserved for guys who are playing great ball, but sacrificing touches to win games. Roleplayers on good teams shouldn't be rewarded for playing next to good players, and great players on bad teams shouldn't be punished for playing next to scrubs.

[dossier]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

why do people have to choose one side like it's the truth? how about certain circumstances determine certain results. ray allen should be in the all-star game, all season long he's been the best of the big 3 on arguably the best team in basketball. on the flip side, granger is putting up monster numbers on a bad team, but his numbers are ridiculous so he should be in too. record should matter and so should numbers, and your goal should be to create the best possible synthesis between the 2.

The difficult thing with Ray Allen is there are soo many good guards that deserve the nod over him for their own individual performance.

No doubt he is playing great ball, but there are players who have to do more because they have less.

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

The problem comes when people make a factor, the factor. I think record should be one of the measuring sticks. It should not be the cut line.

[vaballer34]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

Wins and team records should not matter. Al Jefferson is the only player in the league averaging at least 22 points and 11 boards while Amare is averaging 21 and 8.

So because Amare's team (Nash, Shaq, J Rich, Hill, etc.) has more wins and a better record than Jefferson's team (Foye, Gomes, McCants, Mike Miller, etc.) that means Amare is more deserving to be an all-star over Jefferson...I don't see how that makes sense or is fair for players like Durant and Jefferson who are putting up all-star numbers.

[Kashanova]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't even see MJ hit the game winning shot over Marion wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3et6qAsOxo

What they should've done is what Isaiah did for Magic and stopped the game

yeah to bad for egos

[Po Pimp]

Re: Followup on GP/CWebb vs Kenny: Should Wins Matter When Picking All STars

This all started when Nash won his MVP trophies. They started looking solely at wins instead of combining all the factors as a way to justify giving Nash MVP over Kobe and Shaq.

Jeff Van Gundy just said he's rather have Verejao as his Center in the ASG instead of Bosh. All this reward the winners crap is pathetic. If that were the case, none of these "great players who never won a championship" would get recognition.

Nothing against Jameer Nelson, but Devin Harris deserves to be an All Star over him.

These analysts are even going so far as to say Kendrick Perkins deserves to be an all star. Simply Pathetic...